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L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:24 PM May 2015

Let's be clear: The brutal death of Natasha McKenna was not an accident

Last edited Mon May 11, 2015, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Added: 5/11/15 - 9 pm I'm almost sorry I posted this ...but then all these killings and killers need to be known.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/11/1383983/-Let-s-be-clear-The-brutal-death-of-Natasha-McKenna-was-not-an-accident?detail=facebook



On April 28, the Fairfax County, Virginia, medical examiner ruled that the in-custody death of Natasha McKenna was an accident.
It wasn't.

Her death was the brutal, intentional, and of force so excessive that both of her eyes were blackened, a finger was amputated, she was covered in bruises, and never woke up again after being repeatedly Tasered by the police. Mind you, this was all done to her after her hands were cuffed, her feet were shackled, and a hood put over her head. Some reports also state that she was apparently stripped completely naked as well.

No, this wasn't an accident.

<snip>She died because she was restrained and repeatedly shocked with 50,000 volts of electricity. She went into cardiac arrest and never spoke another word again because of the Taser, not because of her mental illness. Anything above three shocks by the Taser is known to cause real problems and even cardiac arrest.
Drago also noted, “If you put too many of these charges together, the folks in the medical field say when you go above three (charges), you get into a gray area about whether it causes cardiac arrest or not. It’s all part of the analysis. That’s the problem with the Taser. It doesn’t have a mind of its own. Officers have to read the warning bulletins.”
She should've never been in jail in the first place. Even though she had a clearly identifiable mental illness and had been hospitalized by the state on other occasions, Natasha McKenna sat in the Fairfax County jail for eight long days without the appropriate medical attention she so badly needed. During this time, McKenna had been assaulted by officers on January 31.


This just makes me sick! more at link

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Let's be clear: The brutal death of Natasha McKenna was not an accident (Original Post) L0oniX May 2015 OP
It is sick AuntPatsy May 2015 #1
Ever since police got tasers, SheilaT May 2015 #2
They use them as cattle prods, to force compliance with police desires Scootaloo May 2015 #5
They use them as instruments of punishment. Mr.Bill May 2015 #7
I agree with your post completely. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #20
Exactly! L0oniX May 2015 #25
Excellent point, take away their guns as well after we enforce the 2nd amendment. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #30
So the police have more of an excuse to just shoot their victims? -none May 2015 #38
I can't dsagree with you, Mr.Bill May 2015 #39
At least you need room to use a bull whip. -none May 2015 #40
I think a lot of white and Hispanics get killed, too. leftyladyfrommo May 2015 #27
You think so? I think there are stats that show a minority is WAY more likely NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #31
Look at all the homeless people that get messed with? leftyladyfrommo May 2015 #34
They do -- there was that homeless man in Albuquerque who was shot SheilaT May 2015 #37
Heartbreaking IVoteDFL May 2015 #3
I second that motion. Nt lostnfound May 2015 #19
Sadistic F*cks etherealtruth May 2015 #4
This is TORTURE BrotherIvan May 2015 #6
It won't stop until we stop them malaise May 2015 #9
I think we need to target police chief election appointments very seriously BrotherIvan May 2015 #10
My friend in San Francisco assures me cops there are just as bad, if not WORSE NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #32
A friend's brother Thespian2 May 2015 #8
I wonder if, with these daily murders and electrocutions of peaceable, unarmed citizens, Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #11
The prisons are bad--but the streets are worse. virgogal May 2015 #15
????? heaven05 May 2015 #23
Your Point? NOLALady May 2015 #35
Fucking disgusting. blackspade May 2015 #12
"you promised you wouldn't hurt me." polly7 May 2015 #13
* L0oniX May 2015 #14
Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), Downwinder May 2015 #16
Good. Lord. Alkene May 2015 #17
those sick bastards need to be removed from the force. sick, perverted, diseased, hate-filled niyad May 2015 #18
No doubt this was murder. marym625 May 2015 #21
Another MURDER by cop SoLeftIAmRight May 2015 #22
Nazis Enthusiast May 2015 #24
i agree samsingh May 2015 #26
Sick system Aerows May 2015 #28
Fairfax County Jail is where Roy Buchanan died in 1988. Octafish May 2015 #29
One of his lasts shows was in Tampa. HooptieWagon May 2015 #33
Perfect summation... TeeYiYi May 2015 #36
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
2. Ever since police got tasers,
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:37 PM
May 2015

they've been using them when they shouldn't. Or tasering someone multiple times, as occurred here.

