HOW IN THE HELL does Gay Marriage hurt Heterosexual Marriage?????

[Logical]

They act like now that gays can get married it will some how ruin heterosexual marriage.

How?

It amazes me that Britney Spears married her friend in Vegas and then got it annulled 55 hours later! That was LEGAL!!! Talk about the sanctity of marriage!

This whole topic is unbelievable!

[backscatter712]

1. I keep asking that question too...

So far, I've never gotten an answer that makes sense.

[shraby]

2. It doesn't..they just pulled that out of their collective asses. What hurts marriages are abusive

partners, alcohol to excess, and divorces..which are sometimes necessary because of the things I named.

[aquart]

3. Marcus Bachmann might decide to follow his heart?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. I've never understood that claim.

How on earth does the marriage of a same-sex couple affect in any way anybody else's marriage? OK, a guy marries another guy. That means - OH, NO! - that neither of those guys is going to be available to marry me (a straight woman)! Well, duh. Neither of them was going to marry me anyhow, because they're gay! Preventing gay people from getting married doesn't mean they will stop being gay, and allowing them to get married like everybody else (and suffer shitty divorces like everybody else) will not prevent straight people from being straight or marrying each other. I don't get it at all.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Logic has nothing to do with irrational fears

[polichick]

6. They're always afraid they won't be special anymore...

Women got rights and threatened their specialness.

Blacks got rights and threatened their specialness.

This is what's left. They know they're not special on merits - their self esteem depends upon keeping others from having what they have. Pitiful really.

[WillyT]

7. With Heterosexual Marriages Ending In Divorce Over 50% Of The Time...

I don't think it could be hurt any more... BY ANYBODY !!!

[Logical]

8. Great point! n-t

[madinmaryland]

9. And Rush Limpballs is heading into his fourth divorce. Interestingly, he has never had any children

ETA: Isn't the point of marriage to procreate???

Sorry for the mental thoughts about that.

[socialist_n_TN]

10. Well now I can divorce my wife and marry.........

Brad Pitt!

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. My, will the happy couple...

Never mind.

[socialist_n_TN]

22. !.......

[Canuckistanian]

12. The same way interracial marriages hurt marriage

Oh, wait.....

[jimlup]

13. They are just very insecure people ...

I'm so sick of self righteous republicans tonight. But I think Obama helped to further what is going to be a slow but steady fall for them over the next several years.

[SomethingFishy]

14. Along the same lines another question...

Why is it that the people who say "I believe marriage should be between a man and a woman" think that anyone gives a shit what they think and why do they think that because they believe that that everyone in the country should follow their beliefs.

And why does the media not ask these fucking questions?

[Zorra]

15. Minnesota Gay Community Apologizes To Sen. Amy Koch For The Ruination Of Her Marriage

Earlier this year, Minnesota State Senator Amy Koch was one of the many Republicans campaigning for a Constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage so as to protect the holy sanctity of marriage. This week, Koch apologized for cheating on her husband. There is clearly only one possible explanation; that all those marrying gays ruined Koch’s marriage. What jerks. Fortunately the gay community of Minnesota has been thoughtful enough to apologize.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/minnesota-gay-community-apologizes-to-sen-amy-koch-for-the-ruination-of-her-marriage/

Marriage equality causes homophobic religious bigot hypocrites to commit adultery.

[Recursion]

16. You're missing the point: it harms patriarchy, not marriage

"Marriage" is just a more positive sounding thing for people to defend.

[Starry Messenger]

30. +1000

[treestar]

36. Thank you!

That really does clear it up for me. I was confused about it, had something to do with society following their rules, which they can't have if people can legally do otherwise. It's that system that is harmed. The one where the men at the top control everything.

[Recursion]

38. And where a man a "source" rather than a "target" of lust

And where lust is something dangerous that needs a "target". Grumble..

[HeiressofBickworth]

17. It's unbelievable

why anyone would think it's their business anyway. In the six houses on my street there are a variety of living situations. I have NEVER asked my neighbors their marital status or their sexual preference, nor do I care. If there is a married gay couple, it effects me NONE! On the greater scale, if a government is willing to allow certain rights and privileges to people who form a family unit, it doesn't matter who, how or why they form a family unit -- all family units should be treated the same. OR, there should be no rights or privileges for ANY family unit. We as a society like to pretend that we don't discriminate. We have made some progress. Marital equality is another step to achieve our national goal.

[Rex]

18. Don't know.

People can get married in a courthouse, so it should have nothing to do with religion. It does not make sense to me either.

[ladym55]

19. Let me think

Gay marriage hurts heterosexual marriage by ... umm, err, uhhh .... hmmmm.

