Be honest about Hillary Clinton's speech delivery skills

[diamondhead]

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They're not good. They never really have been good. And it's extremely disheartening to see that after all this time she hasn't improved in the slightest.

I'm not trying to piss people off, I'm trying to have respect for the truth here. I agree with everything she said. I support everything she said. I'm not talking about WHAT she said. I'm talking about HOW she said it.

It was robotic. It was mostly monotone. She was reading off of a piece of paper like it was the first time she read it. In short: It sucked.

And if you think it doesn't matter, you're delusional. In politics, delivery matters more than the content. This is why people voted for George W. Bush over Al Gore. Is George W. Bush a great speaker? Of course not. But he was "down homey" and "relateable" and all that other BULLSHIT that matters to the general voting population. He was the guy "you'd have a beer with" while Al Gore was stiff, robotic, uninspiring.

Hillary Clinton comes off as phoney and untrustworthy when she speaks to a large crowd. I AM NOT SAYING THAT SHE IS PHONEY OR UNTRUSTWORTHY. I'm saying that's how she COMES OFF, and it fucking matters. WE are not the same as the average voter out there. We are the base. We're going to support our candidate because we're paying attention to issues and care about what they are saying, not how they are saying it.

THEY, the American people, all they care about is delivery. They vote for who they like. They vote for the one who "feels" trustworthy and true. And that comes from the way a candidate delivers a speech. Hillary Clinton needs to work on this NOW. I'm sure she can get there. It's sad that she hasn't gotten there after all this time.

This is constructive criticism. This is honesty. You can choose to live in a bubble and say Hillary Clinton is great no matter what, or you can be real. If you're being real, you can't honestly say she did a good job today.

EDIT
I'm going to make a prediction. Could be wrong. But my prediction is this: Her numbers are going to take a hit after this speech. Let's see if they do a poll within a timely fashion and see what happens. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I'm going with it.

[onehandle]

1. I can honestly say she did a good job today.

And goodbye.

[philosslayer]

2. They're fine

Some people are just not natural speakers. Secretary Clinton continues to improve. We're voting for a leader. A Commander in Chief. A President. Not a head orator.

[Bobbie Jo]

3. Welcome to DU

tl/dr

[MoonRiver]

4. Bull Shit, she was awesome.

But thank you for your concern.

[PowerToThePeople]

5. video for you

I do not agree with this video making fun of the differently-abled, but I think you get the point.

[bigtree]

6. maybe

...but Bush was only "down homey" to his bigoted supporters. He always struck me as an ignorant jerk; a creep. His speaking style was one of an uneducated moron; a cruel high school prankster.

I never bought into the hype spread that night of the debate about Gore.

[FSogol]

14. Agree. He sounded like a privileged frat boy smirking because he knew he

was going to get away with it, thanks to Daddy and his powerful friends.

[cwydro]

117. What you said.

Nail on head.

[nolabear]

7. OFFS

This is something entirely other than constructive criticism (what, you've got anybody who counts' ear?) or honesty. It's an opinion. And one many, many of us don't share.

Btw, are you not an American? I noted the "they."

[Starry Messenger]

8. All those thousands of people in the crowd there disagreed

People were lunging at her to get hugs. Sorry you are sad.

[MADem]

9. Welcome To DU and we get it--you don't like her. No need to play games about the "why" of it all.

You didn't need to write a half dozen paragraphs to tell us that you aren't on her team.

But I'll bet she gives a better speech than you ever could.



Oh....and that's "constructive criticism" ... that's "honesty." You can choose to live in a bubble, or you can choose to be real. If you're being real, you can't honestly say that this post of yours accomplished much of anything today.

Sound familiar...?

[fadedrose]

20. MADem

YOU could give a better speech because you have a natural way with words.. I've noticed that before.

So does the writer of the OP....it flows nicely with paragraph breaks the same as if he were speaking and changing the tone of his voice for the next thought. Your post is like that.

Some speeches are long and don't seem to be paragraphed the right way, or at all. I have a hard time reading them because I am too dumb to change subjects without somebody telling me when.

