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JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
Wed May 9, 2012, 02:59 PM May 2012

BREAKING: Obama Embraces Marriage Equality

By Igor Volsky on May 9, 2012 at 2:51 pm

President Obama has come out in support of marriage equality for gay and lesbian people in an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts this afternoon:


OBAMA: I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/09/481147/obama-marriage-2/

Video: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/obama-sex-marriage-legal-16312904

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BREAKING: Obama Embraces Marriage Equality (Original Post) JackBeck May 2012 OP
Bravo Mr. President! tallahasseedem May 2012 #1
He was in Albany the other day and had a meeting with Cuomo. JackBeck May 2012 #26
I think same sex couples should be able to get married bigtree May 2012 #2
THIS is a big, fucking deal. n/t JackBeck May 2012 #32
Oh, yes, it is! Yes indeed! swimboy May 2012 #46
Everyone's hard work and support have come to fruition. JackBeck May 2012 #51
WOOHOO! LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #3
K&R...nt SidDithers May 2012 #4
Way to go Obama maddezmom May 2012 #5
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #6
Special Report on ABC right now malaise May 2012 #7
Good cthulu2016 May 2012 #8
Thank goodness. Bolo Boffin May 2012 #9
So True!!!! Perfect summary of what this will do to the election too!!! Pachamama May 2012 #35
Awesome! About time! n/t backscatter712 May 2012 #10
BRAVO, Sir! hifiguy May 2012 #11
I'm very glad he said this FiveGoodMen May 2012 #12
well, the handwriting was on the wall and I guess he figured why not CTyankee May 2012 #24
For all those who keep telling many of us to STFU and support Lionessa May 2012 #13
he could probably use some of that support right now bigtree May 2012 #29
And it looks like he's getting it. Lionessa May 2012 #33
admirable strawman you just disposed of. dionysus May 2012 #41
Ever notice how they always take credit for anything Solomon May 2012 #45
Yeah, I knew that kind of post would surface soon enough. CakeGrrl May 2012 #57
Excellent! fishwax May 2012 #14
About fucking time nt nadine_mn May 2012 #15
yay!!! dana_b May 2012 #16
K&R redqueen May 2012 #17
Thank you, Mr. President! MineralMan May 2012 #18
My only question HarveyDarkey May 2012 #19
fuckin a!!! opiate69 May 2012 #20
The right thing to do. Jennicut May 2012 #21
From Texas hamsterjill May 2012 #22
IKR, heads will explode. Thank you Mr. President! TBF May 2012 #28
WooHoo! myrna minx May 2012 #23
A truly historic day for social justice and equality. JackBeck May 2012 #36
I'm still blown away. I wasn't expecting this at all. myrna minx May 2012 #60
You have always been such a vocal ally and we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you. JackBeck May 2012 #63
Almost everyone I love and cherish in my life is gay or lesbian. myrna minx May 2012 #64
My head spins when I think about how much progress has been made in the last 8 years. JackBeck May 2012 #65
Awesome. Thank you, Mr President! n/t DLevine May 2012 #25
K&R. DevonRex May 2012 #27
good man. Thankyou, Mr. President Whisp May 2012 #30
Way to go, Obama! Terra Alta May 2012 #31
President Obama ... horseshoecrab May 2012 #34
This makes the ACA seem like a drop in the fucking ocean. Arkana May 2012 #37
It hadn't fully hit me yet, but your words helped. Jon Ace May 2012 #39
The Democratic Party will forever be changed with today's policy statement. JackBeck May 2012 #54
Very well put! liberalmuse May 2012 #53
Yesssss! Lugnut May 2012 #38
K & R Scurrilous May 2012 #40
Awesome! Amaril May 2012 #42
Good for Obama it's about time azurnoir May 2012 #43
Two thumbs up. mmonk May 2012 #44
This is huge. Well done! chill_wind May 2012 #47
Yay! sofa king May 2012 #48
This is fantastic news! Wind Dancer May 2012 #49
k&r... spanone May 2012 #50
K&R SunSeeker May 2012 #52
k&r n/t RainDog May 2012 #55
Thank you for titling it marriage equality as that is what it is. uppityperson May 2012 #56
good for him! ibegurpard May 2012 #58
Hopefully it is the beginning of the rest of his evolution. woo me with science May 2012 #59
I'll go him one further ... I think same sex couples should be able to get divorced. TahitiNut May 2012 #61
hate to piss on the parade rapturedbyrobots May 2012 #62

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
2. I think same sex couples should be able to get married
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:00 PM
May 2012

oh boy! That's it, isn't it? He's in for the fight! Fucking HUGE!!!