Let me think some more. It hurts heterosexual marriage by ... uhhh ... no, that's not it. Maybe because ... nahhh.

Let me think about heterosexual marriages that I have known to fail ... hmmm ... usually involves one partner having sex with a different heterosexual partner.

Gay marriage hurts heterosexual marriage because right-wing tools say so. They don't need no stinkin' logic and no stinkin' evidence.

And I for one am ALWAYS grateful to have such bastions of the traditonal family as Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh defend the sanctity of marriage.

[WinniSkipper]

20. Marriage Equality

I found out tonight that is the correct term. I went back and edited one of my previous posts.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

21. It......hmmmm......well.......it......

ah hell, I'm stumped!


President Obama made his big announcement this afternoon that he supports marriage equality and it's now 11:13 pm and my marriage to my wife is still fully intact. Having heard how marriage equality would destroy heterosexual marriage for years and years, I was concerned.

Do I really need a

[guitar man]

23. It doesn't

It's just bigots clinging to the last vestiges of an "acceptable" form of bigotry and they see it slipping through their fingers. They'll do or say just about anything to keep that from happening.

[Dokkie]

24. the same way

me smoking MJ in my house hurts non smokers. Its all related somehow

[Zoeisright]

25. It doesn't. That's the dog whistle only the stupid understand.

If repukes really wanted to "protect marriage", they'd outlaw divorce. But try telling that to my FUX-news-watching-divorce-lawyer-repuke-brother-in-law. Idiot.

[kestrel91316]

26. Britney only did that because she heard about a

happy gay couple.

[libodem]

27. I dunno

I might want to marry my cat. Those gays can make us straight people do crazy things with their special talents.

Maybe it's witchcraft? Putting spells on the heteros.

[jmowreader]

28. I think it's because gay couples are more sensitive to each others' needs than straight couples

Because, basically, I have never met a woman who appreciates every man's need to own a grill big enough to cook a water buffalo. Men understand these things.

Seriously, though, I can't understand it either; what happens next door should stay there.

[Logical]

39. +1

[MannyGoldstein]

29. Before permitting same-sex marriage, Massachusetts...

had the lowest divorce rate in the country.

Now we have the lowest divorce rate in the country.

[marasinghe]

31. this might give us a clue ....

they get their psychological theory from Al Bundy?

[NYC Liberal]

32. You would think they'd WANT same-sex marriage...

with the same logic that is/was behind opposition to interracial marriage.

"Let those evil, sinful gays stick to their own kind and stay away from straight folks!"

[Scuba]

33. I had this "explained" to me yesterday. It's allegedly greed.

This is the "explanation" I got from someone who voted NO in NC yesterday.

I had posited that the motive was "hate". He said, no, it's "greed".

See, there's this "marriage pie", and if gays are allowed to marry, straights will get a smaller piece of that pie. That's right. See, couples that marry get benefits like being able to file joint returns, reducing their tax liability. When gays marry and get that benefit, it takes away from everyone else. "It's greed", he said.

He said one of his loved ones who "has many gay friends" voted for the ban because his own tax liability would then be smaller.

Now I'd never previously heard of the "marriage pie" and I would imagine that any savings taxpayers get by not allowing gays to file their tax returns jointly must be incredibly tiny. Who would sell out the civil rights of their "friends" for a dollar or two?

Bigots and hateful people, that's who. Like I said, I'd never heard of the "marriage pie", but I've sure heard a lot of hate speech.

[Jennicut]

34. Heterosexual marriage is being damaged by straight people all by themselves.

We have a high divorce rate, people cheating on each other left and right and nasty divorces. We have single parents doing everything because one parent is lazy and one step up and have any responsibility to their children. Gay people did not cause any of that. It just makes me laugh when RW-ers try and use that "logic".

[2pooped2pop]

35. for the homophobic

legalizing what they hate themselves for secretly desiring, erases one of their minds reasons to not acknowledge their secret desire?

so if all of the homophobic (seems highly tilted to repugs) people who secretly desire a gay relationship, making it legal could mean the breakup of their traditional marriages as they all run off to join "the gay"

you know, since it's legal and all.

Yes, I know that's bullshit, but it makes as much sense as any other reason they can come up with.

[malthaussen]

37. Presuming your question is sincere:

The overwhelming opposition to gay marriage comes from people who like to think of themselves as "conservative Christians." To these people, marriage is a sacrament rooted in the deepest principles of their faith, and is intended for one purpose: the procreation of children. Gay marriage does not, therefore, attack heterosexual marriage, but the very roots of their religion.

As said upthread, don't expect rationality from fanatics.

-- Mal