Wed May 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
BREAKING: Obama Embraces Marriage EqualityLast edited Wed May 9, 2012, 03:26 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
By Igor Volsky on May 9, 2012 at 2:51 pm
President Obama has come out in support of marriage equality for gay and lesbian people in an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts this afternoon: OBAMA: I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married. http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/09/481147/obama-marriage-2/ Video: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/obama-sex-marriage-legal-16312904
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| JackBeck | May 2012 | OP | |
| tallahasseedem | May 2012 | #1 | |
| JackBeck | May 2012 | #26 | |
| bigtree | May 2012 | #2 | |
| JackBeck | May 2012 | #32 | |
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| Pachamama | May 2012 | #35 | |
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| FiveGoodMen | May 2012 | #12 | |
| CTyankee | May 2012 | #24 | |
| Lionessa | May 2012 | #13 | |
| bigtree | May 2012 | #29 | |
| Lionessa | May 2012 | #33 | |
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| Solomon | May 2012 | #45 | |
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| MineralMan | May 2012 | #18 | |
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
tallahasseedem (4,449 posts)
1. Bravo Mr. President!
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Now we just need to help him and the Dems in November to finalize equality!
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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #1)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
26. He was in Albany the other day and had a meeting with Cuomo.
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Coincidence?
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:00 PM
bigtree (49,283 posts)
2. I think same sex couples should be able to get married
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Last edited Wed May 9, 2012, 03:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) oh boy! That's it, isn't it? He's in for the fight! Fucking HUGE!!!
I'm spreading this far and wide! |
Response to bigtree (Reply #2)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:27 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
32. THIS is a big, fucking deal. n/t
Response to JackBeck (Reply #32)
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:27 PM
swimboy (7,044 posts)
46. Oh, yes, it is! Yes indeed!
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Cheers, Jack!
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Response to swimboy (Reply #46)
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:56 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
51. Everyone's hard work and support have come to fruition.
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While Amendment One in North Carolina was a devastating blow, we continue to tear down the barriers to social justice across the country.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:01 PM
SidDithers (27,149 posts)
4. K&R...nt
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Sid
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:01 PM
maddezmom (130,861 posts)
5. Way to go Obama
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:02 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,851 posts)
6. HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! nt
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
malaise (106,102 posts)
7. Special Report on ABC right now
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Tweety says this is earth-shaking
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:06 PM
Bolo Boffin (22,532 posts)
9. Thank goodness.
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"Those that mind don't matter, and those that matter don't mind."
Thank you, President Obama. |
Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #9)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:36 PM
Pachamama (8,847 posts)
35. So True!!!! Perfect summary of what this will do to the election too!!!
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This is most likely the realization that the Obama re-election team came to. My belief is that Obama has long believed how important civil rights, equal rights for all are....and like many People, strugggled with his feelings but ultimately realizing that discrimination against Gay people from having the same rights to marry and have families is wrong.
Im very proud to call him my President..... PS: I was raised by Two Moms.....am a Mom myself now and am heterosexual. Raising kids has Nothing to do with whom you love, your sexual preference etc.....Shock!!!!!!! |
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:07 PM
backscatter712 (19,870 posts)
10. Awesome! About time! n/t
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:08 PM
hifiguy (13,029 posts)
11. BRAVO, Sir!
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:08 PM
FiveGoodMen (13,242 posts)
12. I'm very glad he said this
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But it should have been a given from day one.
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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #12)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:16 PM
CTyankee (35,117 posts)
24. well, the handwriting was on the wall and I guess he figured why not
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do it now, when the election is 6 months out. It will give the campaign lots of time to deal with any problems, altho I don't see any myself.
I guess we have Joe Biden to thank for causing the issue to be brought to a head...funny how things like that work out... |
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:08 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
13. For all those who keep telling many of us to STFU and support
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whatever Obama does, let this be a lesson. He told us to keep pushing him, and I see it has worked out for this issue.
SO STOP WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ALL LOVE AND ADORE AND SUPPORT EVERYTHING HE DOES EVERY MINUTE HE DOES IT! |
Response to Lionessa (Reply #13)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:23 PM
bigtree (49,283 posts)
29. he could probably use some of that support right now
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Last edited Wed May 9, 2012, 03:25 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) he's in for a shitstorm
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Response to bigtree (Reply #29)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
Lionessa (3,894 posts)
33. And it looks like he's getting it.
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I think a lot of iffy, kind of dejected voters are pumped up now.
