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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:39 AM Mar 2015

AT&T plans to watch your Web browsing; opting out could cost you $700+/year

Source: Ars Technica

If you have AT&’s gigabit Internet service and wonder why it seems so affordable, here's the reason—AT&T is boosting profits by rerouting all your Web browsing to an in-house traffic scanning platform, analyzing your Internet habits, then using the results to deliver personalized ads to the websites you visit, e-mail to your inbox, and junk mail to your front door.

In a few select areas including Austin, Texas, and Kansas City, Missouri—places where AT&T competes against the $70-per-month Google Fiber—Ma Bell offers its own $70-per-month "GigaPower" fiber-to-the-home Internet access. But signing up for the deal also opts customers in to AT&T’s “Internet Preferences” program, which gives the company permission to examine each customer’s Web traffic in exchange for a price that matches Google's.

... AT&T says Internet Preferences tracks "the webpages you visit, the time you spend on each, the links or ads you see and follow, and the search terms you enter.” This helps AT&T serve ads targeted to each user based on that person’s interests. ... The personalized offers don't just appear on websites, they also come "via e-mail or through direct mail," AT&T says. "If you search for concert tickets, you may receive offers and ads related to restaurants near the concert venue. ... You can't opt out from AT&T's e-mail spam without paying the higher price.

... To find out exactly how much it costs to opt out of traffic scanning and personalized ads, you have to go through AT&T’s checkout process. GigaOm’s Stacey Higginbotham tested this last month and found that for bundled services including TV, the privacy fee was actually as high as $66 per month.

... Using the Web often entails sacrificing a bit of privacy, but AT&T’s program has alarmed even jaded privacy experts. An Internet service provider keeping track of your Web browsing in order to serve personalized ads is more concerning than a website doing so, Kenneth White, a security researcher and co-director of the Open Crypto Audit Project, told Ars.

Read more: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/atts-plan-to-watch-your-web-browsing-and-what-you-can-do-about-it/

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AT&T plans to watch your Web browsing; opting out could cost you $700+/year (Original Post) Newsjock Mar 2015 OP
One of many reasons I'm dropping AT&T in June when Google Fiber becomes active in my neighboorhood hobbit709 Mar 2015 #1
Kind of a "pick yer poison" kind of deal. Initech Mar 2015 #7
I cured Google of sending me spam. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #19
I did not know about that abuse@ option...thanks. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2015 #20
Clearly this can be resolved through deregulation. arcane1 Mar 2015 #2
Tor Browser? VPN? villager Mar 2015 #3
Thinking the same thing about VPN Jon82 Mar 2015 #11
So first the Telecoms break the law by violating people's privacy. Congress helps them out sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #4
Google, which suddenly became the mega giant TIA a few years ago Rex Mar 2015 #6
Meh. Google has been doing that for years. Rex Mar 2015 #5
Like 'villager' said, it's not a big deal Yorktown Mar 2015 #8
So how are they going to stop VPNs? davidn3600 Mar 2015 #9
And some fools think that no one knows your voting behavior... Bonobo Mar 2015 #10
So they decided to admit they're still spying on us so they can charge us not to? winter is coming Mar 2015 #12
Wait a minute- shouldn't they be paying me $700 a year for this? NBachers Mar 2015 #13
I have been thinking about switching to Credo. oldandhappy Mar 2015 #14
credo mobile doesnt track and they take part of your bill and donate it to democratic causes. Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #21
giggle! oldandhappy Mar 2015 #22
K and fucking R. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #15
I had AT&T 7 years ago; Then, while I was working online from home, the service died... C Moon Mar 2015 #16
And in the final step of fascism...... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #17
vpn. n/t PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #18

Initech

(100,121 posts)
7. Kind of a "pick yer poison" kind of deal.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:31 AM
Mar 2015

Google's TOS isn't any better - but this kind of privacy breach is alarming no matter who you're dealing with.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
19. I cured Google of sending me spam.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:23 AM
Mar 2015

I had to get a gmail account to log on to youtube. They started sending me about 8-10 spams a day. At first I just marked them as spam with their filter. That got rid of about half of them. Then I started forwarding ALL their spam to [email protected]. It ceased. Now I get maybe 1 spam email a month.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
20. I did not know about that abuse@ option...thanks.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:32 AM
Mar 2015

I have a gmail account, for unimportant stuff. Actually I get very little spam on it, and get zero spam on my ISP mail account.
It appears that my old fashioned ISP, which I often complain about, is also not doing a lot of tracking.
Woot!

