Hillary Clinton is One Tough Mother

[Skinner]

One Tough Mother
Hillary Clinton’s campaign is going to sell her as a fighter like no other.

By John Dickerson, Slate

Tough mother. That’s both the theme of Hillary Clinton’s big speech on Saturday and the emerging theme of her campaign. According to a preview of her remarks, Clinton will talk about her mother’s struggles and how they guide her and her campaign, which the candidate has fashioned around four tough fights. Since announcing her campaign in April, at every stop Clinton has said she will advocate for families, remove money from politics, increase wages for the middle class, and protect America. How is she going to do these things? She’s going to fight.

Read more here.

[rock]

1. Here's to Hillary!

[Arkansas Granny]

2. She's going to fight and she knows how it's done.

[MoonRiver]

5. What does one have to do with the other?

[jeff47]

10. Well, typically "Tough Mother" is followed by another word that starts with F.....

So I'm guessing he's equating it to the spoonerism that got NYC_SKP banned.

[MoonRiver]

11. That never entered my mind, but thank you for your concern.

[bunnies]

13. I'd guess they did that intentionally.

That phrase is just too common for it not to be implied.

[thesquanderer]

22. The difference between this and the NYC_SKP post

Both bring vulgar terms to mind. The difference is that NYC_SKP's implied vulgar term was sexist (i.e. generally seen as demeaning to women), whereas the implied vulgar term here is merely vulgar.

[jeff47]

26. They have an odd way of showing that difference.

Didja know there are 4,950 posts with NYC_SKP's vulgar term on DU? You too can use the site search in the top-right of this very page to keep track.

It has only gone up by about 3,000 posts since NYC_SKP was PPR'ed.

[MoonRiver]

32. What do you mean by "they?"

Are you aware that the author of this OP is Skinner, one of the founders of this site.

[jeff47]

37. Yes, I'm well aware.

Are you aware of the idea of inconsistent enforcement?

[MoonRiver]

40. I do not believe it is happening here.

[thesquanderer]

118. Other differences

re: "Didja know there are 4,950 posts with NYC_SKP's vulgar term on DU?"

...but they were not directed at Hillary Clinton (or, likely, any prominent female Dem).

Also, while the two terms are vulgar, one is insulting, and the other is (in this context) intended as a compliment.

[jeff47]

139. So all 4,949 other cases were not insulting.

Yeah. Right.

[thesquanderer]

140. What?

I don't know where that came from.

I'll try re-phrasing the post you were replying to.

1. Most of the 4950 C* references were not aimed at Hillary, NYC_SKP's was

2. NYC_SKP's use of an implied vulgarity (in this case C*) was intended to insult Hillary; the OP's use of an implied vulgarity (in this case MF) was intended to compliment Hillary.

Those are the other differences I spoke about. Your reply to those points doesn't make sense. Maybe you somehow misinterpreted what I said, hopefully that clarifies.

[jeff47]

141. So are you arguing it is good to have a "can't insult Clinton" rule

that does not apply to any other woman?

[thesquanderer]

142. No, I didn't say that either.

I am only talking about why this OP, obliquely referring to HC as a MF, is different from the NYC_SKP's post that obliquely referred to HC as a C*; and therefore why someone might consider one to be bannable but not the other. That's all.

I have stated no position on whether NYC_SKP should have been banned for making that reference toward HC; nor have I stated any position on whether anyone else who uses that word should be banned (regardless of who it is directed toward). That's not the topic being discussed here.

[MissDeeds]

53. The term here is definitely sexist

But of course NYC_SKP is a Bernie supporter, so there is that.

[diamondhead]

55. Seriously?

Motherfucker is sexist? You better give Samuel L. Jackson a call.

[MissDeeds]

56. Good one

[pamela]

131. hahahaha

Or Isaac Hayes. He'd say, "Shut your mouth."

[still_one]

73. Not even comparable

[MissDeeds]

77. We'll have to agree to disagree

[DemocratSinceBirth]

92. How is it sexist?/NT

[Xithras]

136. "Motherf****r" was originally a slur against men, not women.

It literally meant "A man who would f**k his own mother". Or, in other words, a cruel and heartless person who has no morals and would do anything for his own gain or pleasure, and who has no problems hurting people along the way.

Look up the etymology of the word.

Today it's morphed to simply mean "hardass" or is used as an expletive in a shitty situation, but I have a hard time understanding how it can be sexist. It's never been a slur against mothers specifically, or women in general.

