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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:11 PM Jun 2015

Attending a Pool Party While Black





WASHINGTON -- When Miles Jai Thomas arrived at a party at the Craig Ranch North Community Pool in McKinney, Texas, on Friday night, the pool was open to everyone -- until a security guard showed up and removed black partygoers from the area.

“Then he started making up rules to keep us out,” Thomas, 15, told The Huffington Post.

A white woman at the pool started making racist comments, Thomas said, such as telling black teens at the party to get used to the bars outside the pool because that’s all they were going to see.

Grace Stone, 14, who is white, told BuzzFeed News that she and friends objected to an adult woman making racist comments to other teens at the party and that the woman turned violent. ...................(more)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/07/texas-pool-party_n_7530502.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013




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Attending a Pool Party While Black (Original Post) marmar Jun 2015 OP
Sick, sick, sick. Solly Mack Jun 2015 #1
Thank goodness for cell phones gollygee Jun 2015 #2
Yup Egnever Jun 2015 #105
If only those black teens were white bikers. JaneyVee Jun 2015 #3
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #48
I couldn't watch chervilant Jun 2015 #4
I saw the other post on this and agree with you olddots Jun 2015 #5
Sorry to hear this and hope the community has enough people who want to bridge the divide. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #6
It's Texas, I wouldn't bet on it. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #130
Swimming While Black? Rex Jun 2015 #7
Good question Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #26
Die malaise Jun 2015 #50
Sadly malaise, sheshe2 Jun 2015 #77
Beat me to it. malthaussen Jun 2015 #143
Dying. :sarcasm: - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #92
Add swimming to "$#*! Black People Can't Do!" KamaAina Jun 2015 #122
Play sports, but Jamastiene Jun 2015 #128
Fuck, we can't walk; we can't talk; we can't question why... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #134
+1 million! nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #149
Did you notice how those two cops arrested the commander on site for assault with a deadly weapon? MohRokTah Jun 2015 #8
THIS. Earth_First Jun 2015 #22
In fiction... qwlauren35 Jun 2015 #110
It's not just fiction. cwydro Jun 2015 #137
+ a brazillion! nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #150
This 99th_Monkey Jun 2015 #9
Sounds like the white racist woman punched treestar Jun 2015 #10
I'm waiting to hear why she wasn't charged FreakinDJ Jun 2015 #109
Disgusting pokerfan Jun 2015 #11
I read some where he is on yuiyoshida Jun 2015 #13
Paid leave. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #14
The bastard has all his weight on this stage left Jun 2015 #18
Big brave kkkop hifiguy Jun 2015 #69
"That's some fine police work, Lou" pokerfan Jun 2015 #71
She was just 14! That is a very young teen. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #152
She is just a child. sheshe2 Jun 2015 #78
I hope she can sue and win. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #133
Behold 4 centuries of white male supremacy, all in one photo. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #96
This whole situation is a very sick situation. According to another post the jwirr Jun 2015 #12
The other cops should have arrested him gwheezie Jun 2015 #15
Those other cops are what's known as "bad cops". MohRokTah Jun 2015 #16
That's the training they need, and the environment that needs to exist gollygee Jun 2015 #17
This is exactly right. Give the cops the right training, and they'll hedgehog Jun 2015 #28
They might have been afraid. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #131
He tripped over that tree root, which is why he rolled, BUT I bet he was tblue37 Jun 2015 #155
He was the ranking officer there. No doubt that was a factor, too. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #153
Outrageous, they're lucky they have it recorded. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2015 #19
America needs some serious help. SoapBox Jun 2015 #21
The police need to be trained in how to deal with the public Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #29
