Hillary Clinton May Delay Campaign Announcement

[mylye2222]

From Politico.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/exclusive-hillary-clinton-may-delay-campaign-114714.html

According to columnist she might delay lauch becaise she wants to take time to improve her message.
And also that she doesnt feel any presssure cause she still have not any serious challenger.

Well. IMHO, given her good name status , and no another freshman challenger like Obama last stime....the amount of $$$$ Ready fo Hillary had amassed for peospecting "primary" could ve given to those who more need it..... she doesnt even have to campaign isnt it?????

What a sad whole joke are we expecting in the upcoming " democratic primary process " coming.

Between Hillary and the Bush Family coming back.....

Welcome to the United State of America Kingdom.

[djean111]

1. She has no fucking message. This is a farce. nt

[mylye2222]

2. Oh she does have one.

Its hold in three words.

Me. Myself. I. !

[BlueCaliDem]

17. She has an incredible message. But you're not interested in learning about it

because it appears you've already made up your mind to hate her with everything inside you.

[djean111]

31. I hate the TPP. That is NOT a single issue, it will have a bad effect on lots of things.

I was a Hillary supporter last time. I cannot support her now.

"hate her with everything inside you" - the over the top stuff is juvenile. "heads exploding", "hair on fire" - sounds like a bunch of wishful thinking to me.

[BlueCaliDem]

59. djean...I've read your other posts on Hillary. I stand by my comment based on them. No "heads

exploding", no "hair on fire" or even remotely "wishful thinking". Just going by your previous posts. It is what it is.

As an aside, I wasn't an HRC supporter then and I'm not really one now, but I don't like stuff being written about her that have no basis in fact. I don't know much about the TPP negotiations because it's still at that stage: negotiations. Nothing is written in stone. But I do trust this president who has done nothing to disadvantage me or mine, and we're only middle class. I don't see how he could do a 180 and go from helping to harming. I just don't. So regarding TPP, I'll reserve judgment until the facts are presented. Maybe you should, too.

[hrmjustin]

7. I think not. That is a gop meme.

[hrmjustin]

11. My point was about your Bill Clinton remark.

[hrmjustin]

24. And you want to push it. Interesting.

Btw there are no Allegations against Clinton from that Epstein thing. Plezse stop pushing rw crap here!

[rbrnmw]

8. You remind me of someone else

Who keeps posting BS about Bill Clinton that are lies and fantasies

[rbrnmw]

28. yes I'm sure it does

you probably signed up to tell us how much it concerns you right? Have a lovely day welcome to DU

[BeyondGeography]

34. Bye

[leftynyc]

10. Newbie who repeats lies

How adorable.

[leftynyc]

29. You ain't fooling anyone

but it will be fun watching you get batted around for a while.

[SidDithers]

18. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[LanternWaste]

25. Rather easy for any half-wit to confuse 'allegation' and 'revelation'.

Rather easy for any half-wit to confuse 'allegation' and 'revelation'. I used to do it myself too.

[hrmjustin]

4. Announcing late is not a big deal.

If other candidates announce she might change her schedule.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. If you want to be Machiavellian about it it makes perfect sense

She's freezing the race with her well ahead of her Republican and Democratic challengers.

[hrmjustin]

13. Well the point is to win.

[HappyMe]

19. That was the point in November also.

Where the hell were all the other Democrats then?

[hrmjustin]

22. If you mean last November tbe party as a whole should be embarrassed for running against

the president.

[HappyMe]

26. Not everyone ran against the President.

I'm talking about pathetic turnout. Where was all of this rah rah party stuff then?

[hrmjustin]

32. Don't know. The party failed us.

[HappyMe]

38. Looks like it's the Democratic voters that failed in November.

Miserably.

I do think that the party is failing in a bunch of ways.

[hrmjustin]

39. I would agree that the base also failed.

Hopefully this serves a lesson about what happens when people don't vote.

[HappyMe]

41. I would have thought that

since this isn't rocket science, people would know that.

[hrmjustin]

43. I agree but apparently it wasn't.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. A lot of people here might not like her campaign...

A lot of people here might not like her campaign but the goal is to keep the White House in Democratic hands.

Of course there is a danger in being too cautious but it is outweighed by being reckless...

[hrmjustin]

36. July is too long a wait. i say Easter time is a better time to announce.

[FSogol]

44. +1. If everyone is waiting until she announces, she shortens the campaign by waiting.

More time for behind the scene organization for her and any other Democratic hopefuls.

And even better: more time to let the 1,000 GOP candidates tear bloody chunks out of each other and shoot themselves in their feet.

