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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMHO, I don't think the US is in any position to condemn human rights violations
The same people that are adamantly against lifting the embargo and normalizing relations with Cuba on the grounds of human rights violations must not be keeping up with news in the US.
Lets see, protests about police brutality, not in Cuba but here in the US.
We torture people. So does Cuba.
How many people in the US don't have access to health care, go hungry, and are homeless.
And voting! Just look at all corruption with our election process. Do we really have free democratic elections here?
I could go on .....
I am not saying that people were not wronged in Cuba by Castro. All I am saying is I really don't think people like rubio and that orange drunk on the hill really have any righteous ground to stand on. Especially since it is the rethug party, their party, that is hell bent on violating basic human rights on their own people.
Pot meet Kettle, and guess what? Your both burnt black.
djean111
(14,255 posts)TBF
(32,056 posts)business judging Cuba. That little island did pretty well for half a century without our help at all. Many here may not like their form of government, but I'm sure there are people in other parts of the world who cast a weary eye at our capitalism.
And Rubio can shove it. I have little patience for that twit.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I mean yes America has some real problems, but I'm not sure there are many nations who can hold themselves up as a light - and the ones that can don't seem inclined to. Scandinavia of course, but they have the advantages of a lot of oil money and a largely racially homogeneous population.
If someone is going to speak out on human rights violations, who should it be?
Bryant
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And while like much of the world they have made great progress in the last few years, it is a matter of history that Castros government in the 1960s sent more than 25,000 gay men and others deemed unfit for military service to labor camps.
Authorities until 1993 forcibly quarantined people living with HIV/AIDS in state-run sanitaria.
So labor camps for 'those people'. Good stuff. Just like the US. Remember when we put all the people with HIV in quarantine ie prison? I don't.
Forget history, repeat history, remember history, change the future.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)We are moving with unstoppable momentum to corrupt governmental model which threatens and terrorizes citizens into forced subservience.
It all makes it easier for politicians in Washington to steal your wealth and distribute it to the real benefactors of the US Government - corporate CEOs.
pampango
(24,692 posts)progress?
Assuming that liberals are more genuinely committed to a world without human rights abuses than are conservatives, do liberals want the US to stop condemning human rights violations - perhaps relying on 'purer' countries to do the criticizing - until we clean up our act? Or do liberals want us to continue to condemn human rights abuses AND clean up our act?
Obviously, if American liberals stop condemning human rights abuses the void will not be filled by conservatives - except in instances where neocon objectives can be served by the facade of conservatives caring about human rights. It is hard to imagine a liberal running for office on the platform that the US will ignore human rights violations in the world, because we would be hypocritical to say anything about them.
Is it more likely that we clean up our own act, if we stop raising the issue internationally or if we sense the hypocrisy in our words?
Roland99
(53,342 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)way to U.S. federal court or the Hague, the U.S. should just STFU about 'human rights.' We have ZERO standing.
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)I had to chuckle when Scalise said Cuba needed to treat people better before the U.S. recognizes them. Ahhhh....I needed a good laugh this morning.