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Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:10 AM Mar 2015

The 7 GOP Senators who chose not to participate in unprecedented subversion of foreign negotiations,



...and violation of the Logan Act, by 47 of their colleagues (87% of the GOP Senate caucus):


Lamar Alexander
Dan Coats, Senate Intelligence Committee
Thad Cochran
Susan Collins
Bob Corker, Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Jeff Flake
Lisa Murkowski



In an age when their party's habitual hypocrisy, with regard to the Constitution and the rule of law, knows no limits, at least some of the 7 must wonder what happened to the party they joined long ago.

Coats, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, presents an interesting study on this issue, in that in November he wrote a letter to (then) Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair Robert Menendez and Ranking Member Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) urging them to use existing authority to request a report from the Secretary of State on the verifiability of the administration’s recent nuclear agreement with Iran, iindicating that he favored Congressional oversight under existing law.

It would appear that both Coats and Corker, the current GOP Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, (and probably the other 5 non-signers), while favoring traditional legal Congressional involvement, made a decision not to participate with 87% of their GOP caucus in their deliberate and unprecedented attempt to subvert sensitive vital negotiations, and in clearly violating the Logan Act, and in misstating the legal realities in their subversive letter.

There hasn't been much room in the Republican caucus for traditional Republicans, or anyone with an ounce of judgement or integrity for years, and its clearly getting smaller.















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The 7 GOP Senators who chose not to participate in unprecedented subversion of foreign negotiations, (Original Post) Faryn Balyncd Mar 2015 OP
I will try to remember the names of these seven Tom Rinaldo Mar 2015 #1
Just an FYI. Menendez represents New Jersey not Florida. Pacifist Patriot Mar 2015 #2
and Menendez is ranking member and Corker chair. Mass Mar 2015 #5
Thanks. That was a paste from the linked article which incorrectly identified Menendez state Faryn Balyncd Mar 2015 #9
Flake seems to be one of the last decent guys the GOP has when it comes to foreign policy. Mass Mar 2015 #3
2016 Republican primaries are set Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #4
amazing. both of Tennessee's senators! Duppers Mar 2015 #6
Truly! Lars39 Mar 2015 #7
I know, right? d_r Mar 2015 #13
Call me a cynic......but...... ewagner Mar 2015 #8
It may have more to do with... PhilosopherKing Mar 2015 #20
When you have already sold out all Americans in favor of Wall Street, MIC, oil companies, etc., Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #10
Jeff Flake has really surprised me since he became a Senator BumRushDaShow Mar 2015 #11
Sen Flake was just on NPR's All Things Considered - measured words as he walks through the minefield Brother Buzz Mar 2015 #21
Thank you for that! BumRushDaShow Mar 2015 #24
are women more moral than men? mopinko Mar 2015 #12
Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) signed the letter magical thyme Mar 2015 #14
No one is more surprised than me..... DeSwiss Mar 2015 #15
The Sane Seven. KamaAina Mar 2015 #16
DUzy for hifiguy Mar 2015 #18
Not original, I'm afraid KamaAina Mar 2015 #22
These seven republican senators are heroes, as far as I'm concerned. dissentient Mar 2015 #17
Not heroic, just not batshit crazy on one solitary issue. Barack_America Mar 2015 #19
Thread-winner!1 UTUSN Mar 2015 #23

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
1. I will try to remember the names of these seven
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:31 AM
Mar 2015

and will try to afford them a degree of respect moving forward from here, though undoubtedly I will continue to strongly disagree with them on most things in the future. Given the mind set of today's Republican Party, not to mention the money and influence of AIPAC, it took some spine and principles for them to hold out against signing a letter that 47 of their peers supported.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
2. Just an FYI. Menendez represents New Jersey not Florida.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

Lucky us. We've got Rubio.



Wonder why Coats' website has it wrong.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
3. Flake seems to be one of the last decent guys the GOP has when it comes to foreign policy.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:03 AM
Mar 2015

This is not an endorsement of his policies, but at least he does not take that as a football, same goes for Murkowski and Corker.

Coats, Cochran, and Alexander are just old guys who still live in the old times. When they are gone (probably in 6 years for Coats and Cochran) they will be replaced by the typical 21th century republicans. I am still reserved concerning Collins, but at least she was smart enough not to sign the letter.

Corker said clearly the letter was idiotic and counterproductive.

Sadly, the current brand of Republicans makes W look moderate on foreign policy. Hard to believe. And all that to please their base.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
13. I know, right?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:16 PM
Mar 2015

I think it is because they are both such snake oilers that they probably don't sign their name on anything.

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
8. Call me a cynic......but......
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:32 AM
Mar 2015

Coming so closely on the heels of Bibi's speech to congress, I smell AIPAC all over the letter....and the $$$$ that go with it.

PhilosopherKing

(317 posts)
20. It may have more to do with...
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:09 PM
Mar 2015

The fact that Tom Cotton spoke to the defense industry the day after he sent the letter. It speaks volumes.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
10. When you have already sold out all Americans in favor of Wall Street, MIC, oil companies, etc.,
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:46 AM
Mar 2015

there is not any shame in your game to pull a treasonous stunt like this! They all know they are above the law now so they are not worried!

BumRushDaShow

(128,914 posts)
11. Jeff Flake has really surprised me since he became a Senator
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:48 AM
Mar 2015

I followed him closely when he was in the House and his claim to fame was pointing out "pork barrel" items added to the budget. He appeared in every budget debate, without fail, even pointing out the pork from his own party while they yelled and pointed at the Democrats. Although he was GOP, I admired his persistence, consistency, and avoidance of rank hypocrisy (at least on that subject). Considering that he was elected from a teabagger state with a loon for a governor and McLame as a sidekick, he has managed to dampen the crazy... At least so far.

mopinko

(70,092 posts)
12. are women more moral than men?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:55 AM
Mar 2015

notice that it is the women in the party on the right side of things AGAIN.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
14. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) signed the letter
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:19 PM
Mar 2015

no the crazy isn't limited to men.

On edit, also Joni Ernst, Deb Fischer and Shelley Moore Capito.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
15. No one is more surprised than me.....
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:30 PM
Mar 2015

...that Alexander and Corker didn't sign the letter.

- Here ya go:

K&R

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
19. Not heroic, just not batshit crazy on one solitary issue.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 08:58 PM
Mar 2015

But then to think that only seven(!) in that entire caucus decided to distance themselves from such clear insanity. Wow.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
23. Thread-winner!1
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:32 PM
Mar 2015

[font size=5] [FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow"]Not heroic, just not batshit crazy on one solitary issue. [/FONT] [/font]

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