[bunnies]

102. We agree. nt

[MissDeeds]

35. +1

I thought "Tough Mother" was offensive, but I don't make the rules here.

[Duckhunter935]

52. Selective outrage, I think

[MissDeeds]

54. Without question

[treestar]

43. I didn't think of that

I suppose it has to do with pre-loaded anger always ready to fire off.

[greymattermom]

60. not at all, it's the dura that protects your brain

At least that's the way I think of it. Dura Mater=tough mother.

[still_one]

7. What the heck are you talking about? The ny skip incident was a TOS issue

This is simply a thread you can agree or disagree with

[MohRokTah]

12. That was completely uncalled for.

[geek tragedy]

16. .

[boston bean]

4. One thing I have no doubt of with hillary.

She won't take any shit from republicans.

[MoonRiver]

6. She's been fighting those scum bags for 25 years and she always wins!

[JDPriestly]

38. When did she win?

She lost when she tried to win on healthcare.

She is still having to answer their stupid charges about her telephone and e-mail accounts and her "Benghazi" whatever.

I think she is making a big mistake with this tough gal approach.

But we shall see.

People see in Elizabeth Warren a fighter for the middle class and for fairness. I think Hillary is trying to grab that image that has made Warren so popular and run on it. We shall see how effective this is.

What Hillary may not understand is that the kind of toughness and righteous anger that has made Warren so beloved comes naturally to Warren. Warren doesn't make her money by giving speeches at $20,000 a pop to Wall Street. Warren's life and her claimed views and the things she fights for are consistent with her image as a tough but motherly woman.

So far this image of Hillary as a "tough mother" doesn't work for me.

I think she needs to demonstrate that she has a sense of humor and can relate to people well. This does not do it for me.

[Divernan]

89. HRC's speeches were $200,000 a pop, not $20,000

[GCP]

122. What you said, JD

Hillary has been cozying up to corporate interests for years. Suddenly Warren comes along and shines a light on the whole corrupt mess that is congress and Hillary finds common cause. I don't buy it.
She'd probably make a decent president, and I'd vote for her if she were the candidate, but I got put off her by her tactics in the last presidential race when her campaign went dirty on Obama.

[shenmue]

44. Ye-es!

[leftofcool]

20. Correct!

[BlancheSplanchnik]

24. :)

I like both candidates. Either of them would be good for US PEOPLE, I think.

And they both can kick repuke ass, I'm guessing. Hillary's known about the vast rw conspiracy for a long time.

[madokie]

34. Why would she have too

They're pretty much in the same corner best I can tell

[MohRokTah]

8. Barack Obama has been the bet president of my lifetime.

I look forward to Hillary Clinton surpassing that!

[NCTraveler]

15. I truly believe she can build off his accomplishments....

If elected.

[Hoyt]

29. Me too.

[MoonRiver]

14. I'm finally going to get the hope and change I wanted in 2008!

[NCTraveler]

18. I really don't know how you can say that....

And support Hillary. They are amazingly similar ideologically. If Obama did not give you the change from Bush that you were looking for, Hillary won't. I say this very respectfully.

[MoonRiver]

21. My preference was Hillary, which was all I meant.

Although I believe she would have handled the Iraq/Syria crisis better, and we might have gotten single payer. Even if we didn't she probably would have worked much harder for it. I'm NOT an Obama hater, btw. I usually support him here.

[JDPriestly]

39. "she would have handled the Iraq/Syria crisis better"?

She was handling the Iraq/Syria crisis when it was building up.

She tried to get a healthcare system during Bill Clinton's presidency. She failed.

Why should she have been able to do what Obama either could not or did not want to do which is get a public option or Medicare for all? She failed her first try. What do you think she could have done better than Obama?

[stonecutter357]

61. you seem concerned

[StevieM]

97. There wasn't a fillibuster-proof majority when Bill Clinton was president.

And the thought of threatening to go through budget reconciliation hadn't yet become legitimate among party members.

Obamacare was pretty unpopular when it passed. Obama had to get the House to pass the Senate Bill word for word. He was able to do that because the party understood that it had to be done.

In 1994 the Dems didn't understand that. They barely understood to pass the Clinton Budget in 1993, with its tax hikes on the rich. And if they had understood that....it wouldn't have mattered. We didn't have the 60 votes.

There was nothing Hillary could have done IMO to produce a different result.

