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Wed May 23, 2012, 09:06 PM

How about this? POLICE CHANGE SIDES!



How about this!
From Occupy Frankfurt. May 19, 2012.
The German police took off their helmets and marched with the protesters- clearing the way for them.

The police coming over to serve and protect the people... Blockupy Frankfurt. Police are escorting. Reports of an estimated 20,000+ protesters. Nice to see their faces.... and their humanity coming through...

WATCH THIS VIDEO: #blockupy. Frankfurt


German police officers escort an anti-capitalism protest march with some 20,000 people in Frankfurt, Germany, Saturday, May 19, 2012. Protesters peacefully filled the city center of continental Europe's biggest financial hub in their protest against the dominance of banks and what they perceive to be untamed capitalism, Frankfurt police spokesman Ruediger Regis said. The protest group calling itself Blockupy has called for blocking the access to the European Central Bank, which is located in Frankfurt's business district. (AP Photo/Michael Probst)

source: http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/world/20000+people+march+at+a+frankfurt+occupy+protest+german+police/6442644693/story.html

Photo/news source: http://www.660news.com/news/world/article/364434--german-police-says-some-10-000-are-marching-at-a-frankfurt-occupy-protest-rally

Associated Press Photo verified: http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/world/20000+people+march+at+a+frankfurt+occupy+protest+german+police/6442644693/story.html

(Photographer AP Photo/Michael Probst)

Wall Street journal Verified
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303360504577414370915099252.html

Washington Post verified
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/german-police-says-some-10000-are-marching-at-a-frankfurt-occupy-protest-rally/2012/05/19/gIQA3uTfaU_story.html

Nice to see the police give protesters a hand. I think I will plan on my next vacation to visit Germany. Such friendly people there!

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Reply How about this? POLICE CHANGE SIDES! (Original post)
James48 May 2012 OP
alittlelark May 2012 #1
BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #21
Amonester May 2012 #39
Baitball Blogger May 2012 #2
SnowCritter May 2012 #40
Zanzoobar May 2012 #3
fascisthunter May 2012 #5
Zanzoobar May 2012 #8
awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #6
pasto76 May 2012 #10
Zanzoobar May 2012 #14
fascisthunter May 2012 #18
Zanzoobar May 2012 #20
fascisthunter May 2012 #4
felix_numinous May 2012 #7
sakabatou May 2012 #12
freshwest May 2012 #17
metalbot May 2012 #49
freshwest May 2012 #52
Johnny Rico May 2012 #59
freshwest May 2012 #61
zeemike May 2012 #22
L0oniX May 2012 #44
jimlup May 2012 #9
freshwest May 2012 #62
reorg May 2012 #63
jannyk May 2012 #11
joanbarnes May 2012 #13
tuvor May 2012 #15
DFW May 2012 #19
reorg May 2012 #26
pacalo May 2012 #37
freshwest May 2012 #16
tralala May 2012 #23
DeSwiss May 2012 #24
reorg May 2012 #25
Jamaal510 May 2012 #27
upi402 May 2012 #28
reorg May 2012 #30
sabrina 1 May 2012 #29
reorg May 2012 #32
sabrina 1 May 2012 #36
reorg May 2012 #55
Sirveri May 2012 #31
Bozita May 2012 #33
jillan May 2012 #34
daaron May 2012 #35
freshwest May 2012 #46
Zalatix May 2012 #38
Soylent Brice May 2012 #41
treestar May 2012 #42
reorg May 2012 #60
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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:13 PM

1. Wow, that pic made me tear up a little.

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #1)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:08 PM

21. me too

How beautiful.....wow!!

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #1)

Thu May 24, 2012, 03:52 AM

39. Send it to PDs all over! eom

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:14 PM

2. I would think that Germany would understand the dangers of a police state, better

than any country.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Thu May 24, 2012, 08:44 AM

40. That was the first thing I thought, too.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:18 PM

3. They escorted them in combat gear.

 

Some of those guys look like cyborgs.

I wouldn't get all lathered up about police escorting protestors. You're likely to take a beating for it.

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Response to Zanzoobar (Reply #3)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:19 PM

5. hurts, doesn't it?

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #5)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:26 PM

8. What?

 

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Response to Zanzoobar (Reply #3)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:25 PM

6. especially the one in around the middle of the pic

grinning like a kid.

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Response to Zanzoobar (Reply #3)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:30 PM

10. yeah...nobody wears that stuff in combat

its riot gear plain and simple

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #10)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:39 PM

14. Or, riot gear.

 

My slip up.

Those German cops sure are nice people, though. All dressed up in their peaceful riot gear just escorting the gentle protestors exactly where they're suppose to go, and not one inch more.