They are trained. malthaussen Jun 2015 #144
Truer words have seldom been uttered. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #98
So sad lovemydog Jun 2015 #23
Was the "white woman" arrested for inciting a riot? n/t jtuck004 Jun 2015 #24
That's the big question. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #116
I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #132
I know we need to see the videos of this passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #25
OMG, OMG! Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #27
Insane racist cop losing his shit at a pool party whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #30
Jesus. :( Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #31
What's up with Raging Bull there? DirkGently Jun 2015 #32
A cop is supposed to calm down a situation, not escalate it. SunSeeker Jun 2015 #33
jesus, this is disgusting. pumpkin_lifter Jun 2015 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #35
Wow. EEO Jun 2015 #36
My wife and I are leaving Texas. Its just plain too stupid here. marble falls Jun 2015 #37
It is tough living in Texas as times Gothmog Jun 2015 #38
Depends where you live, I guess TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #67
It isn't just Texas awoke_in_2003 Jun 2015 #135
Photos of the racist civilians involved MohRokTah Jun 2015 #39
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #44
I've been wondering the same thing. n/t jaysunb Jun 2015 #70
Honestly when I watched the video Egnever Jun 2015 #104
Maybe that is the security guard from the pool (??). nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #156
If those people don't get arrested IronLionZion Jun 2015 #151
On another note: Thankyou MIRT for cleaning up the two spills in this aisle, don't know.... marble falls Jun 2015 #40
I'll take the hide JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #41
May I proudly join you? - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #100
Yes you may JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #123
Provide evidence that one phil89 Jun 2015 #121
There's a video. I watched it. yardwork Jun 2015 #146
Thanks for the link, it shows the precipitating incident on video uppityperson Jun 2015 #42
Will it be possible to sue the racist trouble-makers? Joe Chi Minh Jun 2015 #43
That was a gun the LEO had in his hand when he did the barrel roll in the beginning of the vid uponit7771 Jun 2015 #45
Yeah, the barrel roll. Blue_In_AK Jun 2015 #66
+1, I thought it was a spoof vid or something... the cop is wearing white socks like Blart Cop or uponit7771 Jun 2015 #75
Yeah, real Rambo move. He must be so proud. yardwork Jun 2015 #147
Hard to watch Thespian2 Jun 2015 #46
Geesh TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #47
The kids had guest passes for a birthday party at the pool. eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #49
According to the police statement, they weren't supposed to be there. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #55
Cops lie. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #56
A community pool that sells birthday party sessions gollygee Jun 2015 #59
Right... those neighborhoods in DFW are usually racially mixed too.. that's what's crazy, the kids uponit7771 Jun 2015 #61
My neighborhood in the Houston area is extremely mixed TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #65
I don't know of any community pool that "sells" birthday party sessions TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #62
I live in a gated community w/ a pool and I've never heard of selling jaysunb Jun 2015 #72
My community is definitely not gated :) TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #80
What? LeftOfWest Jun 2015 #108
Another video explained.. peace13 Jun 2015 #136
We have a community pool in my area gollygee Jun 2015 #112
I think we're talking about different setups TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #113
We've heard more info about this gollygee Jun 2015 #118
it's just a fucking pool with kids , what resulted should never have happened regardless of whether JI7 Jun 2015 #79
Way to cut through all the bullshit and pig-fucking rationalizations. My sincerest KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #99
Thank you. LeftOfWest Jun 2015 #106
Ugh. n/t LeftOfWest Jun 2015 #107
To me, and I'm not a cop gwheezie Jun 2015 #52
