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Ron Paul is currently surging in the polls, especially in Iowa. So, let the dirt be dug up and the skeletons unearthed. The good folks over at Mediaite discovered this little Ron Paul gem from 2007. During an appearance on Meet The Press with the late Tim Russert, Paul said that he would have favored a federal slaveholder bailout over the Civil War. Such a bailout would have required the government to buy 4 million slaves and then set them free. Russert asked about Pauls comments to The Washington Post regarding Abraham Lincoln, slavery, and the Civil War.
RUSSERT: I was intrigued by your comments about Abe Lincoln. According to Paul, Abe Lincoln should never have gone to war; there were better ways of getting rid of slavery.
PAUL: Absolutely. Six hundred thousand Americans died in a senseless civil war. No, he shouldnt have gone to war. He did this just to enhance and get rid of the original intent of the republic. I mean, it was that iron fist
RUSSERT: Wed still have slavery.
PAUL: Oh, come on. Slavery was phased out in every other country of the world. And the way Im advising that it should have been done is do like the British empire did. You buy the slaves and release them. How much would that cost compared to killing 600,000 Americans and where the hatred lingered for 100 years? Every other major country in the world got rid of slavery without a civil war. I mean, that doesnt sound too radical to me. That sounds like a pretty reasonable approach.
Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/12/23/flashback-ron-paul-believed-that-the-federal-government-should-have-paid-off-slave-masters-to-free-the-slaves/
O_o So he's not for govt subsidies- except to pay slaveholders for their 'losses'?
William769
(55,148 posts)Having already disavowed racist rhetoric in newsletters sent out under his name, Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul is now having to explain a warning about a federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS.
The statement came in a direct-mail advertisement for Pauls political and investment newsletters in the 1990s, Reuters reports. The ad, in the form of a letter signed by Paul, also predicted that a race war would break out in U.S. cities and that the federal government planned to redesign currency so it could be used to track Americans activities.
Paul has already said he did not write or endorse the racist passages in his newsletters and had no knowledge of them, and a spokesman for his campaign today told Talking Points Memo that the candidate did not write that mail piece and disavows its content. Paul also told reporters this week that various statements in the newsletters are at odds with his political positions, such as supporting open service by gay people in the military.
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/12/23/Antigay_Statements_Turn_Up_in_Ron_Paul_Literature/
MADem
(135,425 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Some one should ask him if we should find the ancestors of the slave owners and pay them REPARATIONS!!!!
aquart
(69,014 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)My "favorite" quote from his newsletter was advice from a supposed retired cop on how to kill a "young black" trying to carjack you (it's the "hip-hop thing to do." )(PARAPHRASED): Flee the scene, and dispose of your unregistered handgun (from the 'Classifieds') after wiping it down to remove fingerprints.
Paul's excuse? He didn't write such things, doesn't know who did, and didn't read his own newsletter. So, apparently he's just so incredibly stupid that he didn't notice newsletters printed in his name, specialized in eye-popping racist content, often with his byline.
Galraedia
(5,027 posts)Ron Paul told the Houston Chronicle that he opposed racism and his commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time." In other words, he didn't deny writing the Ron Paul column in the Ron Paul newsletter, profits of which go to Ron Paul, until many years later. Then he claimed that his campaign aides thought it would be "too confusing" to tell the truth, so he had to lie and accept responsibility.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So, Dr. Paul, you're saying that you didn't write the newsletter with your name on it. You didn't read it. You just put it out there. For what - some altruistic effort to get young writers a publishing history? If the word "altruistic" doesn't cause him to faint dead away, you can then ask, How much money did you make off this little newsletter you didn't read and didn't write, and barely had anything to do with? Do you think it's proper or fair to make that much money off of someone else's work? Do you consider yourself a leech then? Why or why not?
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Buh. Bye.
WingDinger
(3,690 posts)Letum eat Jim Crow.
CanonRay
(14,118 posts)and the idea was rejected by Southern congressional representatives.
LeftinOH
(5,358 posts)The peoples' taxes used to pay slaveowners? Was the the free-labor-based economy of the South supposed to just grin and bear it? There would have been war anyways, but instead of nominally being about "states rights", it would have been most definitely about slavery (and taxes).
Galraedia
(5,027 posts)In 1861, Lincoln dangled the carrot of federal dollars in front of the slaveowners in the Border States. He'd pay them $400 per slave to free them. There were no takers. The next year, Lincoln, even arm twisted Congress to pass a resolution providing for payment to the slaveowners in the Border States and elsewhere. That went nowhere too.
The slave masters understood something that Paul doesn't. Slavery was not an aberrant, patchwork system that consigned a few million luckless blacks to hard, unpaid labor. Slavery was a cornerstone of the Southern economy. It wove personal lifestyle, custom, and comfort together for the benefit of the slave owners. The rebels never indicated they were willing to sell off their slaves. The "peculiar institution" of owning human beings dominated the political and economic culture of the states that seceded. In March 1861, a few weeks before Lincoln's inauguration, the newly-minted Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens explained that the new government rested "upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition."
Also, keep in mind that there was no federal income tax until 1861, when it was implemented to fund the war.
Boston_Chemist
(256 posts)This guy is a real piece of work.
He uses the British Empire as a good example of how to do these things. I find this to be subtly unpatriotic, and also dangerous: The English were experimenting with strict mercantilism at the time, egged on by the bastards at The Economist, which resulted in the famine conditions in Ireland.
derby378
(30,252 posts)Not condoning Paul's remarks, but sometimes, if you get rid of the supply, the demand will take care of itself.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)the concentration camp (during the Boer War in South Africa).
former9thward
(32,082 posts)The Constitution allowed slave trade up until 1808. After that Congress prohibited slave importation into the U.S. By the time of the Civil War almost all slaves had been born in the U.S. The federal government could have bought out the slaves, saved 600,000 lives and endless generations of hatred. There would be no demand because there would be no way of supplying it.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I'm glad this is all going viral, since that doesn't seem to be the case.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)fishwax
(29,149 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)cannonade compelled surrender of the fort, was Lincoln supposed to just pretend that insurrection had not happened?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Which, of course, is to benefit those who own all of the property.
Such little regard for those who don't own much, or any, property.
They are afterthoughts, and not worthy of much of anything (certainly not respect or love according to Ayn Rand).
no_hypocrisy
(46,191 posts)the South would continue buying new slaves.
Yeah, that would've worked . . . .
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)provis99
(13,062 posts)oh wait, we did!
Galraedia
(5,027 posts)Ron Paul's position, taken to its logical conclusion, means that liberty gives personal property owners the right to deny liberty to others.