[DonCoquixote]

100. really?

Hillary did Bipartisanship back before Obama did. For me, the silver lining of her presidency will be this: she will lurch far right, throw many of her people under the BUS, and those not under the bus will twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain why she just HAD to lurch right. Right after she lets Keystone XL get built, the reality might sink in. I sure as hell do not expect her to keep us out of war, or to defend my social security, as her friends Erskine Bowles and Lady Rothschild both want it for themselves.

[Iliyah]

17. K & R

I never would have believed in my lifetime I would see a "Black" man become President of the United States of America. Now I'm a believer that a "women" will be the next President of the United States of America.

[JDPriestly]

41. I really want a woman as president, but I just cannot in good conscience vote for Hillary.

Margaret Thatcher was a woman, and she did permanent harm in Great Britain.

I really want a woman as president, but just being a woman is not enough.

I will be watching Hillary's campaign, but at this point, I just cannot vote for her. I do not trust her judgment and she seems to me to be very opportunistically approaching her campaign.

I want to know what she really, really thinks about the TPP and the XL pipeline and H1-B visas and many other controversial issues on which I suspect that she does not share my views.

[boston bean]

46. We know!!

[JDPriestly]

49. Thanks. At least I'm getting my points across.

I do wish we could have a woman president. But not Hillary.

Elizabeth Warren? Yes. But not Hillary.

Do you have children or grandchildren?

I can't tell you how many times I have read, "But Not The Hippopotamus."

And for the sake of clarification and my reputation and my spot on DU, I am not suggesting that Hillary is a hippopotamus. I am just recovering from a visit from my grandchildren.

Do not mean to offend or insult anyone. Hillary would be the first to understand.

[BainsBane]

112. Right, better someone who was a Republican into middle age

during the Reagan years and it's war on working Americans and allowing viral genocide against gay men. Naturally you all prefer her to someone who has worked for Democratic causes and constituencies her entire adult life.

But hey, Elizabeth Warren validates your anger, and we know that is so much more important than basic civil rights, poverty, union busting, and any of the other issues Warren had no trouble siding with Republicans on.
Just as you have no trouble helping the GOP regain the presidency should the American people have the nerve to exercise their Democratic rights to vote for a candidate of their choosing rather than yours. That of course is your right. You are free to vote for whomever you choose or not vote at all. The part that pisses me off is people who insist they will not under any circumstances vote for a Democrat (Sanders is not a Democrat, and has not changed his party affiliation) claim to be "real Democrats." When you won't vote Democrat, you relinquish your right to call yourself a Democrat.

[Iliyah]

51. In good conscience I'm voting for her

because I do trust her judgment.

[totodeinhere]

123. I agree. We need to break the glass ceiling but HRC is not the woman to do it.

Where is she on the debate over TPP? Why hasn't she let her stand on this very important issue be known? On the other hand, Senators Warren and Sanders have left no doubt where they stand.

[Coventina]

19. "Shut your mouth!"

Sorry, that's what popped in my head!!

Don't kill me!
It's a "Shaft" reference!!!

[ismnotwasm]

23. Heh!

[cyberswede]

25. LOL! nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

28. Who's the cat who won't cop out,

When there's danger all about?

Who is the woman, who would risk her neck for her sister woman?

[MADem]

31. Hmmm~! I remember that song!!!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

96. Well, sure, what else could follow the word "Mother" ...

... unless you're Rahm Emanuel.

[hay rick]

107. My first thought.

Then I checked out the song lyrics and it's "bad mother" in Shaft, not "tough mother."

[leftofcool]

27. Kudos to Hillary!

[Duckhunter935]

30. Nope

[AwakeAtLast]

42. You don't think she's tough?

I don't know how.

[Duckhunter935]

45. I think she

Follows the money.

[stonecutter357]

62. .

[MissDeeds]

66. I think you're right

[DawgHouse]

33. A strong woman, indeed!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

36. Now let's see if she focuses that toughness against Liberals instead of Republicans.

[Thinkingabout]

47. She is tough and strong. Both will be needed.

[SunSeeker]

48. K & R

[SheilaT]

50. I am likewise rather offended by the

OP considering what so often comes after the word mother in similar contexts.

I have a feeling that if I were an actual fan of Hillary Clinton I'd be even more offended.