[hrmjustin]

123. He is in ppr heaven now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com?com=profile&uid=323617&sub=trans

[MADem]

126. Ha! Sur-prize, sur-PRIZE, as Gomer would say! nt

[NCTraveler]

10. The fact that this is the criticism being delivered.

Seems clear she knocked it out of the park. I'm also not saying you are "PHONEY OR UNTRUSTWORTHY. I'm saying that's how" you "COMES OFF, and it fucking matters."

[femmocrat]

11. I thought she did great.

And this is the second thread I have read of yours today critiquing her delivery. Who are you, Cicero?

She has a bit of a midwestern accent which makes her tone kind of flat, but I thought her delivery has improved over 2008.

[askew]

12. She's workmanlike.

The only time she gets passionate is when talking about women's issues and herself. But, she isn't going to need to be anything but mediocre to win the primary. There is just too much institutional and media support for Hillary not to win. I'd like to see O'Malley or Sanders win but it just won't happen unfortunately. I think Hillary's inability to inspire people outside her core base is going to kill us in the general election though.

[6chars]

37. She was on for several parts of the speech

I don't think it's much of a concern. Pretty much every politician now sounds like they're doing speeches all the time and no matter who is speaking, there are enough cliches that they sound like a politician giving a speech... "we (will) have the best ___ in the world" (education, healthcare, military, entrepeneurs, workers, energy technology, etc.) I try to listen for what is different and what is specific enough that they will pay a price if they don't follow through, or for some explanation that they really understand the cause of a problem and so the steps to fix it make sense. That wasn't really the purpose of this speech, but I would like to see get wonky like that.

[askew]

44. She lacks believability.

That's why she has such low trustworthy #s. All politicians bullshit to an extent but the great ones can make you believe what they are saying (see Bill Clinton, Barack Obama). Hillary is horrible at this and she always looks pained to have to interact with people. Bill and Obama act like they love meeting the people.

[6chars]

53. in a way that makes her more believable

if you know they're bs-ing, wouldn't you rather have the one whose at least uncomfortable with that?

Just to compare for oratory style, not governing style, George HW Poppy Bush sort of played on this - knowing he could not be a great communicator Reagan but convincing enough people that he was a humble servant of the nation.

[pangaia]

85. That is why I now support Bernie Sanders.

[mylye2222]

13. Siding with the OP

It was unnatural and artificial. She looked like she was just reading the teleprompteur,not really living her words

[JaneyVee]

31. lolwut? there was no teleprompter.

[Segami]

46. Sure there was.....

They're teleprompters — The glass squares, which are called "beam splitters," are coated in such a way that they act as mirrors for the person at the podium while appearing transparent to people in the audience. They're carefully angled so that they pick up the text of the speech off TV monitors lying face up on the floor and reflect it toward the speaker.

[JaneyVee]

47. Where's the link for that pic? I saw no tele's and she was reading off paper on podium.

[Segami]

49. Can you NOT SEE the BEAM SPLITTERS

on each side of her?




http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/13/politics/hillary-clinton-roosevelt-island-rally/

[JaneyVee]

54. She was reading off paper on podium.

I know all about teleprompters, I work in the tv/film biz and she was reading off script at podium. Perhaps they chose not to use them. Either way, was a good policy speech.

[Segami]

56. Then you don't know your business....

she follows the teleprompter with her paper speech in case the prompter goes down, she can still read from the paper speech without losing her position in the speech.....its that simple.....

[JaneyVee]

65. I know, what I'm saying is....

She wasn't reading off a teleprompter, it seems she opted for paper. Perhaps glare from the sun. Either way, I think we can both agree this is a ridiculous debate to have.

[Segami]

86. She is READING from BOTH....

Teleprompter and paper speech......Every glance up to her sides allows her to continue reading her speech.

If Hillary was going to read her speech strictly from her papers, she would have never had a teleprompter set up on stage.


If you want to see what a stage set up looks like when someone wants to read their paper speech exclusively,......here it is...

[Marr]

103. It's a CONSPIRACY!

lol.