Better stock up on

[KingCharlemagne]

54. Excellent observation: HRC is either taking a page out of Thomas Dewey's 1948 playbook (bad) or

out of Tricky Dick's 1968 playbook (good, although its original practitioner was a shitbird of the first order).

I had not stopped to consider the latter possibility before reading your post. I so want to see Huckabee and Paul and Cruz have at it, with side dishes of Palin and Romney thrown in for spice. Then add a little Jeb and, voila!, a perfect Klown Kar Katastrophe in the making

[libodem]

6. So we don't weary of her too soon?

Goddess help me love her. If she is going to be our woman I need to start my attitude adjustment right now. I'll jump in and work for her and of course I'll vote for her but....

[BlueCaliDem]

14. I had rec'd your post, but then I had to unrec it. I'm sorry, but blaming Hillary Clinton for

having no viable challenger (so far - but time will tell) is somehow her fault? Seriously??

What she's doing is strengthening her position against pro-Republican M$M, the RNC, the GOP, and the Koch Bros dollars. You do know that the Koch Bros have pledged to spend $889 million dollars above and beyond what the GOP and other dark money groups are going to spend in 2016 in order to buy the White House and more power in Congress, don't you?

We have NO idea if SoS Clinton will get a Democratic challenger. It's still early. But what we do know is that the moment she announces, pro-Republican M$M will begin to crucify her and take any spotlight highlighting anything negative about the Republican candidates and blind the nation as they focus on her - just as they'd done in 2008 when they gave McCain a HUGE pass for nine-plus months while constantly attacking Hillary and Obama. Remember? Because I do.

[mylye2222]

27. Well it is all Team Clinton fault.

Because its well known they had sincr years manoeuvred to make everyone think she is the only one.

And that they had repeatedly done dirty tricks in order to put and get her stay always in first rank in Dem structures and american politics.

Remember 2006. Remember 2008....and even remember 2004 National Convention and shortly after Bill's book release and him talking nicely about the BFEE.

[wyldwolf]

33. Can you give examples of these "manoeuvres" and "dirty tricks?"

[mylye2222]

37. Yep.

2008
.... Launching the "Obama is a Muslim " crap and letting Faux Noise use it. Among with supporting from behind the 'birth certificate" absolute non story.

2006....

Aligning with the Repugs re. Kerry's " botched joke" and calling it omappropriate. In order to get a possible challenger away from Hillary s way.


Before. Protecting the Reagan-Bush crooks while Bill Clinton served as President.

[wyldwolf]

46. Nope

2008
.... Launching the "Obama is a Muslim " crap and letting Faux Noise use it. Among with supporting from behind the 'birth certificate" absolute non story.

Hillary didn't 'launch' that.

2006....

Aligning with the Repugs re. Kerry's " botched joke" and calling it omappropriate. In order to get a possible challenger away from Hillary s way.

Hillary was one of many Democrats who found the Kerry remark classless.

Before. Protecting the Reagan-Bush crooks while Bill Clinton served as President.

How did Hillary do that? Is it your believe Michelle Obama has done the same thing while Barack Obama serves as President?

[mylye2222]

50. I spoke above ....

Of TEAM CLINTON as a whole. Not especially Hillary.

And please. Dont pretend you "know nothing " regarding thr fact that this couple is and has always and will be a team having tht common goal to keep their family staying in height of piwers and popularity as long as possible. It was a deal thzt wasset long ago. In Yale's library. Everyone knows it and Mr And Mrs Clinton never denied it btw.

[wyldwolf]

51. But not very factually....

In Yale's library.

You can't defend your allegations.

[BlueCaliDem]

60. Of course it is.

Because its well known they had sincr years manoeuvred to make everyone think she is the only one.

Yes. It's a conspiracy. And, of course, hard-nosed Democratic leaders in high places remain mum about it because...?

Contrary to Republicans' misinformation messaging, the Clintons aren't omnipotent. There are still plenty of powerful Dems - and, more importantly, powerful Republicans - who might not want to bow their heads and worship at the Clinton altar. They just might get it in their heads to "leak" information to a U.S. press Corp that are happy as pigs in slop for any excuse to demonize the Clintons any which way they can.

So, I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that conspiracy.

[mylye2222]

64. Less a "conspiracy" than simply political limiteless arrivism.

And yes. Both Clintons are arrivists. And people love arrivists.

[wyldwolf]

21. Great plan! She can announce an exploratory committee in April... raise money...

... let the GOP candidates slime each other for a little while before her formal announcement. If I were her, I'd audition some veep candidates, have them enter the presidential race and do live debate prep on a nationally televised stage. I'd send a few paid operatives to DU to laugh at all the wailing and gnashing of teeth while planning the play room for my little grand kid in the west wing. Gonna be quite the election season!