It just seems like every single day, yet another person -- almost invariably an African American -- is killed by police. In a way, race shouldn't even enter into this, because killing other humans as has been happening, is far beyond what police should ever be doing. But we do all understand that race is a huge factor.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. They use them as cattle prods, to force compliance with police desires
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:42 PM
May 2015

Not as weapons, to end dangerous confrontations

Mr.Bill

(24,354 posts)
7. They use them as instruments of punishment.
Mon May 11, 2015, 07:33 PM
May 2015

And that is not the job of the police. Tasers should be taken away from the police.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
30. Excellent point, take away their guns as well after we enforce the 2nd amendment.
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:00 PM
May 2015

If all guns are in locked up militias , cops wont need them

Until we do something about guns, we will NOT do anything about cops shooting people


i know


broken record I am

LOVED YOUR POINT about them using them as punishment, though

cops do believe they have a right to dish out punishment, the same way con businessmen believe they have the right to determine who gets money, who doesnt

-none

(1,884 posts)
38. So the police have more of an excuse to just shoot their victims?
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:30 PM
May 2015

The problem here are not the tools, but the tool holder and their seeing the public as the enemy.
We need to get well away from militarizing the police. They are supposed to be a civilian peace keeping force. Not a military trained, occupation force.

Mr.Bill

(24,354 posts)
39. I can't dsagree with you,
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:45 PM
May 2015

I'm just saying when you hand them a so-called non-lethal weapon, they will use it to punish people who make their job difficult. They will use it in instances where they would not even unholster a firearm. We might as well issue them bullwhips.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
27. I think a lot of white and Hispanics get killed, too.
Tue May 12, 2015, 05:54 PM
May 2015

They just don't make the headlines.

It is all awful and I'm glad the media and the video cameras that people all have now are starting to shine a light on this mess.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
31. You think so? I think there are stats that show a minority is WAY more likely
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:01 PM
May 2015

to be shot, mistreated, etc. WAY

but it does happen to white people, sure, i agree

leftyladyfrommo

(18,874 posts)
34. Look at all the homeless people that get messed with?
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:13 PM
May 2015

I think that the poor and the homeless have a really tough time, too.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
37. They do -- there was that homeless man in Albuquerque who was shot
Tue May 12, 2015, 07:06 PM
May 2015

and killed by police a few months ago. But mostly, it's been African Americans lately.

IVoteDFL

(417 posts)
3. Heartbreaking
Mon May 11, 2015, 06:39 PM
May 2015

I was unfamiliar with this case, so thanks for posting. Where do you go from here? It's clear to anyone with half a functioning brain cell that this wasn't an accident. Six men in riot gear vs one woman who possibly weighed less than 130 lbs. If that isn't excessive force why the fuck does the phrase "excessive force" even exist?

Her murderers should be put in a cell with that photo on the wall so they can be reminded every single day of the life they ended.


BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
10. I think we need to target police chief election appointments very seriously
Mon May 11, 2015, 07:40 PM
May 2015

The change has to come from the top and the people in charge need to be held accountable so they stop this shit.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
32. My friend in San Francisco assures me cops there are just as bad, if not WORSE
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:03 PM
May 2015

than anywhere else.

Yes, SF , the most liberal place in America

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
8. A friend's brother
Mon May 11, 2015, 07:34 PM
May 2015

was tasered to death by the RCMP...he also had mental problems...

They seem to feel safe using the taser, but surely they know it can kill...