[MissDeeds]

57. Okay, who's going to alert on this???

[Duckhunter935]

63. It would be a waste

Some are more equal than others

[AlbertCat]

58. Hmmmmmm.....

I find this machismo-esque posturing discouraging....and almost right wing.

It sounds slogan-y and fake.


I sure hope things get better with her before next year!

[stonecutter357]

59. K&R!

[Unknown Beatle]

64. Hillary will talk...

Actions speak louder than words. Yes, she will talk tough, but that's about all she'll do. Her actions is what I'm listening to, and she doesn't have a very good track record.

Politicians that want to be elected will say whatever the voting public wants to hear, but, once elected, they will forget about all the rhetoric they espoused. Hillary is such a person.

[DirtyHippyBastard]

93. +1

[dreamnightwind]

65. This is sad

Marketing marketing marketing, not much else.

[Duckhunter935]

69. Yep

I agree

[truebrit71]

67. So this is officially Hillary Underground now?

Good to know...

[Duckhunter935]

70. careful, you will get alerted on

can't speak unkindly of the anointed one.

[MissDeeds]

76. I have been wondering that too

I came here years ago believing it was Democratic Underground , that it was pro Democrat, with no sides being taken; the posters could just discuss and debate the issues and the candidates without the site admins weighing in or asserting their influence. To me, that is what a site such as this should be. Sadly, that no longer seems to be the case. The admins seem to interject themselves into the discussion and promote their candidate. I really think DU will suffer from this and many posters will leave. I hate to see this happening.

If this is going to be a pro Hillary site, or Hillary Underground, the admins should be honest enough to say that. If not, they should just back off and let the posters post and debate unencombered.

[Cali_Democrat]

82. Nobody is preventing you from debating the issues or supporting your own candidate....

as long as you follow the TOS, I'm not sure what the problem is.

[Cali_Democrat]

80. Feel free to start your own website. nt

[JI7]

110. that's like complaining about discussion of the super bowl on a sports forum

[Codeine]

121. Skinner's not allowed an opinion?

I don't see any difficulties being encountered here by people who support Sanders.

[Joe the Revelator]

126. Come on now.....as much as I am against Hillary as our nominee...

this is a silly overreaction.

[KamaAina]

68. Is she being mean to Chelsea again?

[raindaddy]

71. Tough mother, are they serious?

Sounds like her consultants are following in Momma Grizzly's paw prints... What audience is this supposed to be focused on?

[Duckhunter935]

84. Ouch, that hurts

[Orsino]

99. 'Murka

A nation in which the first female front-runner cannot afford to be associated with femininity in the eyes of male voters. I think that we'll see some Sec. Clinton's greatest strengths--empathy and common sense--deliberately hidden behind the adjective "tough." This same American worship of the illusion of strength has been a great driver, I think, of her hawkishness.

It's sad, but Sec. Clinton does not have the luxury a male candidate would of moderating speech. She will be "tough" until she retires from politics.

[R B Garr]

101. The article provides this context:

"One story she tells is of her mother’s advice after Clinton came home crying after being bullied: “There’s no room for cowards in this house.” That’s one tough mother."

[fbc]

72. Blah blah blah! stop telling us stories! Tell us your positions coward!

story time is over.

[still_one]

74. Who are referring to as coward?

[randys1]

79. Never thought of Hillary as a coward. As secty of State or Senator, she

not once gave me that impression.

She is too friendly with Wall Street for sure, but coward?

nah

[still_one]

85. That is why I asked, it wasn't clear to me, and I agree, she is no coward, as are many women who

have had to fight for everything. Just looking at her being interrogated by Congress on Bengazi is an example

One does not have to agree with someone to recognize they are strong.

[Duckhunter935]

86. must have been her under all of that gun fire

at the airport she said she endured.

Clinton says she 'misspoke' about sniper fire
(CNN) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton said she "misspoke" last week when she gave a dramatic description of her arrival in Bosnia 12 years ago, recounting a landing under sniper fire.

Clinton was responding to a question Monday from the Philadelphia Daily News' editorial board about video footage of the event that contradicted her assertion that her group "ran with our heads down" from the plane to avoid sniper fire at the Tuzla Air Base.

Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for rival Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, said the Bosnia claim was part of "a growing list of instances in which Sen. Clinton has exaggerated her role in foreign and domestic policymaking."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/25/campaign.wrap/index.html?iref=hpmostpop

[Divernan]

90. Right! She landed under sniper fire in Bosnia, after all!

[trof]

75. One Tough Mother?

As in 'Motherf*ck*r' ?
I dunno. Doesn't set well with me.
I lean more towards 'compassionate'.