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Response to Lionessa (Reply #13)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:12 PM
dionysus (22,268 posts)
41. admirable strawman you just disposed of.
Response to dionysus (Reply #41)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:55 PM
Solomon (8,956 posts)
45. Ever notice how they always take credit for anything
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he does? LOL He only does good stuff because we made him do it.
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Response to Solomon (Reply #45)
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:26 PM
CakeGrrl (9,034 posts)
57. Yeah, I knew that kind of post would surface soon enough.
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along with the 'regardless of his motives' Greenwaldian left-handed compliment posts.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:09 PM
fishwax (25,095 posts)
14. Excellent!
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:09 PM
nadine_mn (2,377 posts)
15. About fucking time nt
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
dana_b (8,484 posts)
16. yay!!!
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I am so glad he finally said it. The crap he is going to take right now will be worth it in the end.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
redqueen (102,517 posts)
17. K&R
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Feels good to have our President affirm this right. One step closer to being a civilised country.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
MineralMan (54,038 posts)
18. Thank you, Mr. President!
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You finally did it!
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:11 PM
HarveyDarkey (5,412 posts)
19. My only question
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What took you so long?
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
opiate69 (7,520 posts)
20. fuckin a!!!
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jennicut (25,350 posts)
21. The right thing to do.
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The only right thing to do on this issue. Thank you, President Obama.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
hamsterjill (4,306 posts)
22. From Texas
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I live in Texas, and I'm anticipating about half of the people I work with to start fainting any time now!!! LOL
Seriously, way to go, Mr. President. |
Response to hamsterjill (Reply #22)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:22 PM
TBF (18,403 posts)
28. IKR, heads will explode. Thank you Mr. President!
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nt
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
myrna minx (20,537 posts)
23. WooHoo!
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Response to myrna minx (Reply #23)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:52 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
36. A truly historic day for social justice and equality.
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Response to JackBeck (Reply #36)
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:15 AM
myrna minx (20,537 posts)
60. I'm still blown away. I wasn't expecting this at all.
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Response to myrna minx (Reply #60)
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:06 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
63. You have always been such a vocal ally and we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you.
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It took me by surprise, as well. I got a Tweet around 8:30 that this was happening on Wednesday and I blew it off as a "I'll believe it when I see it." I was privately messaging people throughout the morning that I was cautiously optimistic, but when it finally happened, I was weeping.
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Response to JackBeck (Reply #63)
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:01 AM
myrna minx (20,537 posts)
64. Almost everyone I love and cherish in my life is gay or lesbian.
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Last edited Fri May 11, 2012, 09:02 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Without the tireless efforts of activists like you on the front line and the brave souls who've publicly come out to put a human face on LGBTIQ equality, I think the equality would have advanced at a glacial pace. Just think back to the wounds of 2004 and nasty blame some flung at LGBTIQ for "losing the election" for seeking equality because it "wasn't the right time". Well, it never is the right time for some. But that attitude is for yesteryear. Look how far we've come in 8 years. Now is the time and it's in sight. |
Response to myrna minx (Reply #64)
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
65. My head spins when I think about how much progress has been made in the last 8 years.
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And to hear a sitting President affirm my 15 year relationship? Never thought it would happen in my lifetime.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:17 PM
DLevine (385 posts)
25. Awesome. Thank you, Mr President! n/t
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:21 PM
DevonRex (19,963 posts)
27. K&R.
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I'm glad he did it.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:24 PM
Whisp (17,212 posts)
30. good man. Thankyou, Mr. President
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:26 PM
Terra Alta (3,412 posts)
31. Way to go, Obama!
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Of course, this will likely cost him my bigoted state of NC, but kudos to him for standing up for what is right and not what is popular.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:32 PM
horseshoecrab (838 posts)
34. President Obama ...
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is a truly great President. A President for our times. To quote Nancy Pelosi, "A great day for civil rights."