The black kids said they took off cause the cop had a gun and they didn't want to be shot, that's uponit7771 Jun 2015 #54
The cops were out of control gwheezie Jun 2015 #63
Wrong. The "cops" were not out control. jaysunb Jun 2015 #74
if they were well trained they would have arrested the out of control cop JI7 Jun 2015 #81
So how does that work in the field gwheezie Jun 2015 #84
The out of control guy is a senior officer. The 2 chevrons are rank jaysunb Jun 2015 #89
Its a difficult position gwheezie Jun 2015 #93
I see your point and agree it's horrible position to be jaysunb Jun 2015 #94
You weren't the one who created that mess. deurbano Jun 2015 #139
You are an unsung hero and have my sincerest appreciation and KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #101
You could have lost your license! TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2015 #114
He was obviously drunk gwheezie Jun 2015 #117
Unfortunately, the ONE cop that was out of control avebury Jun 2015 #160
Right??? It's not rocket science n/t arcane1 Jun 2015 #58
They had passe to be there for a party but too many POC were there for some racist bastards and uponit7771 Jun 2015 #53
Why do you assume that most of the kids didn't live in the neighborhood? yardwork Jun 2015 #148
Anyone else notice the guy in the beige shirt not being told to get down and stay out of the police uponit7771 Jun 2015 #51
Did you notice him touching those young girls, too? eom MohRokTah Jun 2015 #57
WOW!! Creepy, so this guy was just going through the scene and being ignored. This is a perfect... uponit7771 Jun 2015 #60
He said the kids made him run gwheezie Jun 2015 #68
Exactly. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #119
He rolled after tripping over the long tree root. His embarrassment was probably one tblue37 Jun 2015 #157
Fucking pigs!!! Actually, I take that back U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #64
:argh: WillyT Jun 2015 #73
There is an out of control gang member in that video. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #76
What the hell... Agschmid Jun 2015 #82
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2015 #83
+2 Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #159
UPDATE: Cop Added Video to His YouTube Playlist pokerfan Jun 2015 #85
That youtube page is now empty except comments to him. heh uppityperson Jun 2015 #87
Surprise, surprise, surprise... pokerfan Jun 2015 #88
+1 n/t jaysunb Jun 2015 #91
That screenshot is a major public service. SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #120
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #86
Cop who abused Black teenage girl has been suspended, probably only until everything blows over. sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #90
I hope the parents of those teens sue that town out of existence (or at least KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #103
Who is the big heavy-set white guy in the blue shorts and off-white KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #95
I wonder if that was their security guard? JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #125
“Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,” JI7 Jun 2015 #97
Jesus. historylovr Jun 2015 #102
the beginning where the Pig rolls down while running looks like something he did JI7 Jun 2015 #111
That's horrible! myrna minx Jun 2015 #115
I used to live in McKinney - so know the area well Lithos Jun 2015 #124
Doncha know? These teens are more dangerous than the Bandidos in Waco! muntrv Jun 2015 #126
That cop needs to be on a list of never hire this guy. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #127
Assclown Cop trips over his own two feet, and then loses his shit bottomofthehill Jun 2015 #129
I'm thinking he was doing a rambo barrel roll or something like Blart Cop ... this is soooo uponit7771 Jun 2015 #140
Fire his ass! This stupid cop has serious mental problems! Helen Borg Jun 2015 #138
what exactly did the black girl do? it looks like he was assaulting her for being black samsingh Jun 2015 #141
She was black and was in the vicinity of a racist cop, that's about it... the cop wasn't making any uponit7771 Jun 2015 #142
Maybe she said something he didn't like. malthaussen Jun 2015 #145
Fucking cops are out of control. n/t Humanist_Activist Jun 2015 #154
In a very real way this was as bad as all the other videos posted of cops out of control enigmatic Jun 2015 #158

