Judges orders winnings returned to Golden Nugget casino in unshuffled cards case

[Panich52]

Judges orders winnings returned to Golden Nugget casino in unshuffled cards case

Players who played in a mini-baccarat game with an unshuffled deck must return all chips and winnings to Golden Nugget, a state Superior Court judge said Thursday.

The casino had bought the cards from a manufacturer that were supposed to be pre-shuffled but weren't. That allowed 14 gamblers to win $1.5 million in an April 2012 game when they recognized the emerging pattern of cards. In the court decision, obtained by the Press from an attorney for Golden Nugget, Judge Donna M. Taylor said the game is not authorized under the New Jersey Casino Control Act.

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http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/judges-orders-winnings-returned-to-golden-nugget-casino-in-unshuffled/article_7725539a-b30e-11e4-887d-e7744c4dc24d.html#.VOLBRvcBvDQ.twitter via @ACPressTopNews

[MohRokTah]

1. Well, I'll never play anything at any Golden Nugget Casino anywere.

It's up to the Casino to insure the cards were shuffled. Their sloppiness should not be a problem for the gamers, so fuck 'em.

[rocktivity]

2. Nor I -- it's the card shuffling company who owes them restitution

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because THEY'RE the guilty party. Can't they tell this is bad public relations?


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[MohRokTah]

3. Golden Nugget is dumped into the pit of "never game here" along with anything that has the name...

Trump.

[edgineered]

4. What? For some this event would be considered a miracle!

Jalapeno! The cards are hotter than hell!

[Journeyman]

5. Pre-shuffled cards? How absurd. But who's the say they *weren't* shuffled? . . .

And the pattern came up as if it were an unshuffled deck?

No one checked. In a legitimate game, no one would be allowed to see the order of cards. The legitimacy of the shuffle would have been witnessed by everyone at the table. If the casino is so heavily invested in laziness as to refuse to shuffle their own cards, they should have to deal with the consequences, come what may.

[jmowreader]

7. Go to the links...they were unshuffled

The card-printing company video records all its processes for security. They weren't shuffled before they were packed.

[rocktivity]

9. Then it WAS their screwup

The card company owes the casino, not the players. And if the players were allegedly able to "figure out" that the cards hadn't been shuffled, why couldn't the dealer?


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[jmowreader]

12. Good questions all

Better question: don't casinos have shuffling machines?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Don't know but on the slot machine it clearly says if the machine malfunctions ...

Don't know but on the slot machine it clearly says if the machine malfunctions they don't have to pay

[world wide wally]

8. What if they spent it already?

[closeupready]

10. I'm not a lawyer, but personally, I doubt this ruling would survive an appeal.

If the game offered was unauthorized, then Golden Nugget is liable, as well as the New Jersey Casino and Gaming Commission.

Something seems rotten in Denmark here...

[Rhinodawg]

11. April 2012 ????

sorry... all gone.

[rocktivity]

13. From a story filed Janurary 7

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...Golden Nugget sued the players in July 2012 to recover $558,900 in chips cashed out by nine of the players and for a formal declaration absolving the casino of any responsibility to redeem the remaining $977,800 in chips...(T)he players “became unwitting participants in an unauthorized and illegal game of chance” involving cards that were supposed to be pre-shuffled but weren’t...

At some point the players realized that cards were being dealt in predictable patterns and upped their bets, said...an attorney for the casino...The casino reached a confidential settlement with...the company that provided the cards, he said.

HOLD EVERTHING -- are they double billing here?

I've contended that it's the card shuffling company that owes the casino reimbursement. The casino HAS received "secret" redress from them? Then for all we know, the casino has ALREADY been reimbursed for their payout in full! Well, if the settlement didn't involve that, it had better have involved FIRING them!

Oh, and about those unredeemed chips:

Other claims, such as an allegation that the casino discriminated against...players, all of whom are of Asian descent, when it refused to cash their chips...

Way to attract sorely-needed customers, Golden Nugget! (link)


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