Some days its just not worth chewing through the restraints

[madokie]

if it ain't her logo its how the lady looks or something she did years ago.

[liberal N proud]

1. When they are complaining about logos and pictures they are just looking for a reason

And some just need to find a reason to hate.

[madokie]

2. Yup

so shallow

[Thinkingabout]

3. Cognitive dissonance feeds the need for some.

[MineralMan]

4. Whatever Hillary Clinton does will be

trashed by some. The right will trash everything. So, I suppose, will those who oppose her from the other end of the political spectrum. We're going to see it every time her campaign does anything.

It's primary season now. So, expect to see the best and the worst of opinions here.

[tridim]

5. Is any valid criticism still allowed?

Because it's starting to sound like some DU'ers don't want to allow any at all. That is scary.

I sincerely hope that isn't the goal here, for DU's sake.

[madokie]

7. Valid criticism is one thing

This nonsense that we're seeing here is not Valid though

[tridim]

8. I hope you're right.

Because DU has had long stretches of suckiness because some people decided that ANY criticism is invalid and is immediately alertable.

[bahrbearian]

15. " or things she did years ago" I guess her past is not Valid ?

I guess we shouldn't criticize Bush because it was years ago

[rufus dog]

9. It ain't valid criticism.

It is pure fucking trivial inane mind fucking numbing drivel.

It is what I expect to come from the idiot right wingers and bluntly I am extremely disappointed to see it at DU and even worse see it defended.

[rufus dog]

6. Sorry, I am not a Clinton fan and have this to say

to the posters focusing on logos, pictures, without offering any serious substance...... Shut the F up!

Criticism based on substance is fine, bit good god these people need to go back and read the inane fucking drivel they are posting and take a time out.

[jeff47]

10. "Something she did years ago" is the entire basis of her campaign.

What is supposed to make Clinton a good candidate is her lengthy track record.

If you have virtually no track record (ex: Obama), we're going to have to base an assessment of you mostly on what you say during your campaign.

If you have a loooooong track record (ex: Clinton), we're going to be able to base an assessment on that track record. Because we know lots of pretty things get said that don't lead anywhere (ex: Obama, again).

[Dawgs]

11. "something she did years ago"

Does that mean we can't talk about her vote for Bush's illegal war anymore?

[madokie]

12. At that point She like many of us Americans were lied to like we were dogs

So I don't hold that particular vote against her. She was acting on cooked intelligence. Right straight out of the Vice presidents kitchen. After all he was the Vice pResident and many took him for his word, again at that point in time.

She also tried to get us some kind of health care back when she was just first Lady.

[Arugula Latte]

13. I don't buy that she didn't get what was up.

We here on DU knew the "explanation" for the invasion/war was a large crock o' crap, and she probably did too, as did the other Democrats who voted for it (and, most of the Republicans). The Republicans voted "yes" on corporate profits, and the Democrats who voted yes were voting for their own political hides, not to save The American People from those nefarious Iraqis who were gonna blow us to kingdom come.

[madokie]

14. I'm not saying she didn't

I'm just saying I'm not going to not vote for her because of that one vote, is all.

[Arugula Latte]

16. Okay, I was responding to your "she was lied to" statement.

But, yeah, I'll vote for her if/when she's the nominee, for the Supreme Court if nothing else. And I hope Scalia croaks the minute she's sworn in.

[madokie]

18. I'm hoping her winning will be what makes him croak

if she wins.

It matters not to me as I'm going to vote Democratic no matter who is the nominee. Our worst is worlds better than the best the 'CONs have to offer so its a no brainer for me

[Arugula Latte]

19. Totally agree.

[ScreamingMeemie]

17. As Lincoln Chafee said this weekend,"I was in the same room with the same information..."

You are right. All of the Republicans, save one. Whose conscience couldn't let him be a Republican anymore.

I do "love" how this is being pushed to a "rear view mirror" thing when it still has massive ramifications and aftershocks.