[PAProgressive28]

23. She knows she has things to work out

Even the GOP is hitting her with populism, as much bullshit as it may be coming from a guy like Romney. The less she talks the better in her eyes.

I will not be supporting her in the primary but those of you who are should be upset by this. Once again it looks like her campaign is not going to be well-run. Someone is going to catch her again...

[Autumn]

35. Which message is that?

[HappyMe]

40. There will be another announcement to say when the next

announcement will be.

Two damn years of ready for Hillary squeeing, and yet, still has no message. She is starting to look like that stereotype of women - can't make up their minds/keep changing their minds. But of course, this is all a masterful, brilliant plan.

[mylye2222]

42. she will

Make an announcement yo announce she will made a provisional announcement before announcing she will run!

Wihile in Team Hillary s offices there are folders within all setted up in advance and her Acceptance speech's already written.

[HappyMe]

48. Not much need to pay much attention to this then.

Let the adoring fans do the work this go-round.

[Autumn]

52. I wish she wouldn't bother.

I'm so sick of these people playing their silly games.

[HappyMe]

57. That's what it has come down to.

Playing games. Expensive games, often at our expense.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

45. She's having trouble unhitching the baggage car from the Unstoppable Train.

[libdem4life]

47. Leaving out the emotion, it's a smart move. The Rs know there is a billion dollar kitty awaiting

aka Kochs. They must bow before the kings first.

The Ds don't have that slush fund at the ready, at least publicly. With Obama over 50%, he now has political capital, but not for a lot of candidates. So the waiting freezes the field and likely plays into his support. And anyone thinking/wishing/hoping to get rid of the filthy lucre of corporate money...needs to count the zeros in billion.

I'm ashamed of what our political system has become.

[HappyMe]

49. I am pretty disgusted with the political system myself.

Money takes all. It has nothing to do with us anymore.

[dragonlady]

56. Best post in this thread n/t

[libdem4life]

58. If you ever remember the time when you first knew something wasn't working...marriage, job, etc...

and try to put the thought out of your mind, try harder, go into denial, whatever...once you "know", it's just a matter of time before the truth comes out...It ain't working.

That's been my experience with the system and I'm maybe at the grief stage. Some stick with it, some leave, some just become numb.

I believe that is why so many of American voters are trying to be Independents separating themselves from both parties...fortunately more Rs than Ds right now. And some, even on this board, will just leave (stay home and not vote). Right now I think "sticking with it" is seeing it for what it's worth...not much...and doing the best we can.

[HappyMe]

61. You hit the nail on the head.

I careen from anger to numbness/don't care any more.

As crazy and ridiculous as the Tea Party people are - I can completely understand why they gave up on the official party. People that get sick of not being heard take matters into their own hands. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if some Democrats broke rank and organized. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be loonies like the TP, and it may take a bit.....something's gotta give. As long as the big money rolls on, nothing will change and it may get worse. I don't like feeling like I'm being steamrolled. That feeling doesn't translate to enthusiasm or guarantee my vote. I do not think I'm alone in this, and not just on DU.

[LittleBlue]

53. "improve her message" = how do I package this corporate horsesh*t

and sell it to the gullible?

Perhaps Bill's relationship to Epstein is worse than they thought, and they need more time to investigate the fallout.

[mylye2222]

55. K&R. for u

Dont forget the Martin Scorcese documentary project blocked!

[RiverLover]

62. The anticipated timeline for the TPP approval is congress passing it in March, and signed by all

countries in May(acc to Vietnamese media), and since she helped draft the US employment crushing corporate takeover misnamed "trade deal", that is going to be a tricky dance for her. I don't know how she'll time it right unless she waits until next year to announce.

[HappyMe]

63. If she doesn't say anything until July,

then she will assume she doesn't have to answer for that, and we will have forgotten all about it.

[Maedhros]

65. Can she delay her announcement until after 2016? [n/t]

[frylock]

66. the suspense is killing me!

[Buns_of_Fire]

67. She has no serious declared competition yet, so I can understand the delay.

Declare too soon, and she becomes the primary target -- from both parties.

Declare too late, and the coy act (you mean she hasn't defined her "message" by now?) could just as easily work against her.

I'm sure the Clinton camp is burning the midnight oil juggling the scheduling right about now -- and keeping a REAL close eye on who's in, who's out, and who's a question mark.

[AtomicKitten]

68. Improving her message = weaving a pile of hooey.