This made me sick.

[kpete]

Chris Kyle

Today I don't know exactly what to write. I am overwhelmed with gratitude and my heart is full. American Sniper has broken records, which follows such an honest path of Chris's life. We never expected anything and were always in a moment of stunned silence at the response from all the beautiful people in this world.

Thank you Jim DeFelice, author of the book American Sniper for getting us on this path.

I also just want to cry and cry and honestly have today. I think that's what happens when I don't have the words. The only thing I can say is thank you. Thank you for the love and support of our military. Thank you for being willing to watch the hard stuff and thank you for hearing, seeing, experiencing the life of our military and first responders. I put them together because the battlefields may be different but the experience is the same on many spiritual levels.

Thank you for laughing with us too. This picture was taken after we had both of our kids after the third deployment. We flew to Oregon over Christmas break. My folks, my sister and her family, Chris and I all went to Mt Hood to play in the snow. As per usual, Chris and I ended up being the biggest kids in the bunch and had a snowball fight that ended in a tackle and hysterical fit of laughter.

To Chris: I miss you and yet I know you are here. You are the man who I couldn't have even dreamt of because you were/are better than I could have dreamed, the love of my life, my friend, partner and the man who laughed with me through the pain and found joy in the smallest and best parts of life. I hope you see the love and good we will do together in whatever God has planned for the rest of the journey. Thank you for loving me. You are with me and I love you is all I can say. I can only say it simply, because there aren't words enough to express it all.

To all of you who have written, texted, or communicated support by simply seeing the movie and those who are offering opportunities to continue the work... I am so grateful for each and every one of you. It gives me strength and hope for the future. I am praying that God works through all of us and that you all are blessed in return for the tremendous blessings you are giving our military and police who take care of us every day.

United We Stand

God Bless,

Taya
Micah 6:8

worst of all, it was on my FB, posted by my nephew

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

1. I have not been paying attention to this issue, does movie glorify snipers?

was that ass Eastwood involved?

i could google it and will but i am not sure what people are responding to.

[elias49]

3. Spending winter under a rock? nt

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

27. Now THERE is a helpful response....sigh

[benz380]

32. Well are you? (lol, sorry couldn't resist) n/t

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

36. Rocks arent my first go to, now if you are talking sand, beaches, Hawaii...YES

[elias49]

33. Sorry, but feigning ignorance about the topic

isn't really helpful either.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

35. Hmm, do you have to be a paying member here to use the ignore function?

[GGJohn]

2. What's sick about it?

It's his widow expressing her feelings. So what?

[B2G]

4. It was written by his wife for godsake

What would you expect her to say?

[tularetom]

11. I would expect her to say exactly what she said

But I wouldn't expect her to put it out where the whole world can read it. It seems sort of bogus to me.

Maybe she's just pimping the movie to help her pay the cost of the $2 million judgment her husbands estate owes fellow Seal Jesse Ventura.

[Orrex]

34. Maybe you should call her and offer her your helpful suggestions

I'm sure that your sensitive input would be greatly comforting to her as she remembers her murdered husband.

[Sunlei]

5. hopefully, any offended global people know 'the sniper' is dead, killed on his gun range.

There is no need for 'extremist revenge' over a fiction movie.

[gratuitous]

6. She signed off with Micah 6:8?

Maybe she needs to go back and read that verse again, and figure out how that squares with traveling thousands of miles to blow people away in their own neighborhoods.

[kpete]

9. I just do not get all this killing in the name of whoever's god(s)

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly with your God.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah+6:8

[oberliner]

30. Maybe 1 Samuel 15:3 would have been more apt?

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

[Dreamer Tatum]

7. His wife can't miss him? Christ. nt

[hunter]

16. She wouldn't be the first wife to miss a serial killer husband...

One of the reasons wars happen is that sick nationalist or religious warriors on both sides are able to find "talent" like Chris Kyle and "develop" it.

What would Christ say? (Seeing how you brought Christ into this...)

[Dreamer Tatum]

17. Meh, whatever. He was a soldier and they made a movie about him.

As an adult, I can accept the movie for what it is. I don't get assburned that people are going to see it.

You might try it some time.

[Jefferson23]

8. 2015, and no film made by US studios that depict the foundation, in detail, of the politics

and death tolls/repercussions of Iraq and Afghanistan wars...the architects of torture, all of it.


I believe that would go a long way to understand how Chris Kyles develop and the
film/ a documentary or not, can display, based on the historical record, those who served
and spoke up...as well as those who did not become, Chris Kyles.

Perhaps American film makers do not feel there is an audience for such a thing.

[kpete]

10. it feels so

Cowboys & Indians

White Hat - Black Hat

in my world, these simplifications
always needs to be questioned.


peace,
kp

[Jefferson23]

14. I agree, completely.

peace out to you as well, kpete.

[Dreamer Tatum]

18. I am willing to bet that you haven't seen the movie. nt

[GGJohn]

20. From the way OP is describing it,

I'd be willing to bet that also.

[kpete]

21. no, and i never will

mr. pete read the book

We have been discussing it for some time now



Clint Eastwood is now in my John Wayne file

I try very hard to avoid opening it.


again, white hat/black hat really bugs the shit out of me.


I like nuance.....


peace,kp

[Dreamer Tatum]

25. I think maybe you'd be doing yourself a favor

if you quit assuming the world is all black/white, because (spoiler alert) it makes you LOOK
at the world in black/white.

I am CERTAIN you disagree, of course.

[Act_of_Reparation]

39. "Nuance"

A word so overused on these forums, all meaning it once had for me has now been supplanted by the intolerable self-important surquedry it so implies.