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
4. I couldn't watch
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:23 PM
Jun 2015

more than a few seconds of the video. Our younglings are at ever increasing risk at the hands of hostile, racist cops.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
5. I saw the other post on this and agree with you
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:24 PM
Jun 2015

I wasn't there but it sure looks like a caucasion rascist reaction .

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. Sorry to hear this and hope the community has enough people who want to bridge the divide.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jun 2015

I'd feel terrible if this happened in my neighborhood.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Swimming While Black?
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:28 PM
Jun 2015

Is there any activity black people can do in America that they can feel free and safe to do?

Response to Rex (Reply #7)

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
143. Beat me to it.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jun 2015

But there's probably some law against that, too. After all, qui mori didicit, servire dedidicit. (Which is a great Latin quote from Seneca meaning "Who has learned to die has learned how not to be a slave.&quot

-- Mal

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
128. Play sports, but
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:54 PM
Jun 2015

that is honestly all I can think of to try to answer your question. Suburban white Americans love black athletes in high school and on up through college and pro....unless they start dating a white girl, then it's special PTA meetings and hoopla over nothing. So, sports, but even that is iffy. That's the only thing I can come up with.

It's a damn shame. Black kids don't stand a chance. I hope most of them can sue, but especially the girl in the swim suit. She was very obviously unarmed and not a threat. So were the other kids in the video. They were just kids who wanted to join a party they heard about, but she got really roughed up and kneed in the back. That had to have hurt. The guy the other two cops brought back had blood in his mouth.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
134. Fuck, we can't walk; we can't talk; we can't question why...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jun 2015

we're being followed; we can't visit our Dad; we can't talk on the phone; we can't break up fights; we can't swim; we can't have a bar-b-que; we can't question why we're being harassed by the very people we pay our hard-earned taxes to; we can't run; we can't play; we can't listen to music; we can't talk on the phone; we can't pick our kids up from school; we can't be pregnant; we can't play with toy guns; we can't be kids; we can't be Honor students going off to college; we can't smoke pot while, at the same time, the white kids mad at Obama for not legalizing it; we can't dress the way we want to; and even if we have Ph.D.'s, we can't enter into our own home peacefully; we can't own nice cars; we can't hold our hands up in surrender; we can't live in nice neighborhoods...

HELL...

WE CAN'T EVEN FUCKING BREATHE!!!!!!!!!

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. Did you notice how those two cops arrested the commander on site for assault with a deadly weapon?
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:34 PM
Jun 2015

Neither did I.

More evidence to dispel the myth of the good cop. There was not a single good cop on site, else the cop who flagrantly and blatantly committed assault with a deadly weapon (a felony) on unarmed teenagers would have been the only person in handcuffs.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
22. THIS.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:32 PM
Jun 2015

This.This.This.

Anyone who attempts to play the 'good cop' card is a cop fluffing apologist.

There isn't a SINGLE good cop that's been on patrol for longer than one shift who isn't complicit in this corruption!

The day I begin reading LBN stating that a cop has officially reported misconduct/assault by a fellow officer on a detained citizen is the day MY attitude on the subject will change.

Until then, I few EVERY cop with trust that is reluctantly placed in their authority to protect and serve...

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
110. In fiction...
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:46 AM
Jun 2015

the good cops who rat on the bad cops get killed.

I have a memory about a story (FICTION) I read where there was a woman cop who refused to "play nice". One night the other cops invited her to hang out with them. She thought it was a breakthrough. Instead they drugged her, raped her and beat her to death. There were cops who didn't participate, but they kept quiet.

I have no idea what pressure cops may be under to keep quiet about the nastiness of other cops. But I think it runs very, very deep.

When the death of Freddie Gray was inciting Baltimore, I talked to a cop's wife and she was very non-committal. I then talked to a Congresswoman, and she was very calm. She said "you have to change the culture of policing so that it's safe to identify bad cops".

I think that is what Loretta Lynch is trying to do. But it will be a while before we see results, and in the meantime, more people will die.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
9. This
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:39 PM
Jun 2015

“So a cop yelled 'get those motherfuckers' and they chased [us] with guns out. That's why in the video I started running,” Thomas said.

"I was scared because all I could think was, 'Don't shoot me,'" he said.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. Sounds like the white racist woman punched
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:43 PM
Jun 2015

a 19 year old black girl. So the police should have been looking for that white older woman. She's the one who broke the law.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
133. I hope she can sue and win.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jun 2015

That cop was out of control and escalated a situation that could have been handled just by talking to the kids to get their side of what happened.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. This whole situation is a very sick situation. According to another post the
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

cop in this has moved out of his house and the town. Racism in definitely a part of this. Add another stupid reason for harassing black youth.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
15. The other cops should have arrested him
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:13 PM
Jun 2015

You can see some of the other cops are trying not to be assholes. The one guy was telling the kids just don't run from the police and the other uncuffed the girl. And they weren't all threatening and cursing but that one guy was totally out of control, escalated the situation and endangered the lives of people. The other cops should have restrained him. Maybe they were afraid he'd shoot them.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
16. Those other cops are what's known as "bad cops".
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:17 PM
Jun 2015

They failed to arrest the cop who blatantly committed a felony right in front of them.