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Response to Zanzoobar (Reply #14)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:55 PM

18. like our police force right

you are full of it

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #18)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:06 PM

20. The only difference I see in that picture is the shield.

 

You think the german cops didn't have them in the wings?

Are you serious? German cops pound more gently on protestors than American cops? That is your thrust?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=german%20police%20riot%20gear&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:18 PM

4. the Police there are Much different that what US Citizens experience here

I know....

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:26 PM

7. I am jealous

of Germany. Why can't our police do that?

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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #7)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:35 PM

12. Because they'd be fired, most likely

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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #7)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:52 PM

17. Rush and the rest of that garbage are banned in Europe. We must do the same here to win.

It's always garbage in, garbage out.

No one is immune to propaganda.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #17)

Thu May 24, 2012, 12:43 PM

49. We need to ban certain types of speech in order to win?

I'm not sure I consider that winning...

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Response to metalbot (Reply #49)

Thu May 24, 2012, 01:24 PM

52. Paid disinformation is freedom of speech for you? They don't allow pro-Nazi propaganda in Germany.

And the UK has libel laws that prevent the kind of swill we are regularly assaulted with here to divide and conquer in a false debate atmosphere set up by corporate owned media.

If you think the Citizens United decision was a good thing, and freedom of speech is protected by these Koch brothers paid shills , we will never agree.

Oh, and by the way, Fuck Ron Paul. That free enough for you?

N/T

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Response to freshwest (Reply #17)

Thu May 24, 2012, 04:49 PM

59. Darn that pesky 1st Amendment!

 

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Response to Johnny Rico (Reply #59)

Thu May 24, 2012, 05:44 PM

61. Yeah, it only matters when stochastic terrorists act on it. Shooting 9 year old girls is okay.

'Win' was not the best word to use, but that's what needs to be banned, the pigs who have actually called for the killing of others here in the USA. Because it does work, and it's real flesh and blood being hurt.

The Germans haven't been taught to hate each other based on different political opinions and are generally united because they know Reichwing talk when they hear it. And those I know who have listened to European media and American media know how destructive the corporate version of the First Amendment is.

Citizens United gave the regressives all they wanted and many states are fighting to 'ban' that interpretation. Do you support unlimited, secret, domestic and foreign funding of our media, do you see that as the purpose of the First, that commercial speech paid for by the Koch brothers is the same as others?

We don't have the Fairness Doctrine anymore to allow our opposing views to the corporate controlled MSM and Faux News with their divisive hate speech against women, gays, blacks, immigrants, liberals, progressives, Democrats, the poor, disabled and homeless. The Free Market version of the First Amendment has not provided us any way to defend ourselves from the deafening calls for our extermination.

That's what I meant, but the Rush, Beck and Paul supporters can twist my meanings however they want. I don't advocate killing like the Reichwingers hiding behind the First in this country have done for years and still do. Fuck 'em all.

If the American people want to hide and pretend people are not being harmed by the imbalance, which should be banned, they will join the legends who refuse to listen to history like the Germans have. Maybe what someone said earlier in this thread is right. We will have to try out being a full fascist nation, have another Civil War or see blood in the streets, to learn that intolerance and hate speech are not what the First was meant to foster and spread in our nation.

And I'm really a bit too pissed about the hateful speech I see being put out day after day to be calm and cool on this. So my apologies to all on this sub thread and I may delete it since I don't like to get this angry about anything. n/t




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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #7)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:09 PM

22. Because our cops love to beat up hippies.

It's a cultural thing ...encouraged by the leaders.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #22)

Thu May 24, 2012, 11:27 AM

44. +1

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:28 PM

9. This is ultimately how these movements succeed

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Response to jimlup (Reply #9)

Thu May 24, 2012, 05:46 PM

62. And it can happen when people know they are all in the same boat. That is it.

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Response to jimlup (Reply #9)

Thu May 24, 2012, 06:26 PM

63. would you care to explain what you mean by "this"?

Is falsely claiming that the police were "changing sides" a projection of hope?

Why does it even matter which side they're on if they still follow orders to nip a major mobilisation drive in the bud, as just happened in Frankfurt last week?

What are "these movements" supposed to do in order to win over the powers that be and what would you count as success?

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:34 PM

11. K&R

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:38 PM

13. I have been waiting for this to start happening.....

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:48 PM

15. Nice to see, but where does it say that the police "changed sides"?

All I can find is...

Police on Friday temporarily detained some 400 demonstrators during unauthorized Blockupy protests by thousands of activists after they erected barricades and staged sit-ins.