You're critiquing a movie you haven't seen; and while the movie may be as bad as you describe, it would be best you stop pretending that you have an intellectual leg to stand on at this point. Because you don't.

And, incidentally, I take a "nuanced" view of Hollywood... which means, essentially, I understand that unless you find the director's name next to the screenwriting credit, you can assume the director didn't write the damned movie. So, you can take Clint Eastwood out of your "not-nuanced" folder, and replace him with Jason Hall.

[JackRiddler]

19. There have been attempts.

Side note: Imagine "American Sniper" directed by Kubrick!

[Jefferson23]

23. Thanks for the clip. I hope someone takes on the entire saga..beginning to at least 2008.

Careful construction, based on the record..perhaps a documentary is best..I don't know.

Kubrick was able to create visuals that were scary as hell, so yea, that would have
been interesting, to say the least.

[oberliner]

31. Check out Stuff Happens by David Hare

It pretty much does exactly that - quite artfully.

[yeoman6987]

12. A widow still in morning over losing her husband

I think she is expressing her feelings as a spouse who lost the love of her life. It is actually beautiful. Hopefully she will eventually be at peace.

[bigwillq]

13. I really don't see anything wrong with this letter.

A lot of god stuff, which I am not into, but if other people are, I won't judge.

Letter seems like it's a woman that misses her husband. Nothing wrong with that.

[Avalux]

15. I agree. Glorifying a man - and a liar - who killed over a hundred people is tragic.

And with Clint Eastwood making sure that Bush's lies made it into this film as FACT is enough to make me want to vomit. The fact that so many people flocked to see it saddens my heart.

Chris Kyle was a trained killer and I don't care what the justifications are to make it OK, that's what he was. He also lied about a whole lot of things, including punching out Jesse Ventura. His wife is in denial and those who think he's a hero are idiots.

[Amishman]

22. Take a deep breath

Its his wife, it is perfectly fine for her to feel and express those feelings. It is also fine for her to express them to the general public. A blockbuster movie was made about her husband's life, it is expected for her to react and respond.

I think some people are being a little too thin skinned about this movie.

[OKNancy]

24. It's his wife for god's sake

I think some DUers need to back off the bitterness.

[DesertDawg]

26. Dear Taya,

Your husband was a punk, a typical bar room loser pissing his life away telling bullshit stories crafted in a sociopathic mind, attempting like so many other losers before him to craft a bullshit story in an attempt to be the "real life Rambo." The only unfortunate thing in this whole ordeal is the Marine killing this clown as his lies were unraveling. Imagine, had he not been killed. The truth would have gotten out and his claims would have collapsed just like all the other wannabes like Frank Dux, Bo Gritz and so many others.

Instead some Marine prevented reality from seeing the light of day and instead we are left with movies and TV Shows glorifying a racist pathological liar. A pathological liar who insulted the SEAL Community when he lied about a legit SEAL badass, Governor Ventura. Instead of promoting your husband maybe you should do the right thing and let the truth be known, not this glorified Hollywood garbage.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

28. So I did miss something, I ignored this whole thing because I heard the idiot Eastwood was

involved, director I assume.

Clint is not capable of making a movie about war or Bush or the Middle East that isnt anything but complete bullshit.

From comments here I assume the writer or director included the LIE that the Iraq war was about WMD?

Glorifying killing is not something Clint invented, however.

Hollywood should be ashamed of all the shit glorifying wars by our Empire.

And, BTW glorifying street violence is very very different.

[oberliner]

29. Her husband is dead

She is raising two children by herself.

Maybe cut her some slack?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

37. She is a victim as was her husband, in one very real way.

We have an empire that is used by extremely corrupt and murderous people, most recently W and Cheney, to achieve personal and political profit or gain.

If this person started out a killer or asshole then we wont shed too many tears over him, but most dont, most start out with idealized visions of what patriotism is and then the empire turns them into whatever it wants.

I have family members who till their dying day simply wont be able to see what level of brainwashing they have undergone by the military.

[oberliner]

38. Where does Obama fit into your world view?

Do you hold him responsible for any of those killed by American forces during his presidency?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

41. We are all guilty, arent we? Do you think Obama starts that war in Iraq if he was prez

when W was?

???

[oberliner]

42. He certainly supported the war in Afghanistan

Plenty of blood on our hands there, wouldn't you agree?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

44. You didnt answer my question...

Do you acknowledge that from a merely strategic viewpoint, going into Afghanistan actually made sense vs Iraq?

I dont suport ANY of it, mind you

[oberliner]

45. I don't know the answer

Who can say what he would have done with respect to Iraq? You may be right that he would not have intervened. It's also possible that something could have happened down the line that would've pushed him to act. No way of knowing really.

What we do know is that he did support the invasion of Afghanistan, a country that did not actually attack the US, and that such an invasion resulted in a great deal of loss of innocent life.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

46. While you and I debate this, and we should, I am "playing" with brain dead rightwingers on a board

where they assure me that a flat tax would be great and that increased taxes on the wealthy would be terrible.

These are middle class people.

We have immediate fish to fry right here at home....

For the record, I HATE drones

[oberliner]

47. I often note that when things get nasty here on DU that we are all basically on the same side

Hard to believe sometimes but generally true. Especially when one pokes one's head into the world of right wingers and the like.

[mnhtnbb]

40. Did you feel the same way for Marina Oswald?

Just curious.

[oberliner]

43. If someone made a post bashing her I'd tell them to cut her some slack too

Otherwise, she doesn't really cross my mind one way or another.