That makes them bad cops.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
17. That's the training they need, and the environment that needs to exist
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jun 2015

That when you see one cop doing something wrong, you step in and take control of the situation. But instead we have the blue wall of silence.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
28. This is exactly right. Give the cops the right training, and they'll
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:14 PM
Jun 2015

know what to do. It's like giving anti-bullying training in schools --it gives bystanders who know it is wrong the tools to react.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
131. They might have been afraid.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:58 PM
Jun 2015

He is definitely someone I wouldn't trust with a gun or any other kind of weapon. He escalated a situation that could have been easily handled by just asking the kids what happened and getting witness statements. That one cop didn't need to do that roll he did in the beginning of the video and set off chasing kids like that. I'd run from someone in that kind of hyped up, angry frame of mind too. It's only natural to want to run from someone who seems to have a chip on their shoulder and seems awfully out of control. The other cops seemed to be trying to be halfway decent, at least, but you are right. If they could have gotten him under control, none of that would have happened, most likely.

tblue37

(65,394 posts)
155. He tripped over that tree root, which is why he rolled, BUT I bet he was
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jun 2015

embarrassed about it, and that just amped up his anger and his need to dominate and punish the kids who witnessed his embarrassment.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
25. I know we need to see the videos of this
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 06:58 PM
Jun 2015

without daylight, none of this will change. But the more of these videos I see, the more disheartened I become that we are too late to stop this. I am sick at heart over this.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
32. What's up with Raging Bull there?
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:16 PM
Jun 2015

It almost looked like things were going to settle down until he came charging in throwing people on the ground and pulling his gun.

Jesus, he looked like he was about to clock another cop for getting between him and another kid he wanted to flatten.

Response to marmar (Original post)

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
104. Honestly when I watched the video
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 02:22 AM
Jun 2015

I was thinking if I was that heavy guy I would likely be dead now.

That cop was out of control. Not sure if I have ever seen a cop so out of control before.

marble falls

(57,099 posts)
40. On another note: Thankyou MIRT for cleaning up the two spills in this aisle, don't know....
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jun 2015

what they said but I know from my time on MIRT and seeing what this topic was about I KNOW it was awful and totally racist.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
41. I'll take the hide
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:51 PM
Jun 2015

I hope that mother fucker doesn't choke on hs food tonight. Fucking monster.

And if that woman punched someone in their face - I want a perp walk. She probably beats her husband and kids - that type always does.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
123. Yes you may
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:21 PM
Jun 2015

And see above - where the guy who hasn't even attempted to look at the video missed the part where the heavy set white woman punched the 19 year old.

It's on the Vine link.

Should I just ignore him - or play him like a fiddle?

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
146. There's a video. I watched it.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jun 2015

Google it. The Washington Post links it in their front page article. The large blonde woman attacks two smaller black female teens. She's got them by the hair and jerking their heads around, then she starts punching them.

If I was the mother of those girls I would be preparing a big lawsuit. Epic.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
42. Thanks for the link, it shows the precipitating incident on video
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 07:58 PM
Jun 2015

I can't figure out how to put it here, but it's at the link. Shame on that woman and the cops.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
66. Yeah, the barrel roll.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jun 2015

It looked like he'd been practicing that move for a while, waiting for the opportunity to employ it. He must have felt like a real he-man. Dirty Harry.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
75. +1, I thought it was a spoof vid or something... the cop is wearing white socks like Blart Cop or
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jun 2015

...something

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
47. Geesh
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jun 2015

I hope the woman who was making the racist comments gets outed and if she turned violent, I hope she gets arrested.

And the cop used way too much force, and deserves strong disciplinary action or getting fired, imo. Looks like this is another instance of cops needing training.

Whether or not the kids were supposed to be at the pool is questionable. Private neighborhood pools aren't open to the public, and I've read that they weren't supposed to be there which is why the cops kept telling them to leave.

I would bet that a couple of the kids lived in the neighborhood and invited their friends over not realizing they could only invite a limited number of guests. Our family can only invite four guests at a time - up from three a few years ago.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
55. According to the police statement, they weren't supposed to be there.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:28 PM
Jun 2015

I don't know of any community pool around here that lets anyone invite so many guests. Someone probably invited too many guests and the kids thought they had a right to be there.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
59. A community pool that sells birthday party sessions
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:31 PM
Jun 2015

but maybe it didn't occur to them that a bunch of black people would be invited to one of the parties.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
61. Right... those neighborhoods in DFW are usually racially mixed too.. that's what's crazy, the kids
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:36 PM
Jun 2015

... out right saw the racism because mostly or only black and Hispanic kids were told to sit down while the white guy in the Brown shirt was walking through the scene grabbing at kids.