[Rex]

106. They are shooting for the moderates on both sides imo.

I mean come on, red arrow to the right? Blue H supporting the arrow...that is like a 'shiny button' to a broad range of the populace. So is sloganeering.

[AtheistCrusader]

78. Meh

seems a little like borderline sexism.

She's qualified, and it has nothing to do with her experience as a mother. She's a lawyer and an accomplished politician in her own right.

Bringing this into it is an implicit negative for female politicians that do not have children. Don't need to go there.

I'm going to vote for her if she's the nominee regardless, but this branding strategy does nothing for me.

[underpants]

81. Very clever. Let the listener finish the line.

Well done Team Hillary.

[ronnykmarshall]

83. Shush yo' mouth .....

We can dig it.

[cyberswede]

87. Um...

American Thinker: Sarah Palin Is One Tough Mother
https://sarahpalininformation.wordpress.com/2010/02/17/american-thinker-sarah-palin-is-one-tough-mother/

God, Guts & Sarah Palin: One Tough Mother
http://barbaricthoughts.blogspot.com/2010/02/one-tough-mother.html

Sarah Palin, one tough mama
http://www.salon.com/2009/07/07/palin_motherhood/

Sportsman Channel: One Tough Mother
http://us4palin.com/sportsman-channel-one-tough-mother/

[Rex]

105. They are going for the moderate votes on both sides, saw this one coming a while back.

Why ya think the arrow goes to the right? I bet it works too, the DNC realized they can play the 'shiny button' game just as well as the GOP.

Not saying it's right or wrong, but I knew this was coming the moment I saw her logo.

[Agony]

88. "Hillary Clinton’s campaign is going to sell her"

yeah… that is the problem. We do not need a fracking sales job

#disappointed

[MissDeeds]

98. And she can be bought

[kentuck]

91. Good video!

[sulphurdunn]

94. She sure picked the right

time to become a progressive. Timing is everything when you're running for president.

[BainsBane]

114. You obviously don't know her record

and prefer to repeat false internet memes fed to you by the RW hit squad. But hey, if it promotes the interests of the GOP, it's all worth it in the end.

Single payer, not progressive. Women's rights as human rights, not progressive. Aggressive enforcement of Voting Rights, not progressive. Working for the Children's Defense Fund, not progressive. Ensuring medical care for first responders after 9/11, not progressive. Not here. Progressive is yelling for the TV cameras, validating your anger. A lifetime in public service devoted to the poor and disenfranchised, not progressive. But hey, get a couple of post offices named and that makes someone a progressive hero. Human trafficking, that doesn't rate. Post offices is where it's at. That's what true progressives care about.

[sulphurdunn]

120. She's a typical "Third Way" democrat,

progressive on many social issues but generally conservative on economics and hawkish on foreign policy. Since virtually all the Democratic presidential candidates have a left of center record on social policy, the examples you give are not reason enough to make her president. Her foreign policy record and cozy relationship with Wall Street are reason enough not to.

[BainsBane]

133. How is she conservative on economic issues?

Bumper sticker internet slogans are not policy differences. Just because you and your pals repeat something over and over again doesn't make it true.

What evidence do you have that Clinton is conservative on economic issues? I see her as more progressive than most of the people here who express a view of economic justice that seeks to restore the white middle-and upper-middle class back to what it sees as its rightful position atop the capitalist order. I looked at Sanders website and it gives no policy or proposals, simply a paragraph offering a critique that could have been written by anyone here.

I won't be voting for someone to validate your anger at Wall Street, particularly since I am not of the privileged economic class that even has any interaction with the bankers you all are so angry at. Nor will I stand with people who dismiss my basic rights as "Third Way," or worse. You all denigrate the basic civil rights of the majority of Americans, offer no economic alternatives, and repeat empty slogans. That is hardly convincing and in fact many here use those terms in ways that are purposefully alienating and exclusionary.


