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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:46 PM Aug 2015

UPDATE: Rosie O'Donnell Says Her 17-Year-Old Daughter, Chelsea, FOUND.

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UPDATE:

Rosie O'Donnell Says Daughter Chelsea Has Been Found

Rosie O'Donnell's 17-year-old daughter Chelsea has been found, she announced on Twitter on Tuesday evening, hours after announcing that she was missing.

"Chelsea has been found and is safe in police custody -- thank u all for the help and light #missingchildren," she wrote late Tuesday.

O'Donnell's rep also told ABC News that “Rosie wants to thank everyone for their help, especially the South Nyack, N.Y., and Barnegat Light, N.J., police departments."

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/rosie-odonnell-daughter-chelsea-found/story?id=33158499



Rosie O'Donnell said Tuesday that her 17-year-old daughter is missing.

Chelsea O'Donnell was last seen a week ago, the TV personality said in a post to her website. She said the girl "stopped taking her medicine and is in need of medical attention," and was last seen with her therapy dog.

Police were looking for Chelsea O'Donnell in the New York suburbs. Rosie O'Donnell has a home in Nyack, police there said.

"Chelsea, like millions of people, lives with mental illness," said Cindi Berger, a spokeswoman for Rosie O'Donnell. "It has been a difficult road for Chelsea and her family and they just want her back safe."

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Anyone with information on the girl's whereabouts was asked to call 845-358-0206

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rosie-odonnell-says-her-17-year-old-daughter-chelsea-missing-n411846


Hopefully she'll be found soon now that the word is getting out.
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UPDATE: Rosie O'Donnell Says Her 17-Year-Old Daughter, Chelsea, FOUND. (Original Post) herding cats Aug 2015 OP
Oh, I hope she's found safe. n/t TDale313 Aug 2015 #1
Rosie must be desperate to bring the media into this. herding cats Aug 2015 #3
Yeah, I think you're probably right. TDale313 Aug 2015 #4
If Trumper were even half human... CincyDem Aug 2015 #2
He might yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #7
Trump's downfall will commence at his next presser. lpbk2713 Aug 2015 #5
Here's another picture with a different look. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #6
Curious as to what is her illness? cwydro Aug 2015 #8
All that was reported was "undisclosed mental illness." herding cats Aug 2015 #12
Right, it's personal until one needs the public help seveneyes Aug 2015 #25
The daughter did not bring it out into the public. herding cats Aug 2015 #29
Right, just like all we without millions and fame get without a question seveneyes Aug 2015 #32
when you say 'this kind' maybe you just mean Bluenorthwest Aug 2015 #52
The daughter is turning 18 on August 24. (eom) StevieM Aug 2015 #55
Her biological mother was a junkie. Xithras Aug 2015 #14
Oh, bless her heart. Ilsa Aug 2015 #18
Maybe the breast milk and love of her natural mother would have been beneficial to Chelsea. StevieM Aug 2015 #33
That's not always possible. Ilsa Aug 2015 #36
Rosie didn't take on a hard job--she stole another woman's baby. StevieM Aug 2015 #39
Is there a system? Yes. Was it working? Ilsa Aug 2015 #50
So Rosie and the adoption agency get to unilaterally declare by fiat that the system StevieM Aug 2015 #53
Leaving a baby with a junkie and her family often isn't "help". n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #37
We don't know the extent of her drug problem, only that she could not truly grant consent StevieM Aug 2015 #40
I'm a good mom, honest! Except that one time I got so wasted I gave baby up for adoption. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #41
A wasted woman does not consent to an adoption, because a woman under the influence StevieM Aug 2015 #42
A woman under the influence CANNOT RAISE A CHILD tkmorris Aug 2015 #44
Kayla's REAL mom was not under the influence all the time. And if she was unfit to raise a child StevieM Aug 2015 #46
Right. Baby should not be taken away until and unless mom sobers up enough to understand. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #45
If there was a problem with sobriety the courts could have intervened. They never even came close StevieM Aug 2015 #47
Please share your information on the biological mother tazkcmo Aug 2015 #51
There is no evidence that Kayla (Chelsea) was a FAS baby. And yes, Rosie adopted her children StevieM Aug 2015 #54
You just contradicted yourself in your own link. Xithras Aug 2015 #56
First of all, anyone with a criminal record can technically be said to be "in and out of jail." StevieM Aug 2015 #57
I agree with Chelsea's REAL mother. If she signed papers while under the influence of drugs, StevieM Aug 2015 #30
Sorry, not buying it. Atman Aug 2015 #9
she has an illness and Rosie said she hasn't been taking JI7 Aug 2015 #10
I would imagine that she had the credit card company look into this dsc Aug 2015 #11
They think she may have gone looking for her birth mother who she located last year... bettyellen Aug 2015 #13
I hope that she has reunited with her natural mother. Bonding with her would be good for Chelsea IMO StevieM Aug 2015 #27
I'm not sure I'd want to bond with a Mom who sells her dirty laundry to the National Enquirer.... bettyellen Aug 2015 #31
Why don't we let Chelsea decide that? I am betting that Rosie isn't so willing to let Chelsea make StevieM Aug 2015 #34
"We" aren't actually doing anything, LOL, except expressing opinions. bettyellen Aug 2015 #35
Sad to say, cwydro Aug 2015 #15
Geez...you people! RichGirl Aug 2015 #21
Yeah, and we can all reach out for help like Rosie can and just did seveneyes Aug 2015 #26
Kayla (Chelsea) is definitely long overdue for a reunion with her mom--her REAL mom. (eom) StevieM Aug 2015 #43
She's been found vankuria Aug 2015 #16
Thank you! herding cats Aug 2015 #17
Klaxon for them but not for we seveneyes Aug 2015 #28
FOUND SAFE! DesertRat Aug 2015 #19
Yes shenmue Aug 2015 #23
glad she's safe Liberal_in_LA Aug 2015 #20
Thank goodness she's been found shenmue Aug 2015 #22
I guess we'll never know what these lives of privilege have going on seveneyes Aug 2015 #24
Thank goodness! Aerows Aug 2015 #38
Hopefully she gets reunited with her blood relatives and her loving natural mother who StevieM Aug 2015 #48
She will be 18 on August 24--and hopefully back in Wisconsin with her rightful family. (eom) StevieM Aug 2015 #49