Disgusting

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
65. My neighborhood in the Houston area is extremely mixed
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:45 PM
Jun 2015

but McKinney is not. It's only about eleven percent black, which is why I figured that many African American kids probably didn't all live in that neighborhood.

However, if the pool does "sell" birthday sessions, then they would have had a right to be there as guests.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
62. I don't know of any community pool that "sells" birthday party sessions
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:41 PM
Jun 2015

Last edited Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)

You can't rent the pool and hire your own lifeguards in every neighborhood I've lived in, but we could never have more than 3 or 4 guests when the pool was open to the neighborhood.

If this pool does sell birthday party sessions, and all the kids were invited, then they would have had a right to be there. If that's true - no brainer!

Ugh - ETA - that should be "You CAN rent the pool..."

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
72. I live in a gated community w/ a pool and I've never heard of selling
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:13 PM
Jun 2015

"birthday sessions". Our HOA rules say that you can only have three guest at the pool or in the common area. But....if you are having a larger party, all you need to do is advise the other residents by posting on the community mail box and letting the management company know. (inviting all 36 homeowners doesn't hurt. ) Very simple.
I've been here nearly 20 years and have seen everything from teen parties to wedding receptions. And yes, there were a couple times the cops had to be called. As a matter of fact I called at least once myself.

But there is absolutely no excuse for what happened in McKinney.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
80. My community is definitely not gated :)
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

and I've lived in a few neighborhoods with community pools, and all had strict rules whether we lived in very modest neighborhoods or nicer neighborhoods.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
136. Another video explained..
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jun 2015

...that the young woman giving the party had passes of her own and that she was given passes by other residents. I'm guessing they were from neighbors and friends. They were planning a cookout.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
112. We have a community pool in my area
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 07:17 AM
Jun 2015

not in my town but in the next town over, and people can buy passes to have a birthday party there. You don't rent the pool, but if you have 15 guests you pay a certain amount per pass and buy that many so you can have a party there. And I could do it even though I don't live in that town. It's a way to get funding to help pay for the pool. They could have a program like that going.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
113. I think we're talking about different setups
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:21 AM
Jun 2015

We call it a community pool, but it's a private pool owned and run by the neighborhood association and is closed to the public. Over the last 30 years, I've belong to several as we've moved here and there, and I've never heard of being able to invite more than two to four guests at one time. Sometimes, it is possible to rent the whole pool for a private party, in which case we have to pay for the lifeguards.

I think the teens believed they were invited, but I'm not sure that the by-laws would have allowed for so many, so I'm sure the locals were surprised. Add in the racist rants by one or two women, and all hell seemed to have broken loose.
I could imagine their confusion.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
118. We've heard more info about this
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jun 2015

and you can look for the other thread about it - I'm sure it's still on GD. Some of the kids were residents, and they each had a few guest passes, and they each gave their guest passes to a few friends. They were totally entitled to be there. In fact, most of the kids were actually residents.

Here's the other thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026798379

JI7

(89,251 posts)
79. it's just a fucking pool with kids , what resulted should never have happened regardless of whether
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:44 PM
Jun 2015

the kids should have been there.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
52. To me, and I'm not a cop
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jun 2015

If the point was some kids weren't supposed to be there and they took off when I showed up, then my job is done except for arresting the adults who were fighting.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
54. The black kids said they took off cause the cop had a gun and they didn't want to be shot, that's
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:27 PM
Jun 2015

... what the bad cops have wrought; another generation of POC who wont work with them

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
74. Wrong. The "cops" were not out control.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:25 PM
Jun 2015

A cop. That's ONE cop, was out of control.
The others are subordinates that actually appeared to have been well trained.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
84. So how does that work in the field
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jun 2015

I saw some cops act rationally but the one guy was clearly over the edge and armed. He looked far more dangerous than any of the bystanders
So what would happen if the cops in control disarmed him and cuffed him? Is that ever done?