Some 5,000 police officers are assigned to keep the weekend protests in check.

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Response to tuvor (Reply #15)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:01 PM

19. A friend of mine is a retired German ex-cop. Guess what he's doing now?

He left the local police force in the town where I hang to join the German version of the FBI, the BKA. As a forensics and security expert, he was sent on some wild missions, such as beefing up security at the German embassy in Baghdad and identifying some of the remains at the scene of the Bali disco bombing (ugh!).

I had introduced him to some Israeli (ex-Mossad, & ex military) friends of mine who now do private security work around the world, and suddenly, though his friendship with them, now fully retired from government service, he is doing security work for the Jewish community in Germany, mostly Berlin, but also in some of the smaller communities.

Of his time as a cop, he says one of the most gratifying things to him is that he never had to draw his gun on anyone. He would not have done well in Texas or Arizona.

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Response to DFW (Reply #19)

Wed May 23, 2012, 11:19 PM

26. I'm glad that forensics experts don't have to draw their guns on anyone

But the police in general, especially when they're on the hunt for terrorists, do, and neither do they hesitate to shoot and kill. Had to open my trunk once during one such hunt, with the barrel of a machine gun pointing at me all the time. No reason given, totally out of the blue, on a highway. And they do make use of their batons, too. Beat me up good several times at demonstrations. I remember two demonstrations in Frankfurt where people were killed. They were not shot, they were run over by water guns. Also had the displeasure once to experience the sadistic excitement of the goons manning one such vehicle, something I won't be able to ever forget, believe me.

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Response to tuvor (Reply #15)

Thu May 24, 2012, 01:55 AM

37. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was puzzled about that.

And look at all the recommends this is getting -- we're starved for justice, but, unfortunately, that is just not what is happening here.


Sorry, guys.


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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 09:50 PM

16. Beautiful! Thanks, much needed to see this happening. Good for Germany!

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:12 PM

23. one people and one reich -- germany!

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:18 PM

24. This is going to happen more and more as the PEOPLE AWAKEN!



- And it is the 1%ers GREATEST FEAR!

K&R

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2012, 10:49 PM

25. Sorry to pee on your pudding but what you say is complete nonsense

Blockupy Frankfurt had been planned as a city-wide four-day event with an extensive program and many protest actions:

http://demonstrare.de/termine/16-19-05-action-days-blockupy-programm

organized by Attac, the Left Party, the teachers' union GEW and other groups.

ALL of these events were BANNED by the city government (CDU/Greens). The courts upheld the ban with one exception, the final protest march mentioned in the OP. Wednesday through Friday, subway and train stations adjacent to the banks were shut down and a large police presence all over the city prevented any spontaneous gatherings. 1400 people were arrested:

This beautiful and strong demonstration was the end of a very difficult series of action days. Thousands from all of Europe flocked to Frankfurt to take the squares and block the ECB and other major financial institutions. We were met with total repression. With the exception of the final demonstration, all of our countless planned rallies, demonstrations, assemblies, cultural and educational programs and festivities were banned by the city. We were denied the constitutional right to assemble. We were denied our democratic right to expression. We were denied space to sojourn in the city with the exception of autonomous student buildings, even the universities were shut down. Democracy was effectively prohibited. At the very least, we can ironically point to one consequence: if we were denied our protest, the police effectively blockaded the city for four days. The European capital of finance was shut down.

We called out to action days in Frankfurt against the austerity policies of the troika and governments. We called out to action and protest against the authoritarian politics implementing these policies. We were met with total repression by the German police. Over 1400* of us were taken into custody for attempting to assemble in the city.

http://17to19m.blogsport.eu/2012/05/20/a-brief-note-after-the-action-days/


If you understand German, watch the video in the OP where the mingling of the police with the marchers is denounced as provocation. The organizers invite the police to just get lost, buy some ice cream and have a nice day because, sorry, you'll get no violence from us today.

The unprecedented wide-ranging ban of peaceful activities throughout last week was based on the pretext that "some" violent groups "might" participate and, like a few weeks before during the M31 protests might spray some graffiti or smash a window or two. There was never a danger of actual violence taking place, at least not on the part of the protesters. However, if anyone had showed up in the same absurd Ninja gear as the "riot" police, they would have been immediately detained.

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Response to James48 (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2012, 12:04 AM

27. As an American, this made me very envious.

If only our police would be as supportive of occupy protestors and egalitarians. Instead, they engage in brutality and protect the same people who are responsible for inequality and dysfunctional democracy.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #27)

Thu May 24, 2012, 12:07 AM

28. if police supported us like we try to support them

but they drink the Kool Aid for the most part.

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