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
3. Rosie must be desperate to bring the media into this.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

She knows they're going to pick apart this incident with a fine-toothed comb, and give fodder to those who hate her out there. She must be out of her mind with worry to take this to the public like she has. I doubt she'd even consider it unless all the known possibilities were already checked and rechecked.

I hope her daughter is found safe and soon.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. Yeah, I think you're probably right.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:29 PM
Aug 2015

There will be plenty who will try and use this against Rosie and those working for equality. Hopefully involving the media will help find Chelsea.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
2. If Trumper were even half human...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:02 PM
Aug 2015


...this is where he would stand up and use his public microphone to say "Rosie and I have had our differences but family is family and my hope is that she and her daughter will be quickly and safely reunited. Anyone who has information about her whereabouts should take a moment and contact the Nyack police".

That's what a leader would do. That's what someone even half human would do.

Of course for Trumper - that's off in the 9th dimension and the chances of this happening are a little lower than me whooping LeBron in a game of half court one-on-one. Ain't gonna happen.
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. He might
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:29 PM
Aug 2015

He did wish her well after her heart attack. Although running for president now, who knows.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
5. Trump's downfall will commence at his next presser.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:43 PM
Aug 2015



He will gloat how he has nothing to explain or apologize for in the remarks he made about Rosie. It will be all downhill from there. He is too much of a lowfife even for the radical RWnuts.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
8. Curious as to what is her illness?
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:35 PM
Aug 2015

Is this an emotional therapy dog...? Is she developmentally disabled? What?

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
12. All that was reported was "undisclosed mental illness."
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:54 PM
Aug 2015

That's a personal matter and I hope her daughter doesn't suffer media attacks for just that being said.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
29. The daughter did not bring it out into the public.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:16 PM
Aug 2015

Her mother did because she was worried about her. I can respect the daughter's privacy and the mother's concern for her daughter both at the same time. In other words, the details of the daughter's illness are hers to keep until, and if, she should chose to discuss them in public.

Now we should just be glad she is fine and wasn't in harms way.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
32. Right, just like all we without millions and fame get without a question
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:21 PM
Aug 2015

Pardon my candor, but this kind of celebrity shit just ain't right.

If I needed you ...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
52. when you say 'this kind' maybe you just mean
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:18 AM
Aug 2015

Rosie's kind, which is my kind, because you instantly post a video of a famous person, but a white male straight famous person, the kind you approve of apparently.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
14. Her biological mother was a junkie.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:15 PM
Aug 2015

There was a flap not all that long ago when the bio-mother accused O'Donnell of "stealing" her baby, because she was an addict and therefore unable to understand the implications of giving her kid away (BS IMHO). Back when that was in the press, there was a suggestion that the daughter may have some issues stemming from her biological mothers drug use during the pregnancy.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. Oh, bless her heart.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015

It's tough to be born with biological stuff stacked against you when it likely could be avoided.

