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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:17 AM Sep 2015

Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school



Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school: 'So you tried to make a bomb?

IRVING — Ahmed Mohamed — who makes his own radios and repairs his own go-kart — hoped to impress his teachers when he brought a homemade clock to MacArthur High on Monday.

Instead, the school phoned police about Ahmed’s circuit-stuffed pencil case.

So the 14-year-old missed the student council meeting and took a trip in handcuffs to juvenile detention. His clock now sits in an evidence room. Police say they may yet charge him with making a hoax bomb — though they acknowledge he told everyone who would listen that it’s a clock.

In the meantime, Ahmed’s been suspended, his father is upset and the Council on American-Islamic Relations is once again eyeing claims of Islamophobia in Irving.

...


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

And Florida lets out a sigh of relief as Texas actually takes the STUPID award for the day.
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Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school (Original Post) MohRokTah Sep 2015 OP
... Faux pas Sep 2015 #1
I'm half ass tempted to drive over to that school and smack a motherfucker snooper2 Sep 2015 #2
The cops are just as bad. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #3
Quote from article… Police say "it looks like a MOVIE bomb to me". KittyWampus Sep 2015 #4
How's this for stupid. MohRokTah Sep 2015 #5
This is such a colossal level of stupidity and racism it's jaw-dropping. KittyWampus Sep 2015 #7
Not necessarily. oneshooter Sep 2015 #8
I'm talking in terms of a "movie bomb". eom MohRokTah Sep 2015 #11
You don't put a damn LED counter on your bomb Recursion Sep 2015 #13
I can't believe this yeoman6987 Sep 2015 #28
Jeez, Irving TX is home of some seriously racist Islamophobes- KittyWampus Sep 2015 #6
#NerdingWhileMuslim Recursion Sep 2015 #9
The worst part is my first thought was... MohRokTah Sep 2015 #10
My God I know Recursion Sep 2015 #16
The kid's face is heartbreaking. Brickbat Sep 2015 #12
That's a NASA shirt. Recursion Sep 2015 #14
Yep. Brickbat Sep 2015 #15
NASA? TERizm! Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #45
Good thing they keep those kiddie-sized handcuffs around alcina Sep 2015 #20
Ugh, poor kid :( n/t prayin4rain Sep 2015 #22
Here's the letter the school sent home to families. Don't break the school code, kiddies! Brickbat Sep 2015 #17
So are they going to ban all clocks and wristwatches? csziggy Sep 2015 #29
He should skip Irving and go to UNT TAMS. Downwinder Sep 2015 #18
Kick. How is it that DU is mostly ignoring this story? HuckleB Sep 2015 #19
I'm K&Ring this one... n/t backscatter712 Sep 2015 #21
There is at least one other thread on this story csziggy Sep 2015 #30
Thanks! Good to know. HuckleB Sep 2015 #32
There are other pressing issues, of course kcr Sep 2015 #38
Many posts about it! nt Logical Sep 2015 #49
Yeah, it went through the roof after I made that post. HuckleB Sep 2015 #50
The "zero-tolerance" fanatics strike again... jonno99 Sep 2015 #23
I just...I can't even... NuclearDem Sep 2015 #24
Press conference from Irving now. 7wo7rees Sep 2015 #25
I would hope they get their asses sued MohRokTah Sep 2015 #26
They may consider it closed Recursion Sep 2015 #31
Which must explain the expre$$ion "abundance." Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #48
Oh my gawd its ISIS!!!1one!! Oneironaut Sep 2015 #27
Facebook links to the school and district. HuckleB Sep 2015 #33
Those pages are getting hit uppityperson Sep 2015 #35
Geek Dad: We Stand With Ahmed – An Open Letter to Ahmed Mohamed HuckleB Sep 2015 #34
A fine example of white privilege Glassunion Sep 2015 #36
I can just imagine........ odd_duck Sep 2015 #37
This is why Radio Shack has gone belly up bigbrother05 Sep 2015 #39
I stand with Ahmed dumbcat Sep 2015 #40
I was bringing Estes rockets, motors, and ignitors to school at that age. hunter Sep 2015 #41
Looks like "When Worlds Collide" (1951) Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #51
Response from Obama: Salviati Sep 2015 #42
The mayor of Irving is a Trump fan. Rex Sep 2015 #43
And once again: Zero-Tolerance, brought to you by the WOD© Eleanors38 Sep 2015 #44
The police reported that Ahmed would not say what his clock was for. L. Coyote Sep 2015 #46
"An Arab-looking man of Syrian descent in a garage w/his accomplice..." cyberswede Sep 2015 #47
I don't do well in situations like that. Taitertots Sep 2015 #52
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. The cops are just as bad.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:24 AM
Sep 2015

They say they may still charge the kid with making a "hoax bomb". The only "hoax bomb" bit in the entire incident was in the minds of stupid teachers, a stupid principal, and stupid cops.