[madokie]

115. Heres the link from today

the teleprompters are clearly in sight the whole time. She was reading them as well as the paper on the podium

Here is the Speech in its entirety, who you gonna believe the video or your lying eyes

[fadedrose]

15. skills? what skills?

[ellisonz]

16. "This is constructive criticism."

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. How to win friends and influence people...

THIS is not an example of how to do it.

[fadedrose]

21. Diamondhead, pay no attention

You won me over as a friend. Maybe it's that we both like good speakers and will miss Obama, and that fact is starting to loom more and more.

[etherealtruth]

18. she actually did a really good job

She's not the orator her husband is ... very few people are. She doesn't need to be. Ronald Reagan was a horrific president, yet he was a very good orator

i was very impressed by her her speech today.


clearly, you were not. You began posting this immediately ... to each his own.

[diamondhead]

22. THANK YOU

Ronald Reagan was a horrific president, yet he was a very good orator

How do you think he convinced people to vote for him? He was arguably the second worst president in American history after George W. Bush. Yet people loved him, and people STILL DO love him? Why? Because he was a good orator. A fucking fantastic orator.

It's almost ALL that matters!

[pangaia]

87. I always thought RR was a horrible speaker.

He made me want to throw up.
It was not that he was a good speaker, it is that people are dumb.

[etherealtruth]

98. How do you explain "W' terrible orrator, terrible president

Obama is pretty good (in juxtaposition to his predecessor he appeared great, as he has a mastery of the English language and can speak from a place of intelligence)


Clinton did a very good job.

We get it .... you came to DU to dis her .... I am not sure anyone really cares...? She did a very good job.

[fadedrose]

23. I really should not comment.

I was blessed today.

About the time Mrs. Clinton took the microphone, no kidding, I fell asleep. Sound asleep. I woke up to a caller on C-Span who didn't like her, then a few others. One lady did like her.

That's all I got out of it today. They wasted money if I was supposed to be influenced. Any comments I've made about her speechwriting ability or presentation are based on past performance, before as someone said, "she improved since 2008."

But I'm happy for supporters who liked it.

[JaneyVee]

29. LOL.

How did you turn her speech into a waste of money for not influencing you? Hilarious.

[etherealtruth]

91. I am going to support the Dem candidate

I enjoy seeing them all do well.

Scott Walker is the Koch brother's chosen one ... I applaud any and all of the Dems. They have all done well .... more importantly they are all infinitely better than anyone on the republican side.

[madokie]

116. No she actually didn't!

[CherokeeDem]

19. She did an excellent job today.....

No one is going to claim Hillary is an orator on the level of Obama or her husband. O'Malley certainly isn't a great speaker either nor is Bernie. His passion seems to make up for his skills. Can we not get past these petty discussions? If the only thing you have to say about her speech is to criticize her delivery, then you don't have a lot to complain about.

[Evergreen Emerald]

24. Superficial bullshit

If all we want is a talking head for President, then America is in a world of hurt. We could go to Fox News for that.

[MoonRiver]

25. Haters gonna hate.

[diamondhead]

55. Are you going to pretend that the rest of America is like you?

A talking head IS all America wants, which is why America is ALREADY in a world of hurt. George W. Bush won two elections against two robotic, uninspiring candidates who couldn't deliver a good speech. Yes, it's superficial. Have you not noticed what the majority of people watch on TV?!

[suffragette]

71. Actually, Al Gore won.

You're stacking false premises like turtles - all the way down.

[Exilednight]

81. Orators have the best track record when it comes to

Accomplishing their agenda. The presidency is nothing but selling an idea to the American people.

30% will always love what the president has to say, 30% will always hate what the president has to say. It's the 40% in the middle that you have to sell the idea to.

Reagan and Bill Clinton could sell weed seeds to a farmer, convince him to grow them and then after the sprouted they'd convince the farmer it was Romaine lettuce. That's why they were effective, and they both knew how to take their case to the people.

Obama is a great orator when it comes to campaigning, but lousy when it comes to policy speeches. It is one of the major reasons he had a hard time selling the ACA.

People believe Obama when he campaigns, but if he has to try and explain policy issues he feels and sounds the same way as the OP says and feels about Hillary.