I appreciate that Rosie is willing to take on these tough cases and just help and love those kids.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
33. Maybe the breast milk and love of her natural mother would have been beneficial to Chelsea.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:21 PM
Aug 2015

We don't know that she was born with challenges stemming from her mother's drug use.

And I don't think Rosie "took on a tough case"--she took another woman's child so that she could enjoy the parenting experience.

If she wanted to "help" she could have helped to keep children with their blood relatives and natural mothers.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. That's not always possible.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 10:31 PM
Aug 2015

If the mother can't manage her addiction then she may not be able to care for a baby, either. Do we know what shape this woman was in and if she was capable of parenting? And mothers can't breastfeed with certain drugs in their system, especially if a child is premature or has other high-risk issues at birth.

I've witnessed the neglect of a drug-addicted mother to two children, one of which nearly died in a hot car, was taken to drug buys, and the other from complications of her mother's drug use while pregnant. She neglected her kids, abdicated her responsibilities to others to "do her thing" and refused treatment over and over, including while pregnant and afterwards.

I'm not going to smear someone who takes on the hard job of parenting someone else's child when they give up that child.

And BTW, I've never been a big fan of Rosie.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
39. Rosie didn't take on a hard job--she stole another woman's baby.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:30 PM
Aug 2015

And just because you can coerce or trick a woman into signing something, that doesn't mean that she gave her child up. A lot of birth parents never intended to give their children up, and that certainly includes the REAL mother of Rosie's stolen child.

If a woman has a drug problem that cannot be fixed, there are ways of dealing with that. It starts with loss of custody and eventually may even include a TPR. There is a system. It is not OK to get a woman who is under the influence of drugs or alcohol to sign something, because a woman under the influence CANNOT GRANT CONSENT. And being under the influence, and not understanding what you are doing at the time of the adoption, does not equate with being an unfit parent in the long-term.

Even having a drug problem does not automatically call for the loss of your child--and it certainly doesn't entitle someone to steal your child because they think that they are more deserving.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
50. Is there a system? Yes. Was it working?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 08:54 AM
Aug 2015

Looks to me like it wasn't. Did the OB report her to the state? My guess is that it is required in Wisconsin and NJ as well. Did the OB set the meeting between them? Did the lawyers not know the law on adoption? Perhaps your anger should be directed at others in the process, not just the adoptive family.


StevieM

(10,500 posts)
53. So Rosie and the adoption agency get to unilaterally declare by fiat that the system
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:24 AM
Aug 2015

wasn't working and so all options are on the table?

Why wasn't the system working? Because the mother of the child that Rosie coveted had not had her daughter taken away forever? Maybe the system did work because Deanna (Kayla's real mom) did nothing to warrant a TPR so there wasn't one. In any event, it is never OK to short circuit the process with a coerced adoption.

This was not a woman under investigation. This was a case of a scheming adoption agency and a scheming prospective adoptive parent managing to get a woman's signature on something they knew she didn't want to sign.

And not much is required in order to do an adoption, not even an appearance in a courtroom in some states. As long as the PAPs have done a home study, often all you need is to get the signature of the mom--with no protections for her at all. No counseling, no court appearance (in some places) and no time afterwards to rescind, in case there was coercion or fraud.

I am angry at everyone involved in this de facto kidnapping: the system that allowed it, the abusive husband who maneuvered it, the corrupt adoption agency that facilitated it and the greedy PAPs who paid for it.

Kayla turns 18 on August 24. Hopefully she can reunite with her real mom and all her blood relatives at that point. It is a tragedy that she was ever stolen from them.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
40. We don't know the extent of her drug problem, only that she could not truly grant consent
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:46 PM
Aug 2015

when she "signed."

If a woman has such a bad drug problem that she cannot parent, there is a court-sanctioned mechanism to deal with that. TPR happens some times, but it must be handled by the courts--not a ruthless adoption agency or desperate prospective adoptive parents. No one has the right to unilaterally declare by fiat that someone is an unfit parent and so they deserve to lose their child, however it happens.

This poor woman was from Wisconsin and taken away to New Jersey, where she was completely isolated from her family and the people who knew her and loved her. This should come as no surprise, however, since it is the standard operating practice of the adoption industry. Sadly, adoption agencies and PAPs do this stuff all the time.

