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This video clip is very instructive about some points that people may not utilize.
http://ahsc.arizona.edu/node/730
More Information: Katie Maass, (520) 626-4083, [email protected]
Sarver Heart Centers newest video makes it easy to learn Continuous Chest Compression CPR.
Every three days, more Americans die from sudden cardiac arrest than the number who died in the 9-11 attacks.
You can lessen this recurring loss by learning this hands-only CPR method that doubles a persons chance of surviving cardiac arrest.
Watch physician researchers Gordon A. Ewy, MD, and Karl Kern, MD, demonstrate the easy, life-saving method that they developed at the University of Arizona College of Medicine.
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If this isn't new to you, then I'm glad you already know about it.
I didn't think it would hurt to post this as new info or as a reminder.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But I did save a nun's life once when I used the Heimlich maneuver on her when she was choking on food.
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)At the end, there is some important info about liability. Also, that this is not appropriate for young ones or drowning victims, so don't quit watching half-way through and think you know it all.
Thank you for posting this. I'm going to have my entire family watch it.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Maybe if you have 2 people available, someone can still attempt to put more oxygen into the fallen person's lungs.
66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)Key points I learned:
[1] Lock your elbows
[2] 100 strokes per minute (Same beat as the Bee Gees' "Staying Alive")
[3] NOT for Infants, Small Children or Drowning victims - use the older mouth and compression method
qb
(5,924 posts)Each time they have improved the method in some way.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...a text description of this CPR method. I think I already know it, but not sure. (Recently took a CPR course.) (Basically, forget about mouth-to-mouth; concentrate entirely on the chest compressions.) (--after you've determined that there is nothing blocking the throat).
One thing that impressed me in the CPR class (new to me) is that chest compressions are NOT aimed primarily at re-starting the heart but rather at keeping the BRAIN alive with oxygen until expert help arrives.
Apparently, some people abandon the chest compressions if they can't get a pulse. Since chest compressions are hard to do and exhausting, it's tempting to give it up, if it doesn't seem to be working. But the point is to save the brain from permanent damage by getting whatever oxygen the patient has TO the brain in those critical minutes before first responders arrive.
If there is a defib machine available, of course, use it, but these new defib machines (which guide you through the process) are not available everywhere (might be in big public spaces--shopping malls, airports, etc.) and you may well have no machine around, in dealing with this kind of situation. The point is NOT to revive the person by your efforts; the point is to save the brain!
Keep up the chest compressions--and, if possible, get others to aid you in doing this--until first responders arrive--no matter what you think of the status of the patient. (Within reason, of course. Right now, I can't remember the number of minutes to brain damage. Somebody help me here. It's under ten minutes, as I recall. But, if I could, I would keep up chest compressions as long as humanly possible until experts arrived.)
One other thing that was new to me: Don't just yell "Call 9/11!" to a crowd of people. Look at a specific person and tell that person to call 9/11. And tell another specific person to go look for a defib machine on the wall (if you are in a place likely to have one). People in a crowd may assume (and apparently often assume) that someone else is calling 9/11. Make eye contact; fix responsibility.
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To any medical or emergency professionals in this thread: Please feel free to correct anything I've said that is wrong. I am NOT an expert. And, one question I have, is: If you use a defib machine and that does not re-start the heart, do you keep doing compressions anyway? I would think so, but I'm not sure. And what is your "rule of thumb" for how long to keep up the chest compressions (for instance, if first responders are delayed--or, say in a natural disaster, can't reach you?).
Are_grits_groceries
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In witnessed unexpected collapse in an adult (usually the result of cardiac arrest) studies have shown chest compression only without mouth-to-mouth breathing by bystanders is the preferred approach.* Follow these instructions to perform Continuous Chest Compression (CCC) resuscitation:
Shake the person and shout, Are you OK? If the person is unresponsive and not breathing, or breathing abnormally (struggling to breathe, gasping or snoring), direct someone to call 9-1-1 or make the call yourself.
Position the victim on the floor on his or her back. Place the heel of one hand on top of the other and place the heel of the bottom hand on the center of the victims chest (usually between the nipples). Lock your elbows and begin forceful chest compressions at a rate of 100 per minute. After each chest compression make sure you lift the heel of the hand completely off of the chest.
If an AED (heart with lightening flash symbol) is available, turn the unit on and follow the voice instructions. If no AED (automated external defibrillator) is available, perform continuous chest compressions until the paramedics arrive. Continuous chest compressions is physically tiring so if someone else is available, take turns changing partners after each 100 chest compressions.
*In suspected drowning or drug overdose, follow standard CPR procedures (alternate 30 chest compressions with two mouth-to-mouth breaths)
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http://www.heart.arizona.edu/publiced/lifesaver.htm
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)When I was about 15 years old and traveling with my parents in Portugal, a man right in front of me in the airport waiting room suddenly fell over. His family sent for medical assistance but it took several minutes to arrive and meantime, everyone was just standing around. It didn't look like he made it.
Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)rustydog
(9,186 posts)The joke instructors use is the song "Another one bites the dust" works too, but you don't want to be humming that one when people are watching.