Engineering while Muslim, the newest crime for minorities.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
4. Quote from article… Police say "it looks like a MOVIE bomb to me".
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:27 AM
Sep 2015

“They were like, ‘So you tried to make a bomb?’” Ahmed said.

“I told them no, I was trying to make a clock.”

“He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’”

I sincerely hope this talented young engineer sues the school and gets enough to cover his higher education right up through graduate school.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. This is such a colossal level of stupidity and racism it's jaw-dropping.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:39 AM
Sep 2015

I wish someone at MIT would see this and invite this young engineer to come and visit them.

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
8. Not necessarily.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:47 AM
Sep 2015

If a bomb is set to go off after a preset time ( seconds, minutes, hours) then it "counts down" If it is to detonate at a predetermined time, sometimes hours, or even days the clock counts "up".

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. You don't put a damn LED counter on your bomb
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 10:16 AM
Sep 2015

Hi! Iraq vet and electrical engineer here. Bombs don't have clocks. Ever. Never had. Some bombs have timers, but the last thing you ever want to do is give people an idea of when a terror device is going to explode. Takes the terror right out of it.

The cops knew this too (probably also Iraq vets), which is I assume why you have the hyper-specific phrase "a movie bomb". Because it's only in movies that bombs have clocks. Literally all bombs made today either explode on disturbance or by signal. Again, the cops know that (many of them had the same IED classes I did).

I'm sorry that Irving taxpayers are going to have to pay for this settlement.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. I can't believe this
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:15 PM
Sep 2015

The teacher must have other incidences that caused the teacher to go to full emergency on this. Or is the teacher just racist? Unbelievable!

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. Jeez, Irving TX is home of some seriously racist Islamophobes-
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:37 AM
Sep 2015

‘Invent good things’

“He just wants to invent good things for mankind,” said Ahmed’s father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, who immigrated from Sudan and occasionally returns there to run for president. “But because his name is Mohamed and because of Sept. 11, I think my son got mistreated.”

Mohamed is familiar with anti-Islamic politics. He once made national headlines for debating a Florida pastor who burned a Quran.

But he wasn’t paying much attention this summer when Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne became a national celebrity in anti-Islamic circles, fueling rumors in speeches that the religious minority was plotting to usurp American laws.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. #NerdingWhileMuslim
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:48 AM
Sep 2015

I feel confident that I speak for the entire Maker community when I scream in incoherent rage right now.

Keep Making, kid.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
10. The worst part is my first thought was...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 09:52 AM
Sep 2015

"I'm glad the cops didn't just blow him away on the spot."

Because, they might have done so given today's police actions.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
16. My God I know
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:17 AM
Sep 2015

I keep coming back to: what's the loss to the US GDP if this kid stops inventing? My guess is that it would be huge.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. That's a NASA shirt.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:16 AM
Sep 2015

I've contracted for NASA. I can say with certainty that NASA employees are absolutely furious right now. A kid who can do a digital clock at 14 is exactly who they want at NASA, particularly at JPL. I feel bad for Irving taxpayers.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
29. So are they going to ban all clocks and wristwatches?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:17 PM
Sep 2015

How about all cell phones, tablets and computers since in movies all of those devices have been used to set off bombs or for other nefarious purposes? I can remember older movies where wind up alarm clocks were used to set off bombs! You don't need a circuit board and an LED display to blow shit up.

No wonder we are training too few engineers and technical people in this country. Too many of our supposed educators are afraid of technology or anything they don't understand!

If a white kid had brought the same device to school, I bet he would have been lauded for his ingenuity. But a non-white kid is dragged out of school in handcuffs. I'm glad his father is making a stink about this.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
38. There are other pressing issues, of course
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:40 PM
Sep 2015

Like, the person who wants to ban sex robots. That is an outrage that simply cannot be ignored. Multiple threads going on about that one.

jonno99

(2,620 posts)
23. The "zero-tolerance" fanatics strike again...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:02 PM
Sep 2015

The above idiocy is in line with the stories about the school kids taking a few bites out of their food in such a way as to form the shape of a gun - and then getting suspended for pointing their "gun" in a threatening manner (and saying "bang" I guess...&quot .