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
11. I wonder if, with these daily murders and electrocutions of peaceable, unarmed citizens,
Mon May 11, 2015, 08:06 PM
May 2015

it isn't getting into war-crimes territory, and they could face a War Crimes Tribunal, maybe under the auspices of the European Court of Human Rights. I don't know the ins and outs. The tazer is surely a cruel and unusual punishment, whatever its proximate purpose.

The there is the prison gulag, with people serving decades for mere taradiddles.

 

virgogal

(10,178 posts)
15. The prisons are bad--but the streets are worse.
Mon May 11, 2015, 09:05 PM
May 2015

Eighty seven people have been killed in Baltimore so far this year.

EIGHTY SEVEN---and they weren't killed by cops.

Frightening.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
12. Fucking disgusting.
Mon May 11, 2015, 08:22 PM
May 2015


Our police forces need to be cashiered. What a bunch of perverted psychopaths.

for Natasha McKenna

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
16. Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT),
Mon May 11, 2015, 09:14 PM
May 2015

In most states in the USA, a judicial order following a formal hearing is needed before a patient can be forced to undergo involuntary ECT.

-----

Except when administered by a Cop with a Taser.

niyad

(113,783 posts)
18. those sick bastards need to be removed from the force. sick, perverted, diseased, hate-filled
Mon May 11, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

murderers. on our dime, in our name.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
21. No doubt this was murder.
Tue May 12, 2015, 11:18 AM
May 2015

So was the death of Sheneque Proctor. To my knowledge, the surveillance video still has not been released, even to the family

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026228333

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. Sick system
Tue May 12, 2015, 05:55 PM
May 2015

sick people administrating it, sick people "Just Obeying Orders" and sick society for letting this fester to this point.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
29. Fairfax County Jail is where Roy Buchanan died in 1988.
Tue May 12, 2015, 05:58 PM
May 2015

One of the all-time great blues guitarists, "a suicide."



From The Life & Times of Roy Buchanan by Phil Carson:

According to Carl Peed, now sheriff, then PR officer, shortly after Buchanan was placed in holding cell R-45, he was discovered with a crushed larynx and died en route to the hospital. The sheriff said an investigation showed that the 220-pound Buchanan had hung himself from a waist-high bar in the cell door using his own t-shirt.

There are still missing pieces to the puzzle of what happened that night. Even 10 years later, a hard look at the evidence requires withholding judgment. At Buchanan's funeral, one former band member recalled that Judy opened the coffin for them.

"It was obvious he'd had his head bashed in," this witness said. "There were bruises on his head. I saw them." The Fairfax County coroner's report did not mention bruises on Buchanan's head. Thus questions have arisen that still call out for answers.

If he took his own life, perhaps darkness won out in the end. If he was killed, we've done him a disservice by drawing attention to his demons. Roy Buchanan had something musical to say - something deep inside him, often beautiful and too often painful - and it only came out when he had a guitar, preferably his '53 Tele, in his hands. Despite the difficulties and missed opportunities, Buchanan's soulful honesty lives on.

SOURCE: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/guitar-legend-roy-buchanan-died-15-years-ago-today.19998/


Mr. Buchanan died in 1988 in the Fairfax, Va, county jail. His music was amazing. FWIU, his wife tossed him out of the house after he and a friend were drinking heavily. He subsequently had some kind of run-in with the police. I saw him perform in California in 1986 in a small bar holding maybe 150 people with Lonnie Mack and Dickie Betts. Roy Buchanan certainly did not seem like a violent person.

My heart breaks for Ms. McKenna. Hers is an important story, thank you for bringing it to DU, L0oniX. These are strange days when the police are acting like We the People are enemies of the state.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
33. One of his lasts shows was in Tampa.
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:09 PM
May 2015

The owner of the venue knew Roy well, and said he was doing pretty well, no way it was a suicide. And a local musician in Tampa used to play with Roy when he lived in DC...he doesn't believe the "suicide" story either.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
36. Perfect summation...
Tue May 12, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015
re: These are strange days when the police are acting like We the People are enemies of the state.

Interesting story on Roy Buchanan.

TYY
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