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damnedifIknow

(3,183 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:22 AM Mar 2015

Judging the Cops

On an autumn night last year a 16-year-old high school student, Thai Gurule, was crossing a street in Portland, Oregon, accompanied by his older brother and a few friends. No one was breaking the law, being disruptive, or acting suspiciously. Yet the black teenager would soon be stopped by police officers without probable cause, illegally detained, shoved off his feet onto the ground, punched multiple times in the torso, kneed in the stomach, grabbed by the hair, and Tased.

He would later be charged with assaulting a public safety officer, resisting arrest, and attempted strangulation, per the narrative of the cops who wrote the police report."

*But thanks in part to bystanders who captured video of this teen's encounter with police, Judge Diana Stuart acquitted him last week. After being illegally stopped, her ruling acknowledged, the youth did tense his arms, struggle to stay on his feet, and flail around with his limbs. But he did so to protect himself from "senseless and aggressive" violence that "a reasonable person would have felt was excessive force," she found, adding that police misrepresented parts of the encounter in their report, which she did not find credible after reviewing the video evidence."

*Portland police union president Daryl Turner on Monday decried a Multnomah County judge's findings last week that officers used excessive force in the arrest of a 16-year-old boy. Turner called the ruling "unfair'' and "discouraging,'' and questioned the judge's authority to second-guess the officers."

He doesn't just complain that the case was wrongly decided. As he sees it, judges never have any business evaluating police actions or assessing the credibility of their testimony. What does he think trials are for if not to understand what happened with the benefit of hindsight? Why does he imagine that police officers are cross-examined if there is no need to determine if they are credible? His are the words of a police representative whose civic knowledge has atrophied due to years of enjoying excessive deference. Basic safeguards strike him as "discouraging."

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2015/03/where-excessive-force-meets-resisting-arrest/388297/

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Judging the Cops (Original Post) damnedifIknow Mar 2015 OP
The cops have gone Faux pas Mar 2015 #1
Surprise, the cops lie. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #2
"questioned the judge's authority to second-guess the officers." damnedifIknow Mar 2015 #3
Well you have to understand. They have a tough job, or something. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #4
Kick!!! Heidi Mar 2015 #5
 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
2. Surprise, the cops lie.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:44 AM
Mar 2015

It's nice to see the Judge learn this in a case, now will she apply the lesson learned in the future?

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
4. Well you have to understand. They have a tough job, or something.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:12 AM
Mar 2015

Oh I would have commented on that, but for one little thing. I long ago figured out that there was no greater sense of entitlement than a cop. Everyone is supposed to love them, worship them, and instantly obey them. What was on the side of the Decepticon police car in Transformers? To punish and enslave? That's pretty much the attitude of your average cop don't you think?

Seriously it's nice when someone sees the routine lies for once, and is shocked by them.

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