This very issue was heavily critiqued in 2008, and her delivery cost her the primary.

[hrmjustin]

26. Your concern has been noted.

[JaneyVee]

27. Hillary nailed it.

You're probably to used to Obama's magnificent speech style. Plus, she had no teleprompter.

[LittleBlue]

28. All her emotional moments seem badly scripted to me

Like super forced to the point of being cringeworthy. Been saying it for years. It's the main reason Obama came from nowhere to beat her. It makes her a poor speaker when authenticity can't be conveyed

[CharlotteVale]

97. +1 that's a good way of putting it.

[MissDeeds]

108. You summed it up perfectly

There is something cringeworthy in her delivery. You would think that in all the time she's been in the public eye, she could hone her public speaking skills.

[misterhighwasted]

30. This gets the TRASH THREAD of the day award.

[kimbutgar]

32. I thought she did a great job

You can't compare her to Obama, or Sanders she is Hillary.

[Historic NY]

33. Is Palin word salad more your speed...

Hillary did fine......get used to it.

[Thinkingabout]

34. Compared to the other potential for the 2016 election, she is in the first one or two speech givers.

[LiberalArkie]

35. I think HRC is just trying too hard to be an earthy, down home type person. She never has been that.

In Arkansas she tries that also and people saw through it. She should just try to be the educated successful woman that she is. She can't pull off "I am just one of you common people" thing and she should not try. Obama never tried, "I am one of you" speeches, I think he knew he couldn't pull it off. She needs to just get up on the stage and say what she wants to do and how she will do it. If she did that, then she would have it nailed.

[Man from Pickens]

36. and she will never see a friendlier crowd

(except while fundraising on Wall Street)

if this is the performance when every card can be perfectly stacked in her favor, this is going to be a very long campaign for those unfortunates who support her

[hrmjustin]

40. She will never see a friendlier crowd?

[DanTex]

38. I thought she did great today.

She's no Obama in the speech-giving category, but this was a good one.

[MohRokTah]

39. She spoke eloquently and brilliantly.

Haters gonna hate.

[fadedrose]

41. So do you speak elequently and brilliantly

why don't you run? You're a democrat, aren't you?

[MohRokTah]

45. I don't know if anybody else noticed this, but you can tell when somebody you are ignoring replies..

to one of your posts. It shows up at the top of the list in My Posts without any listing.

Just had to get that out there.

[MrMickeysMom]

50. Didn't know that...

I'll have to piss more people off and try it out!

[TeeYiYi]

61. My gawd, MrMickeysMom!...

...I NEVER get tired of that kitteh stretching his pinkies in your sig!



TYY

[MrMickeysMom]

69. You know what that little guy's stretchy legs REALLY are?

That's US…. never getting tired of seeking da TWOOF whilst we piss (some) people off in search of!

[TeeYiYi]

73. Well now...

...that was a little bit of fancy stretching you just did right there.

TYY

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

42. I don't care

Great public speakers are rare. Daddy Bush couldn't deliver a speech. Dubya made primitive grunts that passed for a speech. I hate politics and all the festivities in front of crowds, balloons, kissing babies, eating corndogs, and repeating the same old lines . I don't want a rousing speech. I wouldn't care if she were a deaf mute. All that matters to me is getting someone elected who will be somewhat liberal and send the evil conservatives back to the shadows where they belong. If Hillary stands the best chance of defeating the Reshit candidate, winning back the Congress, and, most importantly, appointing Supreme Court justices who will bring us back to the 21st century, then I'm all for her.

Yeah, I don't think speechifying is one of Hillary's strong suits but it doesn't matter to me. I don't want to be emotionally swept away by a candidate.

[Sheepshank]

43. Clearly you didn't listen to the whole speech before you posted this nonsense

The enthusiasm, cadence and empassioned words took a serious uptick.

[Lilith Rising]

90. Exactly what I was going to say.

Everybody (okay, almost everybody) starts off slow - what matters is if you pick up steam or not.

