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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:24 PM May 2012

after woman posts poem about how she was bullied, class of 1987 contacts her to apologize

A woman says a Facebook poem she posted about bullying has brought pleas for forgiveness from former classmates who tormented her at a California high school 25 years ago.

Now, some of those classmates want to make amends and have asked Lynda Frederick, 42, of Rochester, N.Y., to attend her 25th high school reunion in Escondido, Calif., on July 27, compliments of the Orange Glen High School Class of 1987.

“I am nervous,” Frederick told msnbc.com on Friday. “I am looking forward to seeing them, even knowing that what has happened has happened. I have forgiven those who have hurt me in the past.”

Frederick said she received phone calls, emails and Facebook messages from former classmates after she posted a poem on the Orange Glen High School Class of 1987 Facebook page.

In her poem, she wrote:

that little girl who came to school with the clothes she wore the day before
instead of asking why.. you picked on her
the little girl who had to walk to school while others rode the bus
instead of asking why.. you picked on her
the little girl who had bruises and was dirty
instead of asking why.. you picked on her
the little girl who was always crying
instead of asking why.. you picked on her


“They’re all apologizing now for how I was treated,” Frederick said. “I had one man call me up and we talked for an hour on the phone. He cried and cried. I kept saying, ‘You can’t fix yesterday, so let’s fix today.’”

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/18/11756696-25-years-after-bullying-facebook-poem-prompts-class-of-1987-to-make-amends?lite

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after woman posts poem about how she was bullied, class of 1987 contacts her to apologize (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA May 2012 OP
Great story! jorno67 May 2012 #1
Wow, what a nice story. tridim May 2012 #2
Wish mine was the same, but it wasn't Joe Bacon May 2012 #34
When you hurt a person for amusement yellerpup May 2012 #3
It's happened to me, too... richmwill May 2012 #4
interesting! So you didn't even have to tell him that he mistreated you. he knew it! great story Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #5
memory issues kardonb May 2012 #31
I've gone through that process a few times myself in the last few years Posteritatis May 2012 #12
what a great story! It gives me hope that something is better out there. CTyankee May 2012 #17
Most kids eventually grow up into adults slackmaster May 2012 #6
Which is why adults should be guiding kids through this stuff Iris May 2012 #23
The bullies I have known all had parents that were, let's say flawed in some way slackmaster May 2012 #24
I didn't really think of that. Iris May 2012 #30
See Mitt, what compassionate adults do? It's not too late for you. Scuba May 2012 #7
K&R BrendaBrick May 2012 #8
that poem is so heartbreaking renate May 2012 #9
PFFFFFT. My assholes would likely say "Eat a dick and move on, it was 25 years ago". HughBeaumont May 2012 #10
It's funny, but I have connected via FaceBook with some of those kids I went to school with. It's GreenPartyVoter May 2012 #13
Same thing I've experienced. intheflow May 2012 #20
Heh. I was a cheerleader, but I was the least popular one ever. LOL You are so right, though. We GreenPartyVoter May 2012 #45
And as predicted, the comments on that story literally make me give up hope for humanity. HughBeaumont May 2012 #14
And these pieces of sewage have the colossal audacity hifiguy May 2012 #18
Disgusting. My niece will carry the scars from her years of school bullying forever riderinthestorm May 2012 #19
Comments like that make "going postal" seem rational. TahitiNut May 2012 #21
"I think people should just be more accepting of bullying" Rob H. May 2012 #22
Isn't it amazing that the former (and current) bullies Curmudgeoness May 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl May 2012 #29
This is what "Guidance Counselors" told me! Joe Bacon May 2012 #35
My God. Bullying is not a 'rite of passage'. It's verbal, emotional, and physical abuse. Zoeisright May 2012 #37
"It was good to see kids get picked on"???????????? GOOD??????? calimary May 2012 #42
The level of forgiveness that woman has is amazing obamanut2012 May 2012 #11
I'm glad the ones that bullied her have grown up enough to have the empathy and decency Raine May 2012 #15
that's awesome... we need more stories like this fascisthunter May 2012 #16
Wow. She's a great person. I never want to Dash87 May 2012 #25
"You can't fix yesterday, so lets fix today." jerseyjack May 2012 #26
I doubt I could be that forgiving. CrispyQ May 2012 #28
Bullying hurts those who bully icarusxat May 2012 #32
I agree. Allowing it to continue not only hurts the victim but reinforces the actions of the bully. rhett o rick May 2012 #44
K&R Odin2005 May 2012 #33
Here's something my high school teacher husband is trying to impress on the girl bullies at his Zoeisright May 2012 #36
Excellent Advice From Him HangOnKids May 2012 #40
Wow! Thatmade me cry...I still have tears in my eye. How sad! Auntie Bush May 2012 #38
He not only claimed he couldn't remember, but he chuckled about it. calimary May 2012 #43
I too was bullied on a daily basis silentwarrior May 2012 #39
I have forgiven my bullies but I never forgot and I have no desire to go back to any reunions. It southernyankeebelle May 2012 #41