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
89. The out of control guy is a senior officer. The 2 chevrons are rank
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:49 AM
Jun 2015

over the others. IOW, he's the supervisor. Not sure if the other have the authority or weevils to stop him.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
93. Its a difficult position
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:04 AM
Jun 2015

I'm a nurse. I once had to physically block a doctor from entering a patients room. I had to stand my ground and he actually wound up battering me before security arrived. I tried to direct the confrontation away from the patient area but he insisted on making an ass of himself. I was thinking at the time that I would lose my job.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
94. I see your point and agree it's horrible position to be
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:17 AM
Jun 2015

put in. I'd like to say I'd always take the "noble" path, but I'm a Vietnam veteran....saw much....did little. Bad position to be in.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
101. You are an unsung hero and have my sincerest appreciation and
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:31 AM
Jun 2015

admiration.

May I say "Bravo! (Brava!)"?

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
114. You could have lost your license!
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:25 AM
Jun 2015

You must have had a very good reason for doing so. Too many doctors are another bunch with a god complex.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
160. Unfortunately, the ONE cop that was out of control
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jun 2015

was the one who was supposed to be in charge. It is amazing that 2 of the other cops stepped in quickly when the supervisor pulled a gun on the teens.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
53. They had passe to be there for a party but too many POC were there for some racist bastards and
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jun 2015

... called the pool manager and the pool manager started making up some rules to get rid of the black and Hispanic people not knowing some of them lived there.

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
148. Why do you assume that most of the kids didn't live in the neighborhood?
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:47 PM
Jun 2015

If all the kids were white, would you assume that they didn't belong?

Please think about this.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
51. Anyone else notice the guy in the beige shirt not being told to get down and stay out of the police
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:22 PM
Jun 2015

... business

What makes this so horrible is the stupid people who started this weren't arrested

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
60. WOW!! Creepy, so this guy was just going through the scene and being ignored. This is a perfect...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 08:34 PM
Jun 2015

... example of how subtle overt racism can be.

The people who started the fight aren't arrested
The white kids who were around the same side of the scene aren't told to sit down
The cop runs (and does a barrel roll) after some kids needlessly

I'm thinking he was embarrassed

tblue37

(65,394 posts)
157. He rolled after tripping over the long tree root. His embarrassment was probably one
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:22 PM
Jun 2015

reason he was so angree and determined to "get" the kids who saw him looking so ridiculous.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
82. What the hell...
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 09:46 PM
Jun 2015

How do these people become our "protectors"?

The system is BROKEN.

This is unacceptable, this needs to be an issue in 2016.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
85. UPDATE: Cop Added Video to His YouTube Playlist
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jun 2015

I guess he's nothing better to do while on suspension AKA paid leave.

Wow. The officer shown brutally manhandling a teenage girl above, Eric Casebolt, has his own YouTube account: youtube.com

And he has a playlist of “police training videos,” some of which are blatantly racist in nature. And get a load of this — Casebolt added the video of the pool party incident to his playlist.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44701_Video-_Police_Brutality_Incident_at_a_Pool_Party_in_Texas_-_UPDATE-_Cop_Added_Video_to_His_YouTube_Playlist

Here’s a screenshot of Casebolt’s playlist at YouTube, just in case the video suddenly disappears from it; it’s the last one on the list, at the bottom:

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
87. That youtube page is now empty except comments to him. heh
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jun 2015
Hi, are you available for private security? I am having a kindergarten graduation party for about 25 kids, age 4-6. It would be great if you could be there in case any of them get out of control. I saw your video, seems like you are the perfect man for manhandling kids. Hazard pay would be involved if a barrel roll is necessary. Please let me know


A little tip from the other side of the pond.
When arriving on a scene like the one with the kids at the pool party.
Cool down, get a grip of what's going on. find and talk to the adults in charge.
Don´t start running around yelling random commands like a headless chicken.
And for gods sake. The gun.. Guns are not little nice piggy toys.
Pulling that trigger has consequence. Just so you know.


Do you star in any other Dorf Goes Terrorizing Children videos?