[Lisa D]

48. Honestly, I think she spoke from the heart.

And I can't wait to vote for her

[Quixote1818]

51. I support Sanders first and looked at her speech with an open-mind

I think she did average to above average. Certainly won't hurt her from what I could see and there were some nice moments where she really got the crowd going.

[JonLP24]

52. I didn't watch the speech

but robotic deliveries hits the nail of what I think of when I see Hillary Clinton. Bill Clinton was so excellent at public speaking that he probably could have won several consecutive terms and any time I ever felt strongly upset with Obama, hearing him at a public speaking event such as a press conference or anything really he was very calm & reassuring where I almost forgot his actions on policies but became more uninspiring over the two terms.

Gore I didn't see the first two things but uninspiring definitely. He seemed generally calm & relaxed during debates -- almost too relaxed where he was a little too honest which was a plus in my book but way too fair to Bush up-and-to including defending his heart and defending he didn't say what Bush expressed outrage over "he's implying that I have a dark heart" over something related to cuts to the Child Health Insurance program. Bush was a master of turning a debate question into a bumper slogan with the body movements and everything while Gore was more honest with how he handled questions & arguments. Bush would turn something like minority rights or hate crimes legislation and use that moment to bring up his "no child left behind" proposal. Gore requested from the moderator an opportunity to address the topic of education when the moderator shifted topics after the Bush answer (he should have changed the subject to address him on education) later which was never granted but he definitely needed to challenge him more. That was my only problem but the "like to have a beer" is exactly why he was chosen by the Roves & the Cheneys because they could never get elected to push through their greedy ideas.

Hillary Clinton does come across as phony ESPECIALLY when addressing issues is very little informed about but taking a strong stance (showing how ill-informed she is to people who are more informed on whatever the topic might be) but there are many other issues where she understands them very well and shows her smarts when she has great ideas that improve life. She has great ideas on how to improve corporate greed but the "sure thing" folks don't seem to understand she has a history of "gaffes", putting her foot in her mouth, so there is an opportunity that could present itself where she says something foolish therefore losing the narrative and the election. I never underestimate Republican marketing so you really have to be on top of things with your statements. Then there is a history of scandals real or imagined that will probably haunt her (the only ones I give an ounce of credibility are conflict of interests one and the war monger shit) in addition to her 47% unfavorable rating to 45% favorable (meaning already half the nation doesn't like her)

[boston bean]

57. Some people aren't use to hearing a woman giving a political speech in front of thousands

and to them it sounds odd after over 200 years hearing of men giving them.

[Lisa D]

58. +1

[diamondhead]

60. I wouldn't say her being a woman has anything at all to do with it

Elizabeth Warren gives a great speech. Hillary does not.

[bettyellen]

75. Yup.

[Marrah_G]

59. Strange, I always thought she was a good speaker. n/t

[Little Star]

62. Best damn speech I've heard in a very long time....

And you can bet your bippy I'm being honest. Loved her cadence and her message both.

[brooklynite]

63. "This is why people voted for George W. Bush over Al Gore"

Al Gore: 50,999,897
George Bush: 50,456,002

Care to try again?

[diamondhead]

66. I didn't say MORE people voted for Bush

But the electoral college was all that mattered, wasn't it?

At the end of the day, you have to focus on WHAT MATTERS. Oratory skills matter. More than you probably think.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

68. You're suggesting George Bush had oratory skills?

I hope you're not suggesting that.

[MADem]

78. Monkeyturd served two terms. Kinda ruins your little thesis, there, sport.

Nixon was no Demosthenes, either.

At the end of the day, we DO have to focus on what matters--you're having a tough time figuring that out, quite obviously.

[Blanks]

94. Bush was a lousy orator...

He spent the entire month of January practicing for his State of the Union address, and he still sucked.

Both Gore and Kerry beat him. The election was stolen both times. I've never heard anyone speak highly of Bush's oratory skill.

He was a moron and morons voted for him because he seemed like a 'regular' person, they liked him because he seemed like the guy sitting next to you on the bar stool. Except that the guy sitting next to you was probably smart enough not to choke on a pretzel.

[Scootaloo]

64. No, she's not the best speech-giver

She's better than Kerry ever was, though. And vastly better than any of the gibbering stumblefucks the Republicans will run.