tridim

(45,358 posts)
2. Wow, what a nice story.
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:35 PM
May 2012

It's great that this problem is finally being exposed, and lots of good people are trying very hard to fix it.

Joe Bacon

(5,165 posts)
34. Wish mine was the same, but it wasn't
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:09 PM
May 2012

Yes, some of those folks who thought it was so great to beat me in school sent friend requests on Facebook. And they also sent nasty comments along with them which gave me the pleasure of reporting those nasty remarks then blocking them.

When it comes to high school reunions, Ricky Nelson said it best!

If you got to play at garden parties, I wish you the best of luck, 'cause if memories were all I'd need, I'd rather drive a truck. But I'm all right now, I learned my lesson well, see you can't please everyone, you got to please yourself

The happiest day of my life was when I walked out of Ambridge High School for the last time. And I went and got my Masters degree even after teachers and guidance counselors told me I couldn't cut it in college. And as to all the big jocks on the football team who beat me with the coach's blessing, their life peaked at 18 and went downhill from there.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
3. When you hurt a person for amusement
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:43 PM
May 2012

you never forget it. She is doing a lot of healing here, IMO, because she is accepting apologies and forgiving those who bullied her for their most shameful acts.

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
4. It's happened to me, too...
Fri May 18, 2012, 06:49 PM
May 2012

Growing up with Cerebral Palsy and a walking disability, I was bullied and teased and made fun of a LOT during my school years. When Facebook came around, I added the classmates who had treated me well. One night I received a request from one of my worst bullying tormentors. Deciding to be the bigger man and to let the past be the past, I accepted the request. Later on that night I received a message from him sincerely apologizing for how he treated me back in junior high and high school. We talked, and now I would consider us very good friends. To the point that when his mother passed away a couple of years ago, I sent him my condolences and mourned her death with him. Twenty years ago, you would have never been able to convince me that I would become friends with this guy. But, it happened.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
31. memory issues
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:21 PM
May 2012

This guy isn' even running for the presidency , but he sure has a better memory than one bully we know .

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
12. I've gone through that process a few times myself in the last few years
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:41 PM
May 2012

It's a difficult thing, but does it ever take some weights you may not have noticed are there off when it goes alright.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. what a great story! It gives me hope that something is better out there.
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:31 PM
May 2012

I am so happy for you that at long last you have some reparation for your terrible experience...

Iris

(15,656 posts)
23. Which is why adults should be guiding kids through this stuff
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:38 PM
May 2012

Maybe kids are cruel but that's because they don't know any better. Someone needs to teach them better.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
24. The bullies I have known all had parents that were, let's say flawed in some way
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:00 AM
May 2012

Absent, drunk, or just plain bullies themselves.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. See Mitt, what compassionate adults do? It's not too late for you.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:25 PM
May 2012

Nah, it's probably too late for Robdme.

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. that poem is so heartbreaking
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:34 PM
May 2012


And now her daughter is being bullied too... that must bring it all back so vividly. I hope the media coverage helps her daughter somehow, but my heart aches for all the kids whose stories don't get any attention.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
10. PFFFFFT. My assholes would likely say "Eat a dick and move on, it was 25 years ago".
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:36 PM
May 2012

There are a few people on DU would say the same thing, or blame me, the unwilling participant in some fuck's anger management problems, for not fighting back and getting expelled.

Search around on threads with the word "bully" if you find that far-fetched.

