Megyn Kelly, Fox News-host and former lawyer: "Both constitutions have lots of similar words!"

[DetlefK]

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/02/megyn_kelly_gets_taken_behind_the_woodshed_by_the_satanic_temples_lucien_greaves/

The Oklahoma state capitol had a Ten Commandments monument. The Satanic Temple wanted to place a statue of Baphomet next to it, as a sign of plurality.
This week the Oklahoma Supreme Court then decided that the monument is rather religious than historic and should be taken down. In response, the Satanic Temple withdrew its demand to put up the statue.

Megyn Kelly interviewed a co-founder of the Satanic Temple... and it didn't go well for her.
- She was shocked that her guest was reasonable.
- She didn't prepare by looking up some facts about her guest.
- He told her that he is a co-founder and two questions later she asked him what drew him to the Satanic Temple.
- She didn't prepare by looking up the philosophy of the Satanic Temple.
- She reminded him that the US Supreme Court found a similar monument in Texas to not be in violation of the religious establishment clause of the US constitution. He countered by noting that one case was about the US constitution and one was about the Oklahoma state constitution.

“It’s not that different,” Kelly asserted.
“It’s entirely different,” he replied. “Texas is a moot point. You’re talking about two different constitutions.”
“I know, I’ve looked at them both,” Kelly replied before resorting to all she had left — a bald argument from authority. “You know, I practiced law for a decade,” she said, “so I read them and saw a lot of similar words.”

[CBGLuthier]

1. A lot of similar words like "of" and "the" and "whereas" and....

The Oklahoma Constitution has 30 articles and 150 amendments. I would not expect her to know much about the Oklahoma Constitution but she sounds ignorant about both of them.

[Paladin]

2. "I practiced law" has a different meaning as to Megyn Kelly.

She may have practiced it, but she evidently never got very good at it......

[ananda]

10. I guess she got her law degree at BYU (Backyard U)

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[Jamastiene]

3. I see a lot of similar words when I read about dumbass Faux News hosts too.

Half of them are synonyms for the word, "idiot." The other half has to do with the outright lies they tell their viewers daily.

[Demit]

4. She must've been great in court. "Your honor, look, similar words! I rest my case!"

[Orrex]

5. She's a real weathervane for DU

When she blasts Huckabee re: matters of law, we sing her praises.
When she screws things up re: matters of law, we blast her as an out-of-her-depth talking head.


Hmm.

[Human101948]

6. Apply the "Broken Clock" axiom...

She can be right now and then. But most of the time she is wrong.

[Orrex]

9. It's the extremity of the response that gives me pause

In the recent Huckabee thread, we were loudly praising her smarts as an experienced attorney, rather than simply noting that a commentator actually took her job seriously and called out a bullshitter on-air.

In the current example (and in many others), we immediately question her legal and journalistic credibility, rather than noting that a commentator flubbed an interview (and probably didn't receive good preparatory info prior to it).

Quite a pendulum swing, and I'm pretty sure that I'm just as guilty as anyone.

[JHB]

11. "We" who? This is not a hive mind, always thinking all the same thoughts

Your point would be much stronger if you could show that it's the same set of DUers making that pendulum swing.

I think a more reasonable proposition is that it's different sets of respondents. The same effect is visible much more often with Chris Matthews.

[Orrex]

13. That's a fair point.

The same effect is visible much more often with Chris Matthews.

And Bill Maher, while we're at it. He and Matthews are very wrong much more often than they're right, and we see a number of posts disproportionately (IMO) heralding their correct moments.

Nature of the beast, I suppose.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

7. we praise her when she is right and criticize when....

.... she is wrong.
Are we not merciful. ..

[Orrex]

8. Well stated.

That last sentence is exactly correct.

[Paladin]

12. Some right-wingers get a "broke clock/right twice a day" pass from me.

She and the rest of the Fox staff: Not so much. The quality of mercy is way too strained for such people......

[Rex]

14. Not this we.

She is a vapid moran that belongs on Foxnews. Nothing she says will make me think better of her, maybe quitting Foxnews and writing a tell all book...maybe that would but I doubt it.

[jberryhill]

16. Perhaps "we" are a lot of individuals

[Orrex]

17. Perhaps that point has already been conceded.

[jberryhill]

18. Perhaps I was reading down the thread and hit "reply"

[Orrex]

19. Perhaps I should come over there and tell you what's what.

Or more likely not. I'd probably turn out to be wrong anyway, and then you'd get to tell me what's what, and that's the last way you need to waste your time today.

[jberryhill]

20. Perhaps I'll get some more beer

...and throw another burger on the grill.

You are welcome anytime, and I would be honored.

[Orrex]

22. Now that sounds like a fine time.

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[Fred Sanders]

15. When you sell your soul to Fox the quid pro quo for the Cash is lying, hate and distortion.

Intelligence is much more desired by propaganda masters than stupidity, who else better to cultivate the rich harvest of American Stupid?

Albany Law School with honors, and editor of the law school journal..not stupid, just without ethics.

[onenote]

21. These are the two provisions Kelly thinks aren't all that different

US Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Oklahoma Constitution:

No public money or property shall ever be appropriated, applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use, benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest, preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or sectarian institution as such.