Oratory is a skill. some people are better a it than others. And I hope your standard isn't set to Barack Obama, because that dude is one of the best orators I've ever seen.

I wouldn't bother calling this, of all things, one of Cliton's "weaknesses," becuase I don't vote for people based on their ability to maintain strong cadence.

[Hekate]

67. Fear. Uncertainty. Doubt.

Have we met before?

[Bobbie Jo]

76. Check. Check. Check.

Embracing the noob.

Enemy, enemy, friend, etc..

[mooseprime]

70. american politics can be so tiresome

i stopped posting a long time ago because of the kind of responses i see in this thread. people seem to delight in picking up the wrong part of someone's writing and then pile on like football fans: my team is awesome, your team sucks, nyah nyah nyah. black and white, all right or all wrong. reminds me of children arguing i did not you did so. it's astonishing that people have already picked their teams a year and a half out and are not going to consider anything that is said or done for all the remaining time, when in fact it's only just now beginning. novel idea: wait until you've heard some substantive debate and proposals of practical solutions before throwing all in with someone. issues and policy, not who gets the most valentines. let's challenge them all on everything now, during the courtship, or the marriage is going to be hell. diamondhead, good for you for speaking up. hope you can stay above all this ad hominem childishness.

[Joe Turner]

72. "I'm saying that's how she COMES OFF"

That's how she is and her problem is that she has a hard time concealing her true personality. If she wins the democratic primary she will go down to defeat in the general election. Have we had enough of this "it's my turn" nonsense and elect someone with fresh ideas.

[madamesilverspurs]

74. And how many days

before the speech did you have this written?

[sabrina 1]

77. Al Gore WON the popular vote, and of course the whole election which was stolen for Bush.

So that kind of blows your theory about his 'downhominess'.

And fyi, what actually does matter is what they DO, not so much what they say or how they say it, if it isn't backed up by action.

[Starry Messenger]

79. Oftentimes people are wrong about stuff here.

It happens: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026829255

[Rosa Luxemburg]

80. Baloney!

Hillary speaks well.

[roody]

82. Gore won. Bush stole it.

[rurallib]

83. what a bullshit post

I listened to the content and it was great.
Been on DU a week? welcome, I guess.

Democrats talking like Democrats scaring the bejezus out of the Kochs and their ilk. It's music to me.

[Phentex]

84. She's no Obama for sure...

but he was smooth as silk.

It did seem mechanical at first but I felt she got better as she went along. At least she doesn't sound like a preacher!

[winter is coming]

88. Be honest? She's not the best. She's not the worst.

I doubt this speech will hurt her, as it was merely a bag of platitudes and feel-good statements. Most candidates do that sort of thing for their kick-off speeches. If she goes on offering empty quips, that will hurt her. She's run for President before and it's surprising to no one that she's running again. If she doesn't have concrete ideas about what she hopes to do in office, or is unwilling to share them, that's going to catch up to her long before the primary season ends, and perhaps even before it begins.

[qazplm]

89. very few people are paying attention right now

so I don't see her poll numbers taking a hit.

I won't disagree that she has a charisma issue, but so do all of the republican candidates...not a single one of them has much of it either.

[HereSince1628]

93. But, wasn't today conceived and implemented to change that?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

92. She isn't a gifted public speaker

But neither was LBJ, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Bush Pere, and Geoge Walker Bush and they did just fine..


This is all subjective any way but most communications experts would rate a JFK, a Ronald Reagan and a Barack Obama highly. Their delivery was excellent.

Any way she's not running against herself... The only two good orators on the other side are The Huckster and The Cruz and neither are getting close to the nomination and even if they did their oratory can't compensate for how out of the mainstream they are...


BTW, the OP conflated emapthy with oratory. They are different skills. i thought bill Clinton was charismastic but an ordinary speaker...He was excellent at being empathetic.

[PADemD]

95. Welcome to DU, Diamondhead

I totally agree with your analysis. When Hillary speaks, she comes across as an attorney trying to convince a jury. At times, she hangs on a word as though she hasn't finished thinking about the rest of the sentence. It's very irritating. If she becomes President, the mute button on my remote will be getting a workout.