Shit like this stays with you longer than people think it does. Often times you just can't forgive and forget.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
13. It's funny, but I have connected via FaceBook with some of those kids I went to school with. It's
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:49 PM
May 2012

kind of nice to just find common ground now as adults, but it's very true that the old garbage sticks with you, if not consciously then subconsciously.

intheflow

(28,473 posts)
20. Same thing I've experienced.
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:04 PM
May 2012

I was the the 1980 version of GothGirl in my lily-white high school. Became fb friends a few years ago with three of... if not my arch-nemeses, at least my mortal opposites: The Cheerleaders. Turns out all grew up to be good liberals despite our Republican upbringings, and two I would consider actual friends now. (One is still outta her mind. But harmless.) Discovered one of those uber-bubbly girls was actually going through a family molestation nightmare. The other was cheerleading through her parents' ugly and violent divorce. You simply have no idea what's happening in most people's lives, especially people outside your circle in high school.

OTOH, I friended my first boyfriend against my better judgement. Had to unfriend the contentious RW troll soon after.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
45. Heh. I was a cheerleader, but I was the least popular one ever. LOL You are so right, though. We
Wed May 23, 2012, 03:37 PM
May 2012

never know what nightmares other people are going through, and unfortunately when we are young we so often can't see very far beyond ourselves yet so just don't realize that _everyone_ is suffering somehow. (I'm going through this now with my younger middle school aged son. He refuses to believe that anyone else in his class is ever as miserable or self-conscious as he is. )

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
14. And as predicted, the comments on that story literally make me give up hope for humanity.
Fri May 18, 2012, 07:55 PM
May 2012
Fucking assholes . . .

Pretty touching story, but I have to agree with those who say bullying victims should've learned to toughen up and stand up to the bullies then and there.


It really is educational - you learn to stand up for yourself against bullies when you're a kid, you'll learn to stand up for yourself against the bullies you meet in adulthood. They might not give you atomic wedgies or bully you physically like they did in school, but you'll run into them in all stages of life and if you never learned up to stand up for yourself you're just doomed to an even more difficult life than it has to be.


Not so much, I think some people think bullying is a problem, but some of us see the truth that bullying is needed in school. That's why I always tried to urge my classmates not to report it, so that adults did not have to step in. It was good to see kids get picked on, they became stronger adults later on in life.


Well, I think if someone takes their own life, bullied or not, it's on them. I don't think that I am sick, I just see the benefits of bullying.


Chris, I completely agree with you. I'm just finishing college this year and had it not been for bullying that was done to me throughout grade school and high school, I would not have gotten this far. It taught me to toughen up my outer shell, to be able to take hard criticism, to be able push ahead in life so I would not be stuck under them all. I see people who bullied me years ago come up to me in college and try to act nice and stuff like that. I say thanks and all but really just ignore them. Karma hit them all rather hard. I can't name one of them who is passing everything in college. They all lost their scholarships and had to transfer from bigger schools to smaller community colleges.

All in all, had I not been bullied I would not be as strong as I am today. Sometimes it goes to far, I admit that. And believe me, I hated every minute of it, but now I know that I grew up better than them. So cudos to you Chris. You're not the only one who thinks this.


Wow, times have changed. I think it was better when bullying was a rite of passage. It helped build strength up and made it easier to face the tough crule world ahead. I think people should just be more accepting of bullying, and understand how important it is to our society, rather than fight against it. Other than that, how does one learn to stand up for ones self?


Motherfuckers.
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
18. And these pieces of sewage have the colossal audacity
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:42 PM
May 2012

to call themselves human. We re fucking done as a society when this kind of attitude becomes this common.

And the poem in the OP just broke my heart.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
19. Disgusting. My niece will carry the scars from her years of school bullying forever
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:03 PM
May 2012

I'm furious at the school for never getting a handle on it for her sake, and others. Complaints about the bullying never met with any real progress on stopping it. My niece endured 12 years of hell and the school system was never able to get a grip on stopping it.

With counseling, she's graduating - but with the worst possible grades and with a vow to never step foot into a classroom again. Where does that leave her in today's economy?

I am so sorry for your pain HughBeaumont. I completely understand where you are coming from..

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
21. Comments like that make "going postal" seem rational.
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:30 PM
May 2012

How else could a bullied person react when confronted with such monumental inhumanity? Sheesh!

