Whats the point of Obama winning re-election if dems still dont have the house

[GusFring]

and maybe even the Senate? Seems like we're screwed either way

[abq e streeter]

1. SCOTUS nominations, for starters

[Bozita]

2. appointments to SCOTUS

[banned from Kos]

3. Veto crazy right wing bills?

enforce the Affordable Care Act?
Supreme Court appointments?
no Iran War?
enforce Consumer Protection and bank regs?

[handmade34]

4. wrong question...

no ifs... just get the lead out and everybody work as hard as they can to make it happen...

[Rosa Luxemburg]

5. Are you suggesting Romney instead?

[GusFring]

11. Im suggesting nothing. It all seems pointless.

If dems dont have the senate, I dont see Obama being able to appoint a SC justice.

Hr cant even get federal judges on thr bench right now.

[JI7]

6. Supreme Court and so many other things that you should know

[Tx4obama]

7. Appointments to the SCOTUS, Federal Courts of Appeals, Distric Courts, etc.

Also with President Obama being president there will NOT be a republican in the Oval Office that could do shitty things via executive orders.

There is a HUGE difference between having a Democratic president compared to a GOP one,
even when there is no control of the House or Senate.

[arcane1]

8. Well, there's veto power, for one

Though I would be much more comfortable with nice cushy majorities in congress

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Your concern is noted.

Of course, what's the point of the GOP even bothering to field candidates, or for its gibberring, drooling, creationist base to bother to vote at all...

...when they're going to lose the White House, contraception will still be available to women who won't keep their sinful knees crossed, and TEH GAYS are coming to confiscate their Truck Nutz™?

They should just stay home and pray. Really, it's the only sensible move.

[Motown_Johnny]

10. So many reasons

Here are my top 3 (in no particular order)


Supreme court, and other judicial, appointments

Vetoing Conservative legislation if the (R)s do hold the House and Senate

Having a Commander In Chief who isn't a RW nutjob

[Thrill]

12. There will be serious damage done if they were to have the Presidency

and Congress. Serious Damage

[newspeak]

59. what do you mean?

they've already caused serious damage with eight horrible years of little boots. And part of the plebes have very short term memory. All repug branches, would just finish us off. Do what they wanted to do get rid of SS, medicare, sell us to the highest bidders and privatize the shite out of the government. Well, it's happening since little boots; it would just be complete. Then, we can all be captive consumers to the corporations, foreign or domestic, won't make a difference. And forget about having even a little voice in this country, because business will rule the land; and forget about safe drinking water, safe food, safe any product; because it will be "buyer beware", no ones looking out for you. We'd be chum for the sharks.

I'll vote-I always vote, but with the bills they're passing against the peoples' interest and the voting suppression bills; I don't hold out much hope for a more compassionate, less greedy, less corrupt environment.

[GusFring]

13. If they have the senate, Obama isn't getting a justice through the process.

[chowder66]

14. Why keep living if we are going to die anyway?

With all seriousness....we have to try and we have to keep the pressure on to get congress to start cooperating. Plus all of the other reasons everyone has been stating in this thread. There are good things happening.....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002579300

[GusFring]

16. I guess thats hope, but how is Scott Brown beating Warren?

[chowder66]

31. I can't say... but it has been going back and forth.

Warren up, Brown up, etc. This is not the time to get discouraged. That time has come and gone. Things suck but they will suck worse if voters do not participate and decide not to show Washington that we mean business. Every single vote is important. The right is going to go