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:58 PM
Arkana (22,242 posts)
37. This makes the ACA seem like a drop in the fucking ocean.
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It's HUGE. It's Lyndon Johnson saying "We Shall Overcome" in front of millions of people.
The MOUNTAINS of political taboos he just broke...my God, the floodgates are open. If he wins reelection it will open the way for future candidates to wholeheartedly endorse same-sex marriage. The party could make it a plank in their platform. Jesus. I...wow. Jesus Christ, I didn't think it would happen. A President who's running for reelection coming out and saying he thinks gays should be allowed to get married. Sure, you can dismiss this as a political move all you want--but doing it in a year where the stakes for reelection are in the fricking stratosphere... |
Response to Arkana (Reply #37)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:00 PM
Jon Ace (149 posts)
39. It hadn't fully hit me yet, but your words helped.
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Usually presidents wait until after they're re-elected or retired to say something like this.
History made today. |
Response to Jon Ace (Reply #39)
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
JackBeck (12,162 posts)
54. The Democratic Party will forever be changed with today's policy statement.
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From this moment on, there will never be a Democratic Presidential nominee who equivocates on LGBT social justice.
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Response to Arkana (Reply #37)
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:27 PM
liberalmuse (15,420 posts)
53. Very well put!
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And I have to say, if it was a political move, it was a risky one. I knew he would one day come out and support it, but I couldn't be happier that it was today. I had been waiting for his soothing words after the horrible NC bigotry move yesterday. Let's just say that once again, President Obama has exceeded my expectations.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:59 PM
Lugnut (8,716 posts)
38. Yesssss!
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Thank you, sir!
The bonus to this are the egg faced members of the media who beat up on VP Biden for speaking out of turn. Joe was floating a trial balloon and they took the bait. |
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:35 PM
Amaril (819 posts)
42. Awesome!
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Very proud of my president today.........well, proud of him pretty much EVERY day, but today.............
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:41 PM
azurnoir (26,694 posts)
43. Good for Obama it's about time
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the laws preventing Gays from marrying are no different from the laws that would have prevented his own parents from marrying
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:48 PM
mmonk (47,307 posts)
44. Two thumbs up.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:44 PM
chill_wind (13,475 posts)
47. This is huge. Well done!
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I'll be damned
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:47 PM
sofa king (8,709 posts)
48. Yay!
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This is thanks to us, you know. The President is banking on our support in this election, and we'd better deliver a straight-D tsunami if we want this to stick.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:56 PM
Wind Dancer (3,612 posts)
49. This is fantastic news!
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Thank you, Sir!
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:07 PM
uppityperson (74,279 posts)
56. Thank you for titling it marriage equality as that is what it is.
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:27 PM
ibegurpard (11,038 posts)
58. good for him!
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:29 PM
woo me with science (19,699 posts)
59. Hopefully it is the beginning of the rest of his evolution.
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He has now evolved to embrace the position Dick Cheney arrived at three years ago: that he is personally in favor of equal marriage but that he still considers it not a civil right, but a privilege that can be denied by states through voting.
Obama, 2012: http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 "'At a certain point I've just concluded that for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married,' Obama said in an interview with ABC News...The president said he supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own, ABC News reported." Cheney, 2009: Cheney supports same-sex marriage 'on a state-by-state basis' http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/02/nation/na-cheney2. "June 2, 2009 WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney waded into another roiling public debate Monday, saying he supports same-sex marriage as long as the issue is decided by states rather than the federal government." There is still much more evolving to do. |
Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 AM
TahitiNut (71,568 posts)
61. I'll go him one further ... I think same sex couples should be able to get divorced.
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After all, the joys of forming sanctioned relationships aren't complete until one wears the "brown helmet" of divorce.
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Response to JackBeck (Original post)
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:41 PM
rapturedbyrobots (400 posts)
62. hate to piss on the parade
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But he did NOT embrace marriage equality. He very carefully stated he thinks same sex couples SHOULD BE ABLE TO get married. Which as a lawyer he knows is entirely different than saying the have a RIGHT TO get married.
If you listen to the rest of the interview, he very clearly explains that he supports the right of individual states to decide this issue. So, he simultaneously pays lip service to marriage equality and validates Ammendment One. Way to triangulate! |


