Seriously DUers do you think HRC might implode

[mylye2222]

following the all -mainly by RW spreaded but not all-allegations re Clinton Foundation donations?

I think yes if another thing comes to light .

[Dream Girl]

1. I think she could

She's not even a month in and I don't think it's going that well. There is a loooong way to go and she has lots of baggage. They have had plenty of time to prepare. I'm sure there will be lots of dirt to come.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Hopefully, yes.

[gwheezie]

3. no

Several people have been elected inspite of themselves.

[MannyGoldstein]

5. I think her campaign will unravel pretty quickly

For all kinds of reasons. She's built the Maginot Line of campaigns.

But as we saw after she was essentially eliminated for the 2008 nomination but stayed in the race anyway just to cause trouble for Obama, she won't let reality influence her campaign decisions.

[Agschmid]

11. Revisionist history?

[hrmjustin]

27. In which alternate universe did this happen?

[LittleBlue]

33. "She's built the Maginot Line of campaigns."

Haha, well put. I hope you're right

[leveymg]

39. HRC Led Zeppeline Campaign: impressively big but overinflated, and overloaded with too much baggage

[JoePhilly]

42. So does she unravel before, or after, Obama cuts Social Security?

[MannyGoldstein]

47. Since Obama seems to have hit a dead-end in those efforts

I'd go with "before"

[JoePhilly]

48. Prognosticating-Manny has spoken!!

Which bodes well for Hillary.

[daredtowork]

66. Schlieffen Plan

She thought her blitzkrieg was going to take it all.

[djean111]

6. I don't know - I pretty much do not read anything about that sort of thing.

I just don't like war, fracking, the TPP/TTIP, things like that.

[brooklynite]

7. Because you asked - seriously - I'll answer - seriously -.....

Of course not. Do you - seriously - think the average voter worried about job security, income, retirement, health care costs, education, etc. is paying a minute's attention to this story?

[justiceischeap]

9. I agree. The only people paying attention to this story

are people who aren't going to support her anyway. People are not as hooked in to politics as most people on DU, so when looking through the DU lens, everything is magnified.

[Agschmid]

12. Yup.

[Adrahil]

8. No. This is all sound and fury signifying nothing.

But hey, I've been wrong before.

[pampango]

10. I often wonder if candidates I don't support will implode since illogical or irrational policies

is usually the reason that I don't support them. I figure that a campaign spent defending such policies should make an implosion likely.

Hillary does not show up on my list of such candidates though I disagree with her on some issues and prefer Bernie.

[KittyWampus]

13. Yes, but I'm sure it'll be the Vince Foster revelations.

[PeaceNikki]

14. No

[Vinca]

15. No. This is "same old, same old" for the Clintons.

Remember 1992 - 2000 when every Clinton sneeze warranted a special investigator? The only thing that turned out to be true was a blow job. And Hillary wasn't involved.

[dembotoz]

16. i worshiped Jon Edwards. yes we need a plan b

The advantage of a clown car is the safety of numbers

[Gothmog]

17. No, I do not think that she will implode

[winter is coming]

18. I doubt it. The "another thing" would have to be significant and unequivocal.

I think she's more likely to shoot herself in the foot responding to something Bernie says.

[MoonRiver]

19. No

But I think the rw heads, who are pushing the faux scandals, will explode when she is elected president.

[Orsino]

20. No.

But the dumbass MSM will surely seize on any chance to equate the Foundation with the Kochs and dark money.

[99Forever]

21. HRC will implode.

It's what she does best.

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. Very unlikely. If a populist fever sets in she can possibly be beaten, but implode, no.

Americans have a pretty real grip on who Hillary is, real or fictitious baggage and all. Whatever "sins" average Americans might find her guilty of are already priced in, details about the latest so called scandal might swirl around and change, but the big picture of who she is remains the same. Hillary is a smart tough political figure who consistently exhibits more competence than the average American political leader, who repeatedly expresses values and priorities more in keeping with a majority of Americans than those professed by her Republican opponents. She will not implode over allegations of money potentially buying access to or influence with her. Americans understand that money runs rampant in America - it's a given. They also know that the Republican party is built on a foundation of money buying influence.