And there is no evidence that the broader family had problems and could not have helped--we only know that she was isolated from them.

Kayla's (Chelsea's) father should be ashamed of himself for conspiring to not only abandon his child, but to effectively steal her from a loving mother so that he could be free from his responsibilities and so that Rosie O'Donnel could play house with someone else's child.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
42. A wasted woman does not consent to an adoption, because a woman under the influence
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:19 AM
Aug 2015

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CANNOT GRANT CONSENT.

It is not the fault of Kayla's mother that she was deceived and defrauded by Rosie O'Donnell, her own husband and a ruthless adoption agency.

Kayla and her REAL mom are victims of all these people. I just pray that some day Kayla (Chelsea) can recover from what was done to her by Rosie and company.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
44. A woman under the influence CANNOT RAISE A CHILD
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:29 AM
Aug 2015

You seem to be making an awful lot of assumptions about what was best for this child.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
46. Kayla's REAL mom was not under the influence all the time. And if she was unfit to raise a child
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:54 AM
Aug 2015

then CPS could have stepped in. The courts are responsible for facilitating a TPR, not Rosie O'Donnell or any other entitled PAP.

Instead what happened was that Kayla's mom, who was not even thinking about adoption, was brought from Wisconsin to New Jersey and isolated from everyone she knew and loved. This is the modus operandi for the adoption industry and manipulative PAPs like Rosie.

Yes, I assume that Kayla was best off being with her blood relatives and her natural mother. And I definitely think she was best off not being stolen from her loving mom.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
45. Right. Baby should not be taken away until and unless mom sobers up enough to understand.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:39 AM
Aug 2015

Because her "rights" are the only relevant factor.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
47. If there was a problem with sobriety the courts could have intervened. They never even came close
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 12:59 AM
Aug 2015

to doing so. Instead, Rosie and a ruthless adoption agency intervened. And they did so for their own selfish reasons. Rosie didn't love Kayla the way her REAL mom loved her--she just wanted to play house with another woman's child.

And yes, Kayla has rights too, and they are a relevant factor. Kayla had the right to remain with her blood relatives and her loving mom, rather than being stolen and raised by genetic strangers.



tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
51. Please share your information on the biological mother
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 09:12 AM
Aug 2015

You apparently have some information the rest of us don't regarding the biological mother. What was her profession? Was she an addict of some sort or did she just not want the child? After all, Rosie just wanted to enjoy all the bliss that accompanies raising a fetal alcohol baby like my adopted nephew. Please, share your information so that the rest of us can minimize Ms. O'Donnell's adoption of this child.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
54. There is no evidence that Kayla (Chelsea) was a FAS baby. And yes, Rosie adopted her children
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 11:40 AM
Aug 2015

to serve her own needs, not those of the kids. Adoptive parents are not heroes who selflessly saved a child's life. They are people who, in most cases, desperately wanted a child and saw an opportunity. The child rarely comes from an unloving mother who wants out. Often it comes from a woman who was coerced, or at best was in dire circumstances and forced to accept a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

In the case of Kayla, it was blatant fraud. The woman's husband wanted to get rid of the baby and so he took her to New Jersey, isolated her from everyone she knew and loved, got her got her high and tricked her into signing something she did not want to sign. The adoption agency happily went along with it (and possibly advised it), and Rosie got to go home with the child that she coveted--another woman's baby.

There is no evidence that she was a drug addict or unfit to parent. And if she was then that matter should have gone through CPS and the courts. People can't simply declare by fiat that a woman deserves to lose her child. Rosie and the adoption agency had no right to steal this child from a loving and devoted mother.

Here are the links you asked for:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/rosie-o-donnell-stole-adopted-daughter-biological-mom-article-1.2161637

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3011256/Biological-mother-Rosie-O-Donnell-s-eldest-daughter-claims-Rosie-STOLE-baby-comedian-knew-addicted-heroin-unable-agree-adoption.html

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
56. You just contradicted yourself in your own link.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:50 PM
Aug 2015

I generally don't respond to anti-adoption commentary because I consider it a stupid position that isn't worth debating, but I have to point out that you just blatantly contradicted yourself.

First you said "There is no evidence that she was a drug addict or unfit to parent."

And then you proceeded to link to a Daily Mail article in which the mother flat out admits that she was a long term heroin junkie who was in and out of jail.