And as for being cozy with Wall Street. Another bumper sticker slogan that says nothing. Is that a reference to the present state of campaign finance that you refuse to concern yourself with and instead project it onto Clinton? Or to the fact that Wall Street was in fact in her Senatorial district? I find such slogans tiresome, particularly when they eschew any critique of capital itself. I'm guessing like many here you see Wall Street as worse than the merchants of death whose profits Sanders votes to protect. I myself believe murder profiteering is a worse crime than usury, and I find rhetoric about "corporate" this and that rings hollow when it excludes merchants of death, or any other business or capital you all happen to find useful. Voting against gun control promotes war at home, a war that has taken over 1.4 million lives since 1968. I think voting with the GOP on gun issues is unconscionable. But then again, I differ from many in valuing human rights, life, and civil rights above the pocket books of the upper-middle class. You will vote for your interests, I vote for mine.

So by all means, you vote based on your labels and bumper sticker slogans. I will vote in favor of my own interests. They clearly are not the same as yours, and I am done being insulted by people who insist they have the right to compel the rest of us to do their bidding. You have one vote, and it doesn't include mine.

[sulphurdunn]

138. Try saying all that with half as many words.

Drop the hyperbole and ad hominem pot shots. Maybe it will make some sense then. Right now it's just an angry diatribe. These people we're talking about are politicians. Most of them wouldn't piss on either of us if we were on fire. Don't forget that. Relax.

[hrmjustin]

95. Always glad to see you posting in GD anf the HRC room Skinner.

[Cha]

103. She is a fighter.. I've seen that. More need to be aware of it.. thanks Skinner

[Bonobo]

104. Interesting since the term "mother" used this way is usually followed by fuck***.

Obviously a conscious choice to get "street"-ish.

In concert, blues musicians typically don't say "for ya" at the end, just sayin'

[Doctor_J]

108. same slogan as the Wasilla Witch

I wonder if she'll ever try to engage liberals as hard as she's courting republicans.

[senseandsensibility]

109. I somehow doubt it.

.

[PowerToThePeople]

116. There is this

but I do not think it was her slogan.

[Bobbie Jo]

111. Skinner

K&R

But looking at this thread I gotta say, you have the patience of a saint.

[eridani]

115. When will she be tough enough to come out against TPP? n/t

[Scuba]

117. Just what we need! Margaret Thatcher!

[NCTraveler]

119. Perfect parody of the purity brigade.

Thanks, I needed the laugh. They are the same!!!!!!! Margaret Thatcher!!!!! Some are foolish enough to buy into is. I like how you mock them.

[darkangel218]

124. I haven't posted here in a while but,

Huge Unrec.

Have a nice day.

[pintobean]

128. How are things going?

Is everything okay? I guess you've decided to just stay over at the other site. I really hope that works out for you.

[Make7]

129. "I'm not banned from DU, but I will never go back there again. Screw them" - 6/6/15

http://www.discussionist.com/?com=view_post&forum=1022&pid=12695

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&q=cache:K5pcT-rptcoJ:http://www.discussionist.com/102212695#top

[totodeinhere]

125. A tough mother would be tough enough to come out and let her views be known on

TPP. That she hasn't to me is a sign of weakness. If you want a tough mother, I give you Senator Elizabeth Warren.

[In_The_Wind]

130. I predicted her run for office when she was the First Lady living in the White House.

[JonLP24]

132. What does the wink imply?

Often it means the statement is misleading or untrue. Usually sneaky or tricky.

Remove money in politics by having a Super PAC? I'm sure that's just for the election so she can rid of the Super PACs after but I'd appreciate a more consistency with their convictions.

[Lancero]

137. Jury results, post #127

On Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:46 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

it has barely been over a week since you demanded to be banned
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6828966

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

I'm not particularly a fan of darkangel, but "nobody missed you" seems excessively personal and really, just unnecessary.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:01 PM, and the Jury voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: That wasn't very nice.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ridiculous alert.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Personal attacks has no place in DU. Remove.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Honestly, I'm of two minds on this.

First off is that Kalis comment is borderline to being a personal attack.

However, after looking at DA's hidden posts here, I'm very inclined to agree with Kali's comment - Given just how aggressive DA is, I think Kali is correct in saying that no one missed them.

Still though, the comment is borderline to a personal attack. But I have to agree with you that there was no legitimate need for Kali to put that into the post. So minus a legitimate need, the only use I can see for that comment is as a attack, or a intentional attempt to provoke DA. So for this, I'm voting to hide.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No need to get personally insulting. It make DU suck.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I agree with alerter. It's unnecessarily rude and mean.

[Motown_Johnny]

143. I hate when they write the punchlines themselves.

Mark my words, if the campaign tries to run with this one it will be a recurring punchline on late night shows throughout the campaign.