[SidDithers]

23. Yes. We get it...

You don't like the Clintons.

Sid

[mylye2222]

24. My OP wasnt an attack

It happens. Look at John Edwards in 2008. He was quite popular then imploded after his extra marrital affair was revealed. And conflict of interest is a far more important questionnable thing than "srx scandals".

[Agschmid]

44. By conflict of interest what do you mean?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Absurd...

If she was to drop out of the race she would be conceding her, her husband, and her daughter are corrupt. That will never happen.

[hrmjustin]

26. No.

[LordGlenconner]

28. Sounds more like wishful thinking on your part

[AgingAmerican]

29. She won't implode based on non scandals

If she implodes it will be because she goes negative, like the last time she imploded.

Self destruct is a better term.

[BeeBee]

30. No. n/t

[blm]

31. I think there will be no implosion, and the corporate media's desire to legitimize 'ClintonCash'

the same way they sought to legitimize GOP witch hunts like Whitewater and Benghazi is utter horseshit - and I say that as a well-established critic of the Clintons.

Being a REAL critic of the Clintons here at DU should require a sense of discernment - carrying GOP/RW lie machines' pails of horseshit for them and actually reaching into the pail to grab and toss that horseshit around verbatim will never be something to just excuse away as legitimate debate.

[MADem]

32. Oh, yeah, suuuure! She'll "implode" over a stupid book that even the GOP is running from?

What planet did that foolish hope come from?

You really ought to use Google and check for updates on the smears you're repeating. When even shithole wingnut scuzzball rightwing websites like NEWSMAX (the CEO of NEWSMAX, in fact) say that the story has no legs, you can be sure that the GOP isn't going to use any of the material (cough pack of lies cough) in that book.

That dog couldn't hunt before the book was even released. You're dragging a dead animal in the DU house. You should consider dropping this line of "inquiry" lest people begin to suspect your motives.

[mylye2222]

34. Haha. Always the same meme.

"Either You Are With Us, Or You Are With RWers" Cant wait for you stating Bernie is a RW tool to sonce he stated Clinton Money issue as much of a problem as Koch money worshippers.

Hillary Clinton has a conflict of interest problem. Deal with it. She broke the ethics agreement qhe sealed with Obama. That is facts. No fiction.
The Clinton Foundation was fueld with foreign money WHILE she was serving at State. Fact. No fiction.

[MADem]

35. No--the "meme" here is that you didn't do any research before you flung shit.

If you had, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself with a dumb-ass OP about a story that has been discredited for SEVERAL DAYS now.

Like I said, keep on keeping on--by your words we will know you. You're already showing us your .... hand ... with your comments to me.

Nothing wrong with differing on actual ISSUES--but when you recycle failed smears, some of that shit IS going to wind up on you, and you've only YOURSELF to blame.

So ... get over yourself-- and your "ha ha."

[mylye2222]

37. Yeah. A conflict of interest "fiction "

that everyone knows happened!

Sad how the fact of being popular and the safety of a huge network bought Hillary's soul. She was good as a First Lady....

[MADem]

38. Which is why the RIGHTWING are discrediting it....? Please--get your facts in order, or don't

bother. You're spinning, now. It's embarrassing and cringeworthy to see on this website.

When Clinton's ENEMIES are holding their noses and saying "Geez, that book is utter shit--I'm not going to disgrace myself by giving it any credit or play" you might consider taking their hint.

You keep digging that hole, and it's not helping your argument or your credibility.

[Agschmid]

45. Yup.

[Xyzse]

36. Doubt it.

Only thing I could say is, that beyond the hallowed halls of DU and wherever the opposites shrithe, there are the regulars, who only tell me that the only person they know is Hillary and that she will probably win.

Yes, I have quite a few people I know who avoid and don't like thinking about politics.
They will not be paying much attention till probably next year.

There are many things that could happen between now and then. Stating that, she is the current brand that people beyond here would probably flock to.

