Man, 31, fatally shot while teaching 24-year-old girlfriend to shoot a rifle

[SecularMotion]

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A woman fatally shot her boyfriend by accident while he was teaching her to use a rifle, police in Florida have said.

The shooting happened early Thursday in their Daytona Beach Shores apartment.

The Daytona Beach Shores Police Department said in a news release: 'Robert F. Branton, 31, was shot in his apartment by his live-in girlfriend, Katie L. Begtrup, 24.'

According to Daytona Beach Shores police, Begtrup called 911 around 12:30 a.m. and told the dispatcher she unintentionally shot her boyfriend in the leg.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3204747/Man-fatally-shot-teaching-girlfriend-shoot-rifle.html

[question everything]

1. How can you die from a leg wound?

Unless she hit a major artery and he bled to death? No one knows about tourniquets?

[Xipe Totec]

3. Femoral artery. Groin shot. No way to apply tourniquet nt

[sir pball]

8. Even if it were possible, there may jusy not have been time.

IIRC from first aid class a fully severed femoral artery gives you three minutes, not a lot of time for somebody undoubtedly shocked and panicking.

This is why I shake my head when people talk about "shooting him in the leg, to wound" - it can be a quicker death sentence than a torso wound.

[dixiegrrrrl]

13. like this: Milwaukee man dies after accidentally shooting himself in leg

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027103300

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. He was 'teaching her to shoot' in his apartment?

Another 'responsible gun owner'.

[Pool Hall Ace]

9. and at 12:30 in the morning, no less.

Sure.

[bluedigger]

4. You don't usually teach rifle shooting in your apartment.

[lpbk2713]

5. I have to wonder ...

Was the phrase "hold my beer while I ... " used just before the fatal round was fired?

[Electric Monk]

6. It seems like he wasn't a very good teacher, at all.

1st Commandment of Firearm Safety - Always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

http://www.wikihow.com/Handle-a-Firearm-Safely

[KG]

7. the daily 'responsible gun owner' story!

[alphafemale]

10. So she says.

Very convenient perhaps.

I'd certainly push for an investigation.

[Journeyman]

11. Well, the good that may come of this, is Katie Begtrup will possibly never handle a weapon again...

If it all went down as she says, for her peace of mind I hope she eventually comes to realize how small the role she played in her friend's death actually was.

[Lee-Lee]

12. Yeah, they need to look hard at this case

It's not impossible to see it going down as stated- but given the location and time is awfully suspicious...

[alphafemale]

18. I would investigate as homicide.

Especially as it was a shot to the groin.

This is very likely murder and not an accident.

[TexasProgresive]

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[TexasProgresive]

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[Duckhunter935]

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[krispos42]

19. I could go either way on this.

It's sort of "weird news"-ish, but it's definitely not political or a crime.

[hunter]

15. Guns. Shit happens.

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[PowerToThePeople]

21. Ban all guns. n/t

[WinkyDink]

22. A microcosmic "The victor writes the history." ;-)

[DonViejo]

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