HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Scary Obituary

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:09 PM

Scary Obituary

Got this Republican propaganda chain email today. I am going to revise it and "reply-all" to the 40 or so Republicans on the chain email.

Any ideas what to include?

I would replace the 2nd paragraph with "the most wealthy buy the government to legislate laws most benefitting them concentrationg the wealth even more, while they starve the government to neglect the population and environmental infrastructure which eventually impoverishes the country and erodes democracy into a dictatorship by the wealthy. "



Scary Obituary

In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh ,
had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government.

A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can
vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the
most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has
been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:
Born 1776, Died 2012 It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.
Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.
If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at
stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom..
This is truly scary!
Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic .
Someone should point this out to Obama.
Of course we know he and too many others pay little attention to The Constitution.
There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 6, 2012.
If you are as concerned as I am please pass this along.

13 replies, 9358 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 13 replies Author Time Post
Reply Scary Obituary (Original post)
ErikJ Apr 2012 OP
lunasun Apr 2012 #1
ErikJ Apr 2012 #5
47of74 Sep 2013 #13
WillowTree Apr 2012 #2
ErikJ Apr 2012 #6
Brickbat Apr 2012 #3
Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2012 #4
BlueState Apr 2012 #7
Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #11
madinmaryland Apr 2012 #8
Jumping John Apr 2012 #9
Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #10
chrisa Apr 2012 #12

Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:18 PM

1. Any ideas what to include?

perhaps....
Blow it out your ass and don't email me this crap anymore dipshit???

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lunasun (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:23 PM

5. I actually want it to keep an eye on their propaganda

And it gives me an opportunity to educate the poor lost souls.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lunasun (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 13, 2013, 10:48 PM

13. Filing that response away for future use

If relatives start emailing me crap like this I now know how to respond.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:20 PM

2. That's one impressive run-on sentence you've got goin' there!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to WillowTree (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:26 PM

6. Yeah, it needs some polishing.

Just off the top of my head.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:20 PM

3. Nice to see things get updated once in awhile.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 09:21 PM

4. Or there's always the fact that Tyler never said this...

...and it was pulled together by two different sources that referenced what they referred to as Tyler quotes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Tyler#Misquotation_-_Tytler_Cycle

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:03 PM

7. How many states are there?

According to this work of fiction:

Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29

Did 2 of the 50 states abstain from voting?

As someone above has pointed out this is a copy of a bs email that was sent after Bush/Gore in 2000.
They didn't have the right tallies for that election they are further off for the 2008 election.

Obama won 25 states.

I always ask the senders of this type of fiction if the fact that they need to use lies to support their position makes
them wonder about the validity of that position. It should!

Has anyone every seen anything like this from the left? I haven't.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BlueState (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:59 PM

11. Besides which, acreage doesn't vote. People vote.

The states that Obama won have more PEOPLE. Their land mass is irrelevant.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:08 PM

8. "they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury"...

Isn't that what the 1% has been doing for the last 30 years?? They have been raping this country for way too long and killing the 99%.

The rest of the email is jibberish that really makes no sense.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:50 PM

9. Snopes says that is mostly false:

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:58 PM

10. All of these have been debunked by Snopes

The Hamline professor insists that he did NOT write this and has no idea how his name got attached to it.

The Alexander Tyler quote is faked. He was a real historian, but that quote is not found in any of his writings. The first known citation is from an Oklahoma newspaper in 1951.

As for this "not a democracy but a republic" meme that Republicans (gee, wonder why?) have been spreading, it's based on having slept through ninth grade civics class.

A republic is a country without a monarch. There are two types of democracies: direct (everyone votes on everything, as in a board meeting) or indirect (people elect representatives). The U.S. is BOTH a republic AND an indirect democracy.

But you can tell some of those low-information anything and they'll believe it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ErikJ (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2012, 12:00 AM

12. The logic in that right-wing chain-mail is terrible

They said Clinton would be the end of America too. I wonder how they live their lives being so scared every day.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread