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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPurvi Patel petition... PLEASE sign!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/issue-full-and-immediate-pardon-indiana-resident-purvi-patelhttp://action.rhrealitycheck.org/page/s/condemning-indiana
However, Purvi Patel is the second woman Indiana prosecutors have brought criminal charges against over birth outcomes in recent years, as well as the second Asian American woman so targeted. [4] Women of color, immigrants, and low-income women are particularly vulnerable under feticide laws because they often lack access to healthcare and counseling.
In other countries where abortion is illegal and where women experiencing miscarriages and stillbirths have been criminalized and punished with lengthy prison terms, these policies appear to coincide with increased suicide rates in pregnancy and avoidance of medical care. [5]
For these reasons, we condemn the government of the State of Indiana for their abuses of Purvi Patel's human rights. We call upon Governor Pence and state policymakers to stand up for Purvi Patel. We call upon lawmakers to repeal the state's feticide law and make clear that it is not Indiana's intention to send women to jail for having abortions or for experiencing miscarriages or stillbirths.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense. Accordingly, if you are seeking clemency for a state criminal conviction, you should not complete and submit this petition. Instead, you should contact the Governor or other appropriate authorities of the state where you reside or where the conviction occurred (such as the state board of pardons and paroles) to determine whether any relief is available to you under state law. If you have a federal conviction, information about the conviction may be obtained from the clerk of the federal court where you were convicted.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)for the sake of all women... this information came from IRCRC and even if the one petition is awry, anything we can do to bring attention is good...
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)caraher
(6,278 posts)You'd have better luck taking it to the White House even if Obama wouldn't have legal authority to pardon...
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)PumpkinAle
(1,210 posts)This is the world according to the fundies and it is a cold, scary world for women.
Petition signed.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)it is scary for some women... I feel safe enough, but I will fight for my daughters and granddaughters and all vulnerable women that need support
calimary
(81,269 posts)This:
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handmade34
(22,756 posts)calimary
(81,269 posts)That young woman's sign just shouts across the decades! She just SO LOUDLY speaks for me! 'Cause I, TOO, Cannot Believe I STILL Have To Protest This Shit!!
Fuck it. I may even go have a t-shirt made of this photo. If I were into tattoos (which I'm not), I'd be thinking where to have it done on me - maybe on my upper left arm, at the shoulder. THIS is the photo of the year, as far as I'm concerned. Whoever this woman is, I'd love to meet her someday and give her a big hug and just say a big loud "THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!"
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)unless we do something about it...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/magazine/purvi-patel-could-be-just-the-beginning.html?_r=0
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Warpy
(111,264 posts)Failing that, then definitely she needs a full and immediate pardon.
The only thing they've got is improper disposal of medical waste.
Were it possible to imprison the male tyrants who did this to her, I would.
However, the whole case and conviction need to be thrown out. It was a pile of lies.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)and sad all around... but the truth is that Purvi Patel is paying a price for very many injustices that exist in our society...
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/01/magazine/purvi-patel-could-be-just-the-beginning.html?ref=magazine
trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 2, 2015, 02:23 AM - Edit history (1)
is not a stretch of the imagination.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Despite the "Presidents can't pardon state law convictions" thing.
Not nearly enough is being said about this case, this issue, and this insane Handmaiden's Tale world being created here.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)nt.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)metalbot
(1,058 posts)What happend to Purvi Patel is atrocious - there's no way she should have been charged as she was, but the narrative that this woman "just had a miscarriage" is fundamentally telling a half truth.
1. Woman shows up at hospital with severe bleeding, appears to have given birth
2. Woman repeatedly denies having given birth
3. Doctors call police because they are worried that there might be an abandoned baby
4. Woman finally admits she was 2 months pregnant, had a miscarriage, and dumped the body in a dumpster
5. Police recover body, doctors believe she was more like 6 months pregnant
6. Woman continues to insist to investigators that she was only 2 months pregnant, and this was a spontaneous miscarriage
7. Police, on search warrant, discover from text messages that she knew she was much more pregnant than 2 months, and that she had ordered drugs to terminate the pregnancy from Hong Kong.
None of that is murder, or fetal homicide. But it's also not "OMG - if you have a miscarriage in Indiana, you need to worry that you might go to jail!"
The specific text of this:
"No woman should have to worry when having a miscarriage or stillbirth that the medical professionals she goes to for help will become her informants. She shouldn't have to worry that police will show up to her hospital room and question her without a lawyer present while she's recovering from severe blood loss and physical trauma. But this is exactly what happened to Purvi Patel, against all decency and common sense. It should never happen to anyone."
...is pure crap.
Seriously? Are we suggesting that doctors, when a woman comes in who has obviously just given birth but insists that she hasn't, should NOT call police? Or that the police shouldn't come talk to her right away in case there is an actual live abandoned baby? Because I'm pretty sure that there are lots of cases of women abandoning newborn babies. I'm guessing here - just guessing - that the number of women who abandon new born babies is slightly higher than the number of women who have miscarriages and then lie to doctors about being pregnant after dumping their fetus behind a restaurant.
Now, if you want to argue about the laws that she's charged under, or the way that the prosecution handled this, I'm all ears. But let's not claim somehow that anyone involved in this for the first 4 hours acted improperly (with possibly exception of a doctor on the scene of the fetus who may have used sketchy science).
handmade34
(22,756 posts)and no half truths
the details of this case have been discussed and all are open about it... and yes, it is imperative that we address this
Trillo
(9,154 posts)And no, I don't mean this facetiously. It seems a rather serious issue.
Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)Here's the link to send an email to Indiana's governor:
http://in.gov/gov/2333.htm I sent this note:
As long as Purvi Patel is in prison, I will boycott and badmouth Indiana.
I won't visit Indiana, I won't traverse Indiana, I won't buy a tank of gas in Indiana.
At least once per day, I will post somewhere on the Internet that Indiana is an evil cesspool, full of people who call themselves Christian but exhibit the compassion of Lucifer.
Indiana is EVIL for torturing Ms. Patel after the suffering she has already gone through. Indiana is EVIL for making women suffering life-threatening miscarriages be fearful of their local hospital.
Do my words hurt your feelings, Governor? Then sign a full pardon of Ms. Patel. Today.