I'm spreading this far and wide!

JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
51. Everyone's hard work and support have come to fruition.
Wed May 9, 2012, 06:56 PM
May 2012

While Amendment One in North Carolina was a devastating blow, we continue to tear down the barriers to social justice across the country.

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
9. Thank goodness.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:06 PM
May 2012

"Those that mind don't matter, and those that matter don't mind."

Thank you, President Obama.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
35. So True!!!! Perfect summary of what this will do to the election too!!!
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:36 PM
May 2012

This is most likely the realization that the Obama re-election team came to. My belief is that Obama has long believed how important civil rights, equal rights for all are....and like many People, strugggled with his feelings but ultimately realizing that discrimination against Gay people from having the same rights to marry and have families is wrong.

Im very proud to call him my President.....

PS: I was raised by Two Moms.....am a Mom myself now and am heterosexual. Raising kids has Nothing to do with whom you love, your sexual preference etc.....Shock!!!!!!!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. well, the handwriting was on the wall and I guess he figured why not
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:16 PM
May 2012

do it now, when the election is 6 months out. It will give the campaign lots of time to deal with any problems, altho I don't see any myself.

I guess we have Joe Biden to thank for causing the issue to be brought to a head...funny how things like that work out...

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
13. For all those who keep telling many of us to STFU and support
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:08 PM
May 2012

whatever Obama does, let this be a lesson. He told us to keep pushing him, and I see it has worked out for this issue.

SO STOP WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ALL LOVE AND ADORE AND SUPPORT EVERYTHING HE DOES EVERY MINUTE HE DOES IT!

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
33. And it looks like he's getting it.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:30 PM
May 2012

I think a lot of iffy, kind of dejected voters are pumped up now.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
45. Ever notice how they always take credit for anything
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:55 PM
May 2012

he does? LOL He only does good stuff because we made him do it.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
57. Yeah, I knew that kind of post would surface soon enough.
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:26 PM
May 2012

along with the 'regardless of his motives' Greenwaldian left-handed compliment posts.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
16. yay!!!
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
May 2012

I am so glad he finally said it. The crap he is going to take right now will be worth it in the end.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
17. K&R
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
May 2012

Feels good to have our President affirm this right. One step closer to being a civilised country.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
22. From Texas
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:13 PM
May 2012

I live in Texas, and I'm anticipating about half of the people I work with to start fainting any time now!!! LOL

Seriously, way to go, Mr. President.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
60. I'm still blown away. I wasn't expecting this at all.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:15 AM
May 2012
This is a truly historical moment. I think there's something in my eye...

JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
63. You have always been such a vocal ally and we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:06 PM
May 2012

It took me by surprise, as well. I got a Tweet around 8:30 that this was happening on Wednesday and I blew it off as a "I'll believe it when I see it." I was privately messaging people throughout the morning that I was cautiously optimistic, but when it finally happened, I was weeping.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
64. Almost everyone I love and cherish in my life is gay or lesbian.
Fri May 11, 2012, 09:01 AM
May 2012
I have a dream that my LGBTIQ brothers and sisters have the same universal human rights and equal protection granted to(and sometimes taken for granted by) straights, and it's within sight, my friend.

Without the tireless efforts of activists like you on the front line and the brave souls who've publicly come out to put a human face on LGBTIQ equality, I think the equality would have advanced at a glacial pace. Just think back to the wounds of 2004 and nasty blame some flung at LGBTIQ for "losing the election" for seeking equality because it "wasn't the right time". Well, it never is the right time for some. But that attitude is for yesteryear. Look how far we've come in 8 years.

Now is the time and it's in sight.

JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
65. My head spins when I think about how much progress has been made in the last 8 years.
Fri May 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
May 2012

And to hear a sitting President affirm my 15 year relationship? Never thought it would happen in my lifetime.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
31. Way to go, Obama!
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:26 PM
May 2012

Of course, this will likely cost him my bigoted state of NC, but kudos to him for standing up for what is right and not what is popular.

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
34. President Obama ...
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:32 PM
May 2012

is a truly great President. A President for our times. To quote Nancy Pelosi, "A great day for civil rights."





horseshoecrab

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
37. This makes the ACA seem like a drop in the fucking ocean.
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:58 PM
May 2012

It's HUGE. It's Lyndon Johnson saying "We Shall Overcome" in front of millions of people.

The MOUNTAINS of political taboos he just broke...my God, the floodgates are open. If he wins reelection it will open the way for future candidates to wholeheartedly endorse same-sex marriage. The party could make it a plank in their platform.

Jesus. I...wow. Jesus Christ, I didn't think it would happen. A President who's running for reelection coming out and saying he thinks gays should be allowed to get married. Sure, you can dismiss this as a political move all you want--but doing it in a year where the stakes for reelection are in the fricking stratosphere...

Jon Ace

(243 posts)
39. It hadn't fully hit me yet, but your words helped.
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:00 PM
May 2012

Usually presidents wait until after they're re-elected or retired to say something like this.

History made today.

JackBeck

(12,359 posts)
54. The Democratic Party will forever be changed with today's policy statement.
Wed May 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
May 2012

From this moment on, there will never be a Democratic Presidential nominee who equivocates on LGBT social justice.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
53. Very well put!
Wed May 9, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

And I have to say, if it was a political move, it was a risky one. I knew he would one day come out and support it, but I couldn't be happier that it was today. I had been waiting for his soothing words after the horrible NC bigotry move yesterday. Let's just say that once again, President Obama has exceeded my expectations.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
38. Yesssss!
Wed May 9, 2012, 03:59 PM
May 2012

Thank you, sir!

The bonus to this are the egg faced members of the media who beat up on VP Biden for speaking out of turn. Joe was floating a trial balloon and they took the bait.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
42. Awesome!
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:35 PM
May 2012

Very proud of my president today.........well, proud of him pretty much EVERY day, but today.............

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
43. Good for Obama it's about time
Wed May 9, 2012, 04:41 PM
May 2012

the laws preventing Gays from marrying are no different from the laws that would have prevented his own parents from marrying

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
48. Yay!
Wed May 9, 2012, 05:47 PM
May 2012

This is thanks to us, you know. The President is banking on our support in this election, and we'd better deliver a straight-D tsunami if we want this to stick.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
59. Hopefully it is the beginning of the rest of his evolution.
Wed May 9, 2012, 10:29 PM
May 2012

He has now evolved to embrace the position Dick Cheney arrived at three years ago: that he is personally in favor of equal marriage but that he still considers it not a civil right, but a privilege that can be denied by states through voting.


Obama, 2012:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

"'At a certain point I've just concluded that for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married,' Obama said in an interview with ABC News...The president said he supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own, ABC News reported."



Cheney, 2009:

Cheney supports same-sex marriage 'on a state-by-state basis'
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/02/nation/na-cheney2.

"June 2, 2009 WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Dick Cheney waded into another roiling public debate Monday, saying he supports same-sex marriage as long as the issue is decided by states rather than the federal government."


There is still much more evolving to do.

TahitiNut

(71,611 posts)
61. I'll go him one further ... I think same sex couples should be able to get divorced.
Thu May 10, 2012, 08:52 AM
May 2012

After all, the joys of forming sanctioned relationships aren't complete until one wears the "brown helmet" of divorce.


rapturedbyrobots

(400 posts)
62. hate to piss on the parade
Thu May 10, 2012, 12:41 PM
May 2012

But he did NOT embrace marriage equality. He very carefully stated he thinks same sex couples SHOULD BE ABLE TO get married. Which as a lawyer he knows is entirely different than saying the have a RIGHT TO get married.

If you listen to the rest of the interview, he very clearly explains that he supports the right of individual states to decide this issue. So, he simultaneously pays lip service to marriage equality and validates Ammendment One. Way to triangulate!

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