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
3. Tor Browser? VPN?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 12:47 AM
Mar 2015

Surely there are ways customers can make it difficult on the "good folks" at ATT...

Jon82

(92 posts)
11. Thinking the same thing about VPN
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:55 AM
Mar 2015

"Data collected shows that all their traffic goes to one place. Boss, which ads do we recommend for that?"

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. So first the Telecoms break the law by violating people's privacy. Congress helps them out
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:03 AM
Mar 2015

of their predicament AFTER they are caught, by wring an amendment to the law they violated, covering the period of their criminal activity, that makes their crime not a crime anymore.

NOW that they are free to spy on the public apparently, they can PROFIT from SELLING you back your privacy??

Congress helps them steal your privacy, then they sell it back.

Is that what they mean by 'FREEDOM isn't FREE'?

I never took that literally!

What a country! Land of the FREE, if you can afford it!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Google, which suddenly became the mega giant TIA a few years ago
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:09 AM
Mar 2015

started doing what AT&T is declaring they are doing (which means they started a longer time ago than Google). BOTH companies get major support from the NSA/CIA security apparatus.

Lost privacy decades ago.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Meh. Google has been doing that for years.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:07 AM
Mar 2015

I knew I had zero privacy long long ago. Of course you can always serf incognito, but your ISP still knows.

 

Yorktown

(2,884 posts)
8. Like 'villager' said, it's not a big deal
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:36 AM
Mar 2015

I'd even say it's win-win for all

• for all your daily browser use, tailored ads make more sense than random ads

• if you want to browse privately, as villager said, Tor/VPN are free technical solutions

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
12. So they decided to admit they're still spying on us so they can charge us not to?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 02:01 AM
Mar 2015

(while still actually spying on us)

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
14. I have been thinking about switching to Credo.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 02:26 AM
Mar 2015

Does Credo do this or are they hooked into this? Thanks if you know. Appreciate help.

 

Romeo.lima333

(1,127 posts)
21. credo mobile doesnt track and they take part of your bill and donate it to democratic causes.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:37 AM
Mar 2015

they sometimes sponsor the norman goldman show

http://www.credomobile.com/

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
22. giggle!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:01 AM
Mar 2015

Oh horrors, social justice! Actually I am a progressive and am considering Credo for exactly these reasons. I do not know what you mean by 'doesn't track' but I suspect now that you know I am on a different page, you may want to not explain. I am considering Credo for both cell phone and wifi. I have ATT now and the prices keep going up and up. Seems to be true with most that I have checked. 'Tis the old fixed income problem. Anyway, thanks for responding.

C Moon

(12,225 posts)
16. I had AT&T 7 years ago; Then, while I was working online from home, the service died...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:10 AM
Mar 2015

My boss threatened my working from home situation if I didn't get it fixed by the next day (he was a control freak asshole—believe me).
I called AT&T and tried to get it repaired.

They transferred me to 5 different people, and I ended up with the first person I'd talked to initially. Will he go 'round in circles?

I told the gentleman to and cancel the service—for which he had to transfer me again (luckily there was only 1 or 2 months left in the contract); I then signed up with a cable company, and was live the next day. Much to the surprise of my boss.

A few years later, AT&T put in fiber optic cables in our neighborhood, and they physically came to my door three times to get me to come back. I told them they had horrible customer service and I would not consider it—plus there were a lot of drops with their service.

And now after seeing the above thread, boy am I glad they gave me horrible customer service!

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
17. And in the final step of fascism......
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:07 AM
Mar 2015

...they take away the ''opting out'' option and you just do as you're told. The only democracy remaining will be in the cemetery.

- Where equality finally reigns in death......



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