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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:08 AM Jun 2015

New CNN/ORC poll... interesting results

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/06/02/obama,.economy.poll.pdf

Top issue is "the economy", but it's only at 22%. Five years ago it was over 50%. As "the economy" has lost ground as a top concern, "education" and "terrorism" have moved up (to 17% and 13%).

The preference of living Presidents, ordered by approval rating, is: Bill Clinton & GHWB (tied for first), Carter, W, Obama.

Both parties rank lower than any living President.

6% of respondents have never heard of Jimmy Carter

Response to "How are things going in the country today" is:
4% "very well"
43% "fairly well"
35% "pretty badly"
17% "very badly"

So, largest group is "fairly well", but "pretty badly + very badly" outpolls "very well + fairly well"

Roughly half say the economy has "started to recover" from 2008 but still faces problems; a quarter say it has neither improved nor gotten worse; a quarter say it is still getting worse.

88% of Democrats, 77% of liberals, and 56% of moderates hold a favorable view of Obama.

Obama's best age group is 18-34 (61% approve), and his worst is mine, 35-49 (33% approve).

Non-whites are more likely (55%) than whites (42%) to say the economy is recovering since 2008. (This one is really interesting.)

1025 adults were surveyed by landline and cell phone. Respondents self-identified as 27% D, 21% R, 52% independent.
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All those "opinion polls" are rigged delrem Jun 2015 #1
The poll is horseshit, but you should probably know that things going "badly" in this country 6000eliot Jun 2015 #2
Without more specifics on "going badly," it's too vague DFW Jun 2015 #3

delrem

(9,688 posts)
1. All those "opinion polls" are rigged
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:38 AM
Jun 2015

by the fact that they demand yes/no or multiple-choice answers to lists of questions.
So every one of them is agenda driven and manipulative, even the most scholarly of them.

In my opinion only a special kind of idiot would waste their time answering any of the random anonymous pollsters that annoy us day in and day out. I think the pollsters know that, but for their agenda driven and manipulative purposes that doesn't matter.

I think it's obvious that politically oriented polls are rigged with increasing intensity of purpose as elections near. They are campaign tools and PAC tools and MSM tools in campaigns spending billions of dollars, and that's billions of dollars per candidate, and that's in a field where the big spenders donate to multiple candidates from multiple parties, saturating the airwaves.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
2. The poll is horseshit, but you should probably know that things going "badly" in this country
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:49 AM
Jun 2015

has consistently outpolled things going well ever since the question was first asked approximately 30 or so years ago.

DFW

(54,448 posts)
3. Without more specifics on "going badly," it's too vague
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:31 AM
Jun 2015

If you poll rural parts of the south or Midwest, allowing same-sex marriage, emphasizing the First Amendment or curtailing police violence might count as "things going badly."

Poll some billionaires, and noises about movement on repealing Citizens United might mean "things going badly."

What is "bad" for some might be fabulous for others.

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