Rob H.

(5,351 posts)
22. "I think people should just be more accepting of bullying"
Fri May 18, 2012, 09:34 PM
May 2012

Obviously, this person was never on the receiving end. "Rite of passage"? What complete and utter bullshit.

And to this asshole:

Well, I think if someone takes their own life, bullied or not, it's on them. I don't think that I am sick, I just see the benefits of bullying.


You're a sick bastard whether you think you are or not. A classmate of mine in high school committed suicide and even though we weren't what you would call close, I still sometimes wonder whether any of us could have helped him if only he'd reached out, and he died over 25 years ago.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
27. Isn't it amazing that the former (and current) bullies
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:03 PM
May 2012

are the ones who think it is such a learning experience for the bullied.....like they would know!!!

It fascinates me to see how they try to justify what they do by telling the victims that it was good for them.

Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #14)

Joe Bacon

(5,165 posts)
35. This is what "Guidance Counselors" told me!
Sat May 19, 2012, 02:11 PM
May 2012

Yes, even after they would see me with cuts and bruises from the latest beat down, they told me to suck it up and take it like a man. All it did was build up the rage in me....

calimary

(81,265 posts)
42. "It was good to see kids get picked on"???????????? GOOD???????
Sat May 19, 2012, 06:33 PM
May 2012

OMG! That's a disgrace!

Man, compassion just doesn't count for much anymore.

I'm stunned. Who would Jesus bully? Guess we might be able to surmise who these people were in a past life...

Raine

(30,540 posts)
15. I'm glad the ones that bullied her have grown up enough to have the empathy and decency
Fri May 18, 2012, 08:22 PM
May 2012

to apologize and try and make up for it. Other adult bullies (Rmoney) could learn from these people what it really means to grow up.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
25. Wow. She's a great person. I never want to
Sat May 19, 2012, 09:35 AM
May 2012

see the people I went to High School with again, though. I was never really bullied (outside the usual drama and name-calling that everyone went through), but I just consider that part of my life to be closed.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
28. I doubt I could be that forgiving.
Sat May 19, 2012, 12:36 PM
May 2012

Good for her.

I hope these people who are ashamed of how they treated her, have a serious talk with their children.

icarusxat

(403 posts)
32. Bullying hurts those who bully
Sat May 19, 2012, 01:41 PM
May 2012

Many are bullied because they are stronger, better, smarter
The mental hygiene problems for both parties are well documented
It is not a rite of passage, but rather a demonstration of fear and weakness on the part of the bully, who should be then treated as damaged goods.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
36. Here's something my high school teacher husband is trying to impress on the girl bullies at his
Sat May 19, 2012, 03:05 PM
May 2012

school:

Being a bully makes you very, very ugly.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
40. Excellent Advice From Him
Sat May 19, 2012, 04:55 PM
May 2012

Put it to them in a way they will understand. EVERY high school girl wants to be pretty, EVERY ONE. Telling them this behavior makes them ugly is perfect, because it does, and they will most likely get it.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
38. Wow! Thatmade me cry...I still have tears in my eye. How sad!
Sat May 19, 2012, 03:44 PM
May 2012

but I'm glad they are sorry now and apologized...not like Romney who can't even remember being so cruel. I hope she has a nice time.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
43. He not only claimed he couldn't remember, but he chuckled about it.
Sat May 19, 2012, 06:35 PM
May 2012

I bet his victim thought it was just freakin' hilarious. A laugh riot.

silentwarrior

(250 posts)
39. I too was bullied on a daily basis
Sat May 19, 2012, 04:37 PM
May 2012

I have been invited to a class reunion but I feel nothing in common with the so called class mates of my year group. And I have the invite via facebook. Seeing them all fills me with dread, even though I am a mum to 3 kids myself.

I know I will revert back to the insecure child I used to be if I accept the invitation, therefore I will not be attending. Not that I do not forgive them, as children do grow up and probably regret what assholes they used to be to people.

I never fitted in with them then, and it sure wont be any different now

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
41. I have forgiven my bullies but I never forgot and I have no desire to go back to any reunions. It
Sat May 19, 2012, 05:02 PM
May 2012

only brings back sad memories for me. I have let it go because it eats you inside if you don't. Forgive and move on. That is the greatest gift to yourself.

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