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Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 12:47 PM Dec 2011

Heroic Student, stops teacher on teacher attack. (saves life)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Heroic-football-player-stops-potentially-lethal-?urn=highschool-wp10312
Yahoo. News.
12/22/11

Heroic football player stops potentially lethal teacher attack

By Cameron Smith


By all accounts, the attack looked like it would be lethal.

In the moments after the school bell rang, a 40-year-old teacher brutally attacked a fellow teacher. With screwdriver blows from English teacher Ronette Ricketts raining on the victim, fellow English teacher Cynthia Glozier, a varsity football player thought quick, relied on his athletic instincts and stopped the attack in its tracks

According to New York TV network WPIX and the Poughkeepsie Journal, among other sources, Poughkeepsie (N.Y.) High senior linebacker Justin Richardson is now being hailed as a hero and a likely lifesaver as a result.

"I saw Ms. Ricketts just hammering her in the side of head," Richardson told PIX 11 TV. "I saw a lot of blood. It was shocking. I just jammed her really hard to get the screwdriver [to] fly out of her hand. If I didn't step in she would have killed her."

Luckily for all involved, Richardson did step in to stop a shocking attack before it became a deadly one. As it is, Ricketts is still facing charges of first-degree attempted assault, second-degree assault and criminal possession of a weapon, and is likely to lose a job in which she was previously highly respected.
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Two women techers fighting in the halls of high school before Christmas. What is the world coming to?
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Heroic Student, stops teacher on teacher attack. (saves life) (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2011 OP
Thank God the student stepped in. blue neen Dec 2011 #1
And some say athletes are douchebags. trumad Dec 2011 #2
Al Bundy said it best: "Don't mess with a guy who played high-school football" Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2011 #3
Thank God this student had to courage to do the right thing Tippy Dec 2011 #4
It isn't easy to get in between two women fighting. Stuart G Dec 2011 #5
Does that mean it is easier to seperate two fighting men. pennylane100 Dec 2011 #10
I did not mean to offend you.., or anyone. Stuart G Dec 2011 #11
No apology necessary, pennylane100 Dec 2011 #20
What is this world coming to? Aerows Dec 2011 #6
As a teacher I take offense to your remark. sorrybushisfromtexas Dec 2011 #8
I agree with you completely frazzled Dec 2011 #12
It was a hallway fight, not in the classroom Stuart G Dec 2011 #14
There are going to be crazy people Aerows Dec 2011 #15
I don't understand ... frazzled Dec 2011 #16
The person above you took offense to my post Aerows Dec 2011 #17
Okay. frazzled Dec 2011 #18
I wasn't generalizing that all teachers are psychotic. Aerows Dec 2011 #13
+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2011 #19
Gives a new meaning to NOLALady Dec 2011 #7
wow. student certainly is a hero Liberal_in_LA Dec 2011 #9

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
5. It isn't easy to get in between two women fighting.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 01:05 PM
Dec 2011

I did, and it was very scary the time they did. I was teaching at this school, and two 15 year olds were at it with each other.
Vicious and awful. We separated them, (myslef and another teacher) and took them away. You don't forget that stuff.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
10. Does that mean it is easier to seperate two fighting men.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:19 PM
Dec 2011

What is it about women fighting that makes it so much more newsworthy.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
11. I did not mean to offend you.., or anyone.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:29 PM
Dec 2011

.Sorry...Fighting among people at schools is common. Both men and women are hard to separate.

Those kinds of fights among teachers, is most unusual. (at least within the school itself)

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
20. No apology necessary,
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 07:49 PM
Dec 2011

I think I was being way too sensitive but thank you for being so nice about it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
6. What is this world coming to?
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 01:19 PM
Dec 2011

First we have the teacher who took pictures of the student who hung himself instead of helping him, and now we have a teacher attacking another teacher with a screwdriver.

Holy crap.

8. As a teacher I take offense to your remark.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 01:49 PM
Dec 2011

There are idiots in every profession. If you don't believe that you have never ever seen or heard from our current Republican House of Representatives. You know I am right.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. I agree with you completely
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:43 PM
Dec 2011

And it hurts to have such one-off stories about a member of your profession (or faith, or city, etc.) falsely become some sort of symbol for an otherwise noble enterprise.

But it does makes me think that incidents like this, with a bad apple, could possibly be prevented if there were better methods for culling out these few temperamentally unqualified teachers. When I think back on the teachers my kids had in school, and that must have been at least around 60 of them, almost all were excellent and well-suited to their profession. There were perhaps two out of that bunch (an extremely small percentage), however, who were kind of disasters. One in particular I'm thinking of (a 7th-grade science teacher) had been complained about seriously for years and years, both in terms of his academic and personal skills: yet there he remained. I think it's why many teachers themselves are slowly embracing the notion of some sort of sensible review process: they want to defend their position as the professionals they are. The problem, of course, is what kind of review will work.

Maybe this teacher just snapped suddenly, but to do it in front of kids in the classroom: well, I'm sure she'll be gone. But it should never have gotten to that situation in the first place. It would be interesting to know whether there were warning signs of instability.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
14. It was a hallway fight, not in the classroom
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:59 PM
Dec 2011

I found this quote in a local newspaper

Here is a much more complete story on this:

The attacker it seems,,,,and I don't know more than that, other than reading it here, it seems thought she might be terminated ....
.....If the attacker thought that she was being terminated around Christmas by
her Department Chair,
and that is also mentioned ( at least in passing) it could cause someone to snap. That is no reason to attack anyone,but some might snap with that kind of news..if that is true..

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20111215/NEWS05/111215007/Poughkeepsie-High-School-stabbing
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The stabbing, he said, took place in a hallway of the school at approximately 10:03 a.m. Almost immediately, teachers, students and staff began to intervene. English teacher Ronette Ricketts managed to stab Glozier 16 times in total, he said.


Police and medics were called once Ricketts was “removed” from Glozier, he said, and the school was locked down until it was deemed secure an hour and 15 minutes later.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. There are going to be crazy people
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:59 PM
Dec 2011

I'm certainly not maligning the profession of teaching. You are going to have a certain number of whackos no matter what profession you are in.

As sorrybushisfromtexas pointed out, look at politics.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
16. I don't understand ...
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:36 PM
Dec 2011

what your response has to do with my post. But whatever. I think everyone has said they agree that there are the occasional whackos.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. The person above you took offense to my post
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 06:48 PM
Dec 2011

I was under the impression that you were agreeing with them being offended. If that is not the case, then my apologies for jumping the gun.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. Okay.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 07:11 PM
Dec 2011

Let's all keep it cool. I'm sure everyone is shocked by this bizarre incident. Feel sorry for the victim.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. I wasn't generalizing that all teachers are psychotic.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 04:57 PM
Dec 2011

My sister is a teacher, and she certainly isn't. I was just pointing out that in the last few days we've had two horrible stories. It's just terrible that there are crazy people in this world. I certainly don't blame to poor English teacher from this story that got stabbed with a screwdriver - I blame the crazy woman that went after her.

As for the Republicans in the House of Representatives... aye-yie-yie. Even worse, just look at their contenders for President. There isn't a one of them, except for maybe Hunstman, that isn't certifiable.

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