I see that you've posted videos on police training, and your video of the pool party WILL be police training. It will graphically show how NOT to act, as a police officer OR AN ADULT to a group of unarmed teenagers in swimwear. It will show how NOT to run around being the only person in the video running like someone crazed, swearing and threatening children, or pulling a gun for no reason. Really?! You pulled a GUN on children in swimwear?! You're the only one in the video who was behaving badly. This video will show other police how NOT to throw a child on the ground, keep yelling at her, and sit on her back when all she was doing is standing. Frankly, you should first apologize to every CHILD you cursed, then you should lie prone on the ground, and have that poor child sit on your back while you wonder if this crazy jerk is going to shoot you in the back when all you wanted to do was go to an end-of-school party. Shame on you!

Response to marmar (Original post)

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
90. Cop who abused Black teenage girl has been suspended, probably only until everything blows over.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:56 AM
Jun 2015

Despicable haters, shameful, disgusting excuses for human beings.

So very sad to see this, those poor kids!

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
103. I hope the parents of those teens sue that town out of existence (or at least
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:35 AM
Jun 2015

max out its liability caps). Make the white McKinney residents pay for their gang operating under color of the law. Sue the fucking shit out of them.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
95. Who is the big heavy-set white guy in the blue shorts and off-white
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:20 AM
Jun 2015

sport shirt? He looks like a pig and doesn't exhibit the slightest sign of worry that the uniformed pigs are going to fuck with him. Has he been ID'ed yet?

Creepy fuck needs to be fully DOXed at a minimum.

JI7

(89,251 posts)
97. “Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,”
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 01:22 AM
Jun 2015

<“I think a bunch of white parents were angry that a bunch of black kids who don’t live in the neighborhood were in the pool,” Brooks, who is white, told BuzzFeed.

“Everyone who was getting put on the ground was black, Mexican, Arabic,” he added. The cop “didn’t even look at me. It was kind of like I was invisible.”>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/07/new-video-shows-texas-police-officer-pulling-gun-on-teenagers-at-pool-party/

JI7

(89,251 posts)
111. the beginning where the Pig rolls down while running looks like something he did
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 05:59 AM
Jun 2015

intentionally based on some action films.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
124. I used to live in McKinney - so know the area well
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:23 PM
Jun 2015

This does not surprise me at all. The farther you get away from Dallas proper, the more bland the suburbs become. One of the reasons I jumped at the chance to get back to Austin.

L-

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
127. That cop needs to be on a list of never hire this guy.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jun 2015

He shouldn't be trusted with any type of weapons. He had no reason to knee the young girl in the back or pull his gun on those guys or any of the other crap he did. He needs to be disarmed and sent to some kind of counseling to control his temper. He is out of control and not safe for the rest of the public.

bottomofthehill

(8,333 posts)
129. Assclown Cop trips over his own two feet, and then loses his shit
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jun 2015

The cop who trips himself running around like a madman got pissed off (most likely as people were laughing at him for running around like a crazy man) had to "play the man" to rebuild his ego. What an asshat.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
140. I'm thinking he was doing a rambo barrel roll or something like Blart Cop ... this is soooo
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:21 PM
Jun 2015

... the guy should be investigated

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
142. She was black and was in the vicinity of a racist cop, that's about it... the cop wasn't making any
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 03:38 PM
Jun 2015

... the white residents sit or do anything.

Also notice the guy with jean shorts on and a beige shirt .... he wasn't told to do anything by the cop... while the 14yr old girl was slammed to the ground.

RamboCop was out of control

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
145. Maybe she said something he didn't like.
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 04:00 PM
Jun 2015

Or used the kind of language he was using to children. That doesn't constitute an excuse, btw.

-- Mal

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
158. In a very real way this was as bad as all the other videos posted of cops out of control
Mon Jun 8, 2015, 09:33 PM
Jun 2015

Because it showed just how one cop completely escalated the situation by himself into something that could have have incredible tragic.

I knew no one was killed but when he drew his gun I still gasped; that as insane as he was acting it's a miracle he didn't kill anyone.

Those poor kids. Cop should be fired and facing charges.

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