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RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:05 PM Jul 2015

Zimbabwean officials: American man wanted in killing of Cecil the lion

Excellent, they are trying to locate the asshole dentist.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/africa/zimbabwe-lion-killed/

A police official in Zimbabwe said that two Zimbabweans had been arrested in the case and that police were looking for Palmer.


http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-whats-happening-to-the-dentist-who-allegedly-killed#.mbdv113M9

According to a local reporter, Palmer’s office is completely shut at the moment.
Dental practice belonging to controversial big game hunter Walter Palmer completely locked down. All shades drawn.
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Zimbabwean officials: American man wanted in killing of Cecil the lion (Original Post) RKP5637 Jul 2015 OP
Better get him before he leaves the country, he'll never be extradited tularetom Jul 2015 #1
If that happens we can put him on trial here. iandhr Jul 2015 #16
Palmer’s office is completely shut at the moment. CountAllVotes Jul 2015 #2
To paraphrase Prof. Gary L. Francione: We are all the dentist opedwriter Jul 2015 #3
Yup. Because we all eat lion burgers right? truebrit71 Jul 2015 #5
Please explain this difference. In detail. I don't get it. Hun Joro Jul 2015 #6
There is a difference between hunting for food, and hunting for "sport". truebrit71 Jul 2015 #8
No, I still don't get it. RIP, Pinky. Hun Joro Jul 2015 #11
You are right. Lurker Deluxe Jul 2015 #12
What about the cute, cuddly animals that Cecil ate?... SidDithers Jul 2015 #18
The difference...... opedwriter Jul 2015 #14
It can take a nuance not readily available to the irrational or dogmatic mind... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #7
Very good point!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #13
Maybe... kwolf68 Jul 2015 #15
Jollies opedwriter Jul 2015 #17
Losing my mind on this kwolf68 Jul 2015 #4
Cecil brought in tourist dollars. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #9
I know it kwolf68 Jul 2015 #10

opedwriter

(3 posts)
3. To paraphrase Prof. Gary L. Francione: We are all the dentist
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:56 PM
Jul 2015

As a vegan, I find it hypocritical for non-vegans to get all upset about this lion, while eating animal products involves cruelty to animals everyday.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
5. Yup. Because we all eat lion burgers right?
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jul 2015

With a side of Rhino fries?

There is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between eating meat and what this fucking prick did for "sport"...

Hun Joro

(666 posts)
6. Please explain this difference. In detail. I don't get it.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:09 PM
Jul 2015

I grieve for Cecil the lion as well, but the animals you consume had lives and felt emotion and pain, and I don't see why it should matter that one had a name and the others didn't.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
8. There is a difference between hunting for food, and hunting for "sport".
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:12 PM
Jul 2015

The fact he had a name doesn't enter into it.

I ate bits of a pig called Pinky once. Very tasty too. But he wasn't tortured for 40 hours, skinned and beheaded.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,036 posts)
12. You are right.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:26 PM
Jul 2015

Pinky was not tortured for 40 hours, he was tortured his entire life. Penned up and fed for a single purpose ... to grow big enough to eat.

Pretty sure he was skinned, and most likely beheaded as well.

Sorry, but a caged animal for life being raised for the sole purpose of food stock is not even close to an animal that lives in it's natural habitat. I don't like trophy hunters, but comparing caged animals to wildlife thinking the caged animal is better is nonsense.

opedwriter

(3 posts)
14. The difference......
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:29 PM
Jul 2015

The difference is that we justify the torture & killing of farm animals because we think they taste good. So in both cases, we're talking about our personal pleasure.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. It can take a nuance not readily available to the irrational or dogmatic mind...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:11 PM
Jul 2015

It can take a nuance not readily available to the irrational or dogmatic mind to differentiate destruction of life merely for entertainment; a concept Albert Schweitzer was easily able to find in his desire to sanctify all life.

"I find it hypocritical for non-vegans..."
No doubt, we often find what better assuages our own righteousness at the expense of others.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
15. Maybe...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jul 2015

One difference is meat eaters don't get their jollies from smacking a cow in the head with a hammer. If the consumption of meat was done in a sustainable, humane way then few would argue. So THERE IS a way to consume domesticated farm raised animals in a positive way (if the practices were changed). There is NO way to spin the canned slaughter of a natural predator playing a viable role in his ecosystem. The two ARE different.

opedwriter

(3 posts)
17. Jollies
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 01:45 PM
Jul 2015

The reality is that there presently isn't humane slaughter, & many would argue that it is an oxymoron. Is paying someone to do it any different from doing it yourself? And the "jollies" may come from the pleasure of eating, rather than the act of killing, but it makes little difference to the animal.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
4. Losing my mind on this
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jul 2015

Friend of mine on Facebook ranted in defense of this guy....complete with the stock "people are dying" in Zimbabwe meme. I let him have it, but he called people like me (us) stupid, ignorant, enviro-nazis, etc...I am in a fantasy football league with him and 11 others like him. I am thinking perhaps I should remain in Pittsburgh and let them have their own fascist draft.
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