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
25. Press conference from Irving now.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:07 PM
Sep 2015

No charges. Police chief meeting this afternoon with boy' father. Spokeswoman form school district offensive, no apologies. Very defensive. Both kept repeating "abundance of caution". They are considering case closed.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
26. I would hope they get their asses sued
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:11 PM
Sep 2015

But any jury is bound to have at least one idiot who won't see past the kid's name.

Oneironaut

(5,493 posts)
27. Oh my gawd its ISIS!!!1one!!
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:12 PM
Sep 2015

This country is just plain dumb. How do these people live being afraid of their own shadows every day?

This is truly embarrassing.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
35. Those pages are getting hit
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:44 PM
Sep 2015
You have 9 minutes and 11 seconds to release Ahmed Mohamed, or else this handmade clock is totally going to create another overly sensationalized national tragedy that totally isn't warranting abhorrible amounts of bigotry and pathetic levels of fear. Don't worry, the FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation won't be able to stop me, either, muahahahah!
‪#?IStandWithAhmed‬


This has a really poorly done drawing of a wall clock after it. Can't get it to link.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
36. A fine example of white privilege
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:49 PM
Sep 2015

If your 14 and make a clock... and your skin is the wrong color... You get arrested.

If your 13 and make a fusion reactor... In school... And your the correct color... You get an award and a grant from the school.

odd_duck

(107 posts)
37. I can just imagine........
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:29 PM
Sep 2015

the fox “news” headline tonight, as this story is going viral; “Young Jihadist in the making, tests schools security with fake bomb: Progressives/Liberal media defend him”…………………………

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
39. This is why Radio Shack has gone belly up
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:01 PM
Sep 2015

If you actually try to make something useful, some knuckle head will overreact. Buying a kit online will bring the FBI/NSA/CIA knocking at your door (or worse).

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
40. I stand with Ahmed
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:06 PM
Sep 2015

As a long time former engineering mentor for our local high school's FIRST Robotics program, I'll tell you that this kid is exactly the type of young person I wanted to see enter our club.

I remember a young AA kid joining the Robotics Club as a shy freshman tech nerd. But he was really smart, quick, and had a photographic memory. Over the four years we watched him grow, gain confidence, and get even smarter. He could grasp advanced concepts faster than anyone I have ever known. As a senior he was kind of reluctantly the acknowledged leader of the club and the faculty advisor and I were relegated to cleaning up the shop. When we asked the other kids why they accepted Allen's leadership and direction they said, "Because he is always right." They called him Brainiac.

He graduated as valedictorian of his large high school class, went to Rice on a full NSA scholarship and graduated Summa Cum Laude with a degree in Computer Science specializing in Artificial Intelligence, spent a few years in the AmeriCorps VISTA program, and now does stuff I can't know about. But he still sponsors and mentors several FIRST Robotics high school teams. The kid is easily the most intelligent person I have ever known.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
41. I was bringing Estes rockets, motors, and ignitors to school at that age.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:19 PM
Sep 2015

You know, things that can actually catch fire.

And a pocket knife. We played with X-acto knives too.

Our school had a rocket club. Sadly all white, and all male.

Outside the supervision of adults, our favorite dangerous homemade toys, not approved by any authority, were rocket powered pinewood derby cars. They could actually fly like Evil Kenievel.

I notice people now make Youtube videos of stunts like that.



Bringing an electronic clock to school gets a kid handcuffed???

:WTF:


Salviati

(6,008 posts)
42. Response from Obama:
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:18 PM
Sep 2015
President Obama
?@POTUS
Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great.


https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656

I hope that forestalls any "Well we've got to charge him with _something_" bullshit from the local PD that fucked this up.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
46. The police reported that Ahmed would not say what his clock was for.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015

Ahmed was probably thinking, "How am I going to explain time to these nitwits."

?1442428131

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
47. "An Arab-looking man of Syrian descent in a garage w/his accomplice..."
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:33 PM
Sep 2015
https://twitter.com/omarghabra/status/644210841580015616

Omar Ghabra ?@omarghabra 1h1 hour ago Seattle, WA

An Arab-looking man of Syrian descent in a garage w/his accomplice building what appears to be a bomb. Arrest them.



 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
52. I don't do well in situations like that.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:41 PM
Sep 2015

I'd just non-stop rip on the teacher/principal/police for being morons.

I just can't help being a smart ass when dealing with obvious dumbasses. The broader explanation would be just hilarious. The more upset people get, the worse I get.

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