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anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:23 AM Mar 2015

Atheist Making A Fortune From Selling Bibles

“What if you sold Harry Potter books or Lord of the Rings books, but you told people it was real? And you told people if they would just learn how to write spells themselves, they could heal their children? And if you sold that as a real thing? I would feel terrible about that. But that’s really the situation I am in selling the bible. I am selling this thing I truly believe is fiction.”

http://www.inquisitr.com/1921336/atheist-making-a-fortune-from-selling-bibles-says-the-money-is-too-good-to-be-true/
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Damn wish I had thought of that!

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Atheist Making A Fortune From Selling Bibles (Original Post) anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 OP
He is openly atheist and selling a Bible app that makes him a lot of money. merrily Mar 2015 #1
I would venture to guess that the more pious of the faithful anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #2
Then they are silly, IMO. It's one thing to ascribe a certain lifestyle to a preacher. merrily Mar 2015 #3
It is the same mindset that baking a cake for a same sex wedding is going to anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #6
I don't know that bakeries are making that claim. merrily Mar 2015 #7
IDK ask the owners who do think that way anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #8
No, I won't ask them about what you say their objection/thinking is. merrily Mar 2015 #9
Here's one that has been in the news lately anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #10
That does not say the baker believed he would be doomed to eternal damnation if he baked them a cake merrily Mar 2015 #12
I think you miss the point all together. Good Day anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #15
"a bookstore that doesn't believe in witchcraft selling Harry Potter books" Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #13
Valid, but scratch Harry Potter and substitute books on wicca sold by people who do not follow that merrily Mar 2015 #14
fair enough. Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #16
Why fraud? He's selling a system for reading and listening to a book muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #18
Are you sure his advertising is not making any such claims? Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #19
Very interesting article. greatlaurel Mar 2015 #4
An atheist has got to do what an atheist gotta do. CK_John Mar 2015 #5
PT Barnum Thor_MN Mar 2015 #11
Darwin bless him! hatrack Mar 2015 #17
This is how it's done . . . . no_hypocrisy Mar 2015 #20
"The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a blood stained history, a wealth of obscenity.. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #21
I would've kept that hidden a bit longer. Islandurp Mar 2015 #22

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. He is openly atheist and selling a Bible app that makes him a lot of money.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:39 AM
Mar 2015

I don't see this as the same kind of story as an evangelist exploiting believers while living a life that is inconsistent with what he or she directs others to do, ostensibly under an anointing from God.

It's more like a bookstore that doesn't believe in witchcraft selling Harry Potter books because they are big moneymakers for the bookstore.

Is anyone under the illusion that everyone who has sold a cross or a Star of David in Israel was/is a devout Christian or a devout Jew? Ditto for everyone who has sold Bibles or Korans?

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
2. I would venture to guess that the more pious of the faithful
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:45 AM
Mar 2015

are under the illusion that those flogging religious products are believers just like them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. Then they are silly, IMO. It's one thing to ascribe a certain lifestyle to a preacher.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:50 AM
Mar 2015

It's another to ascribe it to a peddler of Vatican or "holy land" souvenirs. But, this guy is openly atheist. No sense at all ascribing anything but an atheism to him.

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
6. It is the same mindset that baking a cake for a same sex wedding is going to
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:54 AM
Mar 2015

condemn them to eternal damnation.

Yes very silly indeed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
7. I don't know that bakeries are making that claim.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

However, I have no desire to even appear to defend those bakeries, so I'll stop that train of thought right there.

Those bakeries are hypocrites. Do they clear their customers for other things they consider sins? Stealing? Bearing false witness against a neighbor? Coveting a neighbor's spouse? And so on?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
9. No, I won't ask them about what you say their objection/thinking is.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:12 AM
Mar 2015

In fact, I won't ask those turds about anything.

If I were going to ask anyone about your statement, I'd ask you, but I won't do that, either. I will simply say again that I have never seen that specific claim made by a bakery that has refused to bake a cake for a GLBT wedding. IOW, you have stated their alleged objection in a way that I have not seen any of them state it.

And, as my prior post said, I would like to leave it at that, esp. since this thread is not even about that.

 

anotojefiremnesuka

(198 posts)
10. Here's one that has been in the news lately
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:23 AM
Mar 2015
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2013/1207/Colo.-judge-orders-Christian-baker-to-bake-gay-wedding-cake.-Will-he-say-no-video

If you are interested to understand the mindset, there are plenty of other examples in the news too

Personally I do know now any butcher, bakers, and candle stick makers who are denying service to LGBT people but they are out there if all the news reports and law suites are true.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
12. That does not say the baker believed he would be doomed to eternal damnation if he baked them a cake
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:28 AM
Mar 2015

I am familiar with the refusals and the reasons they give. So far, I have not heard or read of one that says they believe they will go to hell or be damned for eternity if they bake the cake. Nor did the baker at your source say that.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
13. "a bookstore that doesn't believe in witchcraft selling Harry Potter books"
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:29 AM
Mar 2015

uh no. Essentially nobody believes that the Harry Potter books describe real events, it is almost universally understood that they are works of fiction. So this is not at all analogous to the bible, which book is thought by millions to not be a work of fiction. While you and I and the subject of the op might agree that the bible is of course a work of fiction, there is something a bit off with an atheist peddling this crap to the believers, it borders on fraud and seems more analogous to a snake-oil salesman peddling bogus remedies knowing full well that they are nonsense.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Valid, but scratch Harry Potter and substitute books on wicca sold by people who do not follow that
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:32 AM
Mar 2015

religion or believe in any of its tenets. (meaning no disrespect to that religion).

Bookstores sell all kinds of books covering things some people believe in, but the bookseller might not believe it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,475 posts)
18. Why fraud? He's selling a system for reading and listening to a book
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:25 PM
Mar 2015

He's not saying "this will make you a better person" or "this will save your soul". He's not saying "this is a better guide to life than the works of Bertrand Russell". He saying "here's a convenient way to get the information from the bible".

Is a publisher that publishes sacred texts from more than one religion bordering on committing fraud, in your eyes?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
19. Are you sure his advertising is not making any such claims?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 02:06 PM
Mar 2015

AFAIC anyone peddling religion is in the region of fraud.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
21. "The bible is a book with some beautiful poetry, a blood stained history, a wealth of obscenity..
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

and upwards of 10,000 lies." Mark Twain

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