This is by no means an endorsement of HRC, I would support Sanders, O'Malley and others before her, but as I mention time and again... whomever wins the Democratic primary is the one I will vote for in the General Election.

I doubt that she would implode, as many of the things being talked about could easily be explained as the cost of doing business.

[JoePhilly]

40. No.

[zappaman]

41. yes. She is a woman and women are weak.

I'm surprised she made it this far without crying.

This might be necessary for some...

[Buns_of_Fire]

43. Only if something really, REALLY unexpected pops up.

And I have no doubt that her team is doing everything they can to prevent that from happening.

[Zorra]

46. No, and it would be a setback for all Democrats if that happened. nt

[Orrex]

49. Seirously? After all the scandals she's weathered over the decades?

Yeah, I'm sure she's losing a lot of sleep over it.

[lovemydog]

50. No.

There's strong support for her and she's a strong woman.

[0rganism]

51. it would have to be a fuckup of monumental proportions

the Clintons have put up with plenty of RW manure over the years, i think they've found a way to use it as fertilizer.
Benghazi isn't going to sink her.
her private email server isn't going to sink her.
funky accounting practices aren't going to sink her.
astroturfy "listening tours" aren't going to sink her.

she'd have to do something really nasty to torpedo her campaign. right now, i can't think of what that would be, but it would have to be something ... special.

[Sheepshank]

52. Nope...most will see this as just another RW Benghazi! that goes no where.

What HRC's foundation does or doesn't do, isn't as important a what HRC can do for women's rights, abortion rights, minimum wage increases, safeguarding and growing HCA, protecting social security from privitization etc etc. She is still solid with those important issues.

[JustAnotherGen]

53. Nope - not gonna happen!

[Thinkingabout]

54. NO, I don't think Hillary will implode but I can see where a lot of others will implode.

[seabeyond]

55. no. seriously. nt

[liberal N proud]

56. I think that all the dirt that has been thrown at her has shown her strength and resolve

Any normal person might have already folded and receded into the shadows. But Hillary has shown great resolve in how she has stood up in the face of all the fabricated controversy.

One more thing? How many one more things have already come to light and passed?

[840high]

57. I hope so.

[Politicalboi]

58. Are you kidding

This IS her environment. Hillary's right at home here. Scandal Queen, although there were no scandals. LOL! The GOP won't put the real pressure on till next summer. They'll throw Monica at her.

[Arugula Latte]

59. Yes, if the difference between internal and external air pressure becomes too great.

Oh, wait, you meant in a non-scientific way.

Hmm, I don't know.

Vamos a ver.

[Depaysement]

60. No

Hillary is an excellent politician. She's not exactly running the GBI or Foundation. These are Bill and Chelsea's toys. The accusations surrounding the donations are pretty baseless accusations as far as I can see; no quid pro quo, no personal benefit to her.

[hifiguy]

61. I think there is a significant non-zero probability

she could implode. She has a closet that is bursting with skeletons and policies and voluntary associations (war criminal Kissinger, Dimon, Blankfein) that are, shall we say, quite unsavory.

I make it at least 35%.

May it come to pass.

[Andy823]

62. Nope

But a whole lot of people on DU will implode if she wins the nomination and they can't trasher anymore here on DU. What will they do?

[Oktober]

63. 30 % implode / 70% skates through

Only because her crisis management and responses to past scandals have been so poor and if a big bomb drops I don't think she'll make it.

[SidDithers]

64. Kick...nt

Sid

[MineralMan]

65. Oh, you bet she will. She'll suddenly dissolve in tears

and abruptly withdraw from the race. You can bet on it. That's her style, as we've seen so many times in the past. How insightful you are.

[Bobbie Jo]

67. Nope

Highly unlikely.

Sorry...

[lindysalsagal]

68. Nothing bothers her. Not even the 100,000 innocent iraqis who died because she and the other cowards

in the senate knew better and sent us in to occupy Iraq, anyway.

I'm not worried about Hillary. She survives everything.

The question is, will the middle class survive her?

[wyldwolf]

69. Sander's campaign has a better chance of imploding