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Mass

(27,315 posts)
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 11:43 AM Sep 2015

Donald Trump's appeal : racism

People are baffled by Trump's appeal. Sadly, these numbers given by PPP tell us the true nature of the appeal : racism.

In a poll where 40% of Republicans believe Obama was NOT born in the USA, Trump's supporters are even more birthers than the average Republican. They are also more in favor of getting rid of birthright citizenship, and that immigrants children should be deported.


Our new poll finds that Trump is benefiting from a GOP electorate that thinks Barack Obama is a Muslim and was born in another country, and that immigrant children should be deported. 66% of Trump's supporters believe that Obama is a Muslim to just 12% that grant he's a Christian. 61% think Obama was not born in the United States to only 21% who accept that he was. And 63% want to amend the Constitution to eliminate birthright citizenship, to only 20% who want to keep things the way they are.

Trump's beliefs represent the consensus among the GOP electorate. 51% overall want to eliminate birthright citizenship. 54% think President Obama is a Muslim. And only 29% grant that President Obama was born in the United States. That's less than the 40% who think Canadian born Ted Cruz was born in the United States.


By contrast, less crazy candidates like Kasich, Bush, or Chris Christie attract those who believe the opposite.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/08/trump-supporters-think-obama-is-a-muslim-born-in-another-country.html

Only among supporters of John Kasich (58/13), Jeb Bush (56/18), Chris Christie (59/33), and Marco Rubio (42/30) are there more people who think President Obama was born in the United States than that he wasn't. And when you look at whose supporters are more inclined to think that the President is a Christian than a Muslim the list shrinks to just Christie (55/29), Kasich (41/22), and Bush (29/22). Bush's inability to appeal to the kind of people who hold these beliefs is what's keeping him from succeeding in the race- his overall favorability is 39/42, and with voters identifying themselves as 'very conservative' it's all the way down at 33/48.


This is quite frightening. I have no sympathy for any of those who are in the list, but this poll makes clear what is Trump's main attraction.
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Mass

(27,315 posts)
1. It is a strange time and a strange party where the fact somebody does not attract racists is seen as
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 12:08 PM
Sep 2015

a liability.


Bush's inability to appeal to the kind of people who hold these beliefs is what's keeping him from succeeding in the race- his overall favorability is 39/42, and with voters identifying themselves as 'very conservative' it's all the way down at 33/48


You would think it is the inability of the party to attract people who do not hold this belief that is the problem!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
2. The candidate of walls and tariffs should use this: “Diversity is a code word for white genocide."
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 01:48 PM
Sep 2015
White Supremacist Convicted of Killing 3 at Kansas Jewish Centers

A white supremacist was convicted of capital murder on Monday in the shooting deaths of three people a year ago at a Jewish community center and an assisted living facility in suburban Kansas City.

Mr. Miller admitted to the shootings in court but said he had acted in defense of the white race. He represented himself, and Judge Thomas Kelly Ryan of Johnson County District Court repeatedly reprimanded him for racist and anti-Semitic rants.

“Everything I did for our people, to secure the existence of our people and the future of white children,” he told the jurors, all of whom appeared to be white. Later, he urged the jurors to do their part in his crusade by acquitting him of all charges. “You can inspire tens of millions of our people and give them hope for the future,” he said.

Mr. Miller objected, saying he had said he wanted “to kill Jews, not to kill people.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/us/white-supremacist-convicted-of-killing-3-at-kansas-jewish-centers.html?_r=0

This killer seems to have been mainly anti-Semitic, one hatred Trump has not evidenced yet, but the Donald could use this man's slogan and apply it to Hispanics and Asians.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
4. Not as strongly as the other ones, but it was reported that he was leaning there too.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sep 2015
http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/08/trump-kept-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-says-only-short-jews-can-count-his-money-not-black/

Trump’s fascination with Hitler is just one form of his racist actions. In 1991, John O’Donnell, a former Trump associate, wrote an exposé entitled Trumped! The Inside Story of the Real Donald Trump. During O’Donnell’s tenure as president of the Trump Plaza Hotel, Trump told him that he hates “black guys counting my money!” He added that “the only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” To Trump, “laziness is a trait in blacks.” Several years later, Trump didn’t bother to deny it: “The stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. Much like Reagan back in the 1980$.
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:08 PM
Sep 2015

He played the hatred of white 'Murica like a cheap Atari by invoking a stereotype that turned into a fact among Republicans.

Welfare queen" was a term out of many other dumb terms coined by Saint Reagan, this time to refer to people who scam the government through the welfare system to live easy on taxpayer money without trying to work. Reagan gave a very memorable speech in 1976 which described a welfare queen drawing an easy living by scamming veteran's and Social Security benefits from four (fake) dead husbands, as well as using eighty different aliases. The closest case to the one he described was of a single woman who scammed the government out of $8,000,[1] and who, upon further investigation, wasn't emblematic of welfare users in general. [2] Whoops. (Also, welfare fraud was probably the least evil crime she committed, also being suspected of kidnapping and murder.)

Today, "welfare queen" has evolved into a more general version of dog whistle politics against the new evil of "entitlements."

It plays very well into pitting people of different classes and races against each other. Race resentments very much factor into this, since only certain kinds of people (disadvantaged minorities) are portrayed living on welfare.[3] Many opponents of welfare use the welfare queen stereotype as a way to rile up members of the lower middle class and working poor against those on welfare/unemployment/Social Security/Medicaid benefits. This is by making wild claims that welfare queens are living "high on the hog" while the poor folks have to work hard to barely scrape by.[4]



AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
6. The GOP candidate who will use racial slurs against all non-caucasion people will fly to the top of
Tue Sep 1, 2015, 02:09 PM
Sep 2015

the GOP polls.

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