Nobody tricked this woman or forced her to sign her kid away. She chose to be a junkie, chose to use drugs, and then chose to give up her daughter. The argument that she shouldn't be held responsible for actions she took while under the influence is the same argument that drunk date rapists and drivers make. You don't get to waive responsibility for your actions simply because YOU CHOSE to consume drugs or alcohol.

And, quite frankly, if all it took was a few bucks and some drugs to get her to sign over her kid, that alone proves that she was unfit to parent.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
57. First of all, anyone with a criminal record can technically be said to be "in and out of jail."
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:24 PM
Aug 2015

Having a criminal record does not mean you have no right to your own children.

The mother was 20 years old at the time of the coerced adoption. The fact that she had a history with drugs does not make her "a long time junkie."

And if she was a junkie, or a danger to her daughter, there is a court process to remove the child from her custody and perhaps even issue a TPR. Neither you nor Rosie have the right to unilaterally make that declaration by fiat.

The argument made by the mother was that she was under the influence AT THE TIME THAT SHE SIGNED. A woman under the influence cannot grant consent. The mother has said that she did not know what she was doing when she signed and that she had never intended to give her daughter up for adoption. (Perhaps that wasn't mentioned in the first link, to the Daily Mail, but there were multiple articles on this matter).

And I don't agree that if you are drunk or high that you deserve whatever happens to you as a result of actions that you took--or that were taken against you--at the time. Do I have the right to get a girl drunk and then sleep with her when she doesn't understand what is going on?

In this case, I think the husband probably got her stoned so that he could get her to sign. He knew that there was no other way she would ever sign the papers. Again, this was not a woman looking for an adoption. Her husband took her from Wisconsin to New Jersey to isolate her from everyone she knew and loved. That is the Modus Operandi of the adoption industry. I think this was planned way in advance, and I do suspect that Rosie had a good idea of what was going on.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
30. I agree with Chelsea's REAL mother. If she signed papers while under the influence of drugs,
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:17 PM
Aug 2015

and Rosie knew she was affected by drugs, then that means Rosie stole her baby IMO.

I wouldn't put something like that past Rosie O'Donnell. She and her brother are leading opponents of the efforts to keep original birth certificates sealed in NY. They want to deny Rosie's adoptive children the right to their own birth records and the story of their origins.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
9. Sorry, not buying it.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:40 PM
Aug 2015

She checks into the Millennium Hilton for a few days.

Look, I'm not trying to make light of this. Really. But it's not like your kid or my kid has "gone missing." Chelsea probably had her own Amex Black Card.

That said, I certainly hope Chelsea is re-united with her mom asap.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
11. I would imagine that she had the credit card company look into this
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:52 PM
Aug 2015

well before announcing it to the press.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. They think she may have gone looking for her birth mother who she located last year...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:55 PM
Aug 2015

She was a junkie who blames Rosie for stealing her baby. I think she did an interview saying Rosie's daughter hates Rosie now that she knows.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
27. I hope that she has reunited with her natural mother. Bonding with her would be good for Chelsea IMO
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:11 PM
Aug 2015

eom

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
31. I'm not sure I'd want to bond with a Mom who sells her dirty laundry to the National Enquirer....
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:18 PM
Aug 2015

but, you never know!

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
34. Why don't we let Chelsea decide that? I am betting that Rosie isn't so willing to let Chelsea make
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:24 PM
Aug 2015

that decision, given that she and her brother are tireless opponents of the efforts to unseal original birth certificates and give adoptees access to the records of their birth.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
21. Geez...you people!
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 08:44 PM
Aug 2015

OBVIOUSLY Rosie knows that her kids have advantages and options (like credit card/hotel) that OUR kids don't. Chelsea was missing for a week before there was anything reported on the media. Rosie must have known that Chelsea could have just holed up somewhere. But when the girl can't be contacted or found she is just as much a concerned parent going through hell like every other parent!

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
26. Yeah, and we can all reach out for help like Rosie can and just did
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:11 PM
Aug 2015

Just like every kid that gets into trouble right? The elite need us more than we need them.

vankuria

(904 posts)
16. She's been found
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 07:02 PM
Aug 2015

according to NBC news, she's ok and no other details offered other than she suffers from a mental illness.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
28. Klaxon for them but not for we
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:13 PM
Aug 2015

As fucking if we the people get this special treatment when our kin go astray.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
24. I guess we'll never know what these lives of privilege have going on
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 09:03 PM
Aug 2015

All that matters is that we care for those we care for.

Who do you love???

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
48. Hopefully she gets reunited with her blood relatives and her loving natural mother who
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:25 AM
Aug 2015

Rosie stole her from.

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