I'm getting the same impression of her that I had in 2008.

[LordGlenconner]

96. You think Bernie's an orator?

I have news: he's not. She's no Obama in that realm, but then again who is.

She did fine.

I thought you Bernie folks were all about substance anyway.

[Cha]

99. Until they're not.

[NanceGreggs]

102. ...

[kentuck]

101. I thought Hillary gave a very good speech today.

She can do better but it wasn't bad.

Although I have been a Bernie supporter for some time, I think Hillary is the frontrunner at this time. The little bird on your shoulder keeps repeating, "Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton, Bush-Clinton......"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

104. It might be a problem if her presumptive Republicant opponent was charismatic.

I don't see Bush lll, Walker, or Rubio lighting up a room.

[kentuck]

105. I don't think any of the Republicans can even come close to Hillary...

Bernie has a chance. Simply because of the ascendancy of progressivism. People are tired of the bullshit in Washington. They are looking for change.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

106. I hope you're right./NT

[Cheese Sandwich]

107. She sounds fake like a robot.

[Doctor_J]

109. you're not going to get any passion or spontaneity from hrc. She will read the poll tested

text that her writers put together. I think that the issues she's passionate about are those on which she aligns with the republicans, which of course she won't talk about On Most democratic issues she was on the republican side until recently. Hopefully we'll see some real debates to find out what she plans to do on important issues.

[doc03]

110. She isn't any Bill Clinton that's for sure n/t

[global1]

111. I Agree With You ......

she is a terrible speaker or reader of speeches. There is something about her voice that emits a sense of unbelievability to me. She doesn't sound sincere. She tends to speak in sound bytes - almost like she is spitting back that which is learned from focus groups. I have a problem listening to her when she speaks.

I don't know if she feels that she needs to project a Presidential personna and that is why she speaks like she does or if she just doesn't have the speechifying skills.

She needs to be herself when she talks and that would help her immensely. She should talk to us like she would be talking to a friend.

Listen to a Barbara Boxer speak. Or an Elizabeth Warren. Or Claire McCaskill. They all come off as very credible and real.

If there are any of Hillary's advisors reading this - you really need to work with her on he speaking skills. She is probably the person most qualified ever to be President - based on her experience - but she needs to learn how to speak to her constituents. Granted she got very far in her career to this point. I just don't see her coming off good should she have a fireside chat with us.

I admit - she has a hard act to follow - because President Obama is the best. When I hear him talk or when he is answering a question or wanting to educate us - I feel like he is talking directly to me. I just don't get that same vibe from Hillary.

I offer this as constructive criticism. Please don't shoot the messenger here.

[BlindTiresias]

112. She is not a talented speaker

Which is fine if the person has substance or real thought to their positions, but she doesn't have that either.

A soulless zombie shambling the earth in search of a constituency is the best way I could describe her overall character.

[quadrature]

113. every breath was timed ...every hand gesture was practiced ...

nothing is left to chance.
she went thru this speech ten times or more.

the only thing not timed are 'applause interruptions',
there is some wiggle room for that.

next comes here standard stump speech.

what you see is what you get.

[AtomicKitten]

114. Phoney and superficial. Rah-rah.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

118. Another day, another Hillary Clinton Whipping Post thread.

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[hrmjustin]

120. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com?com=profile&uid=323617&sub=trans

[hrmjustin]

119. diamondhead has been shown the door.

http://www.democraticunderground.com?com=profile&uid=323617&sub=trans

[Andy823]

121. Good.

Their agenda was so obvious, yesterday they attack Clinton, today they were attacking O'Malley, how long before they went after Bernie? The thing that really gets me is the number of people who actually rec'd this thread.

[hrmjustin]

122. Obvious troll was obvious.

[Veldrick]

124. She is ok

There are worse.

[rocktivity]

125. Precisely what made this commerical so effective 8 years ago

If you don't know your history, you're doomed to repeat it...


rocktivity

[spanone]

127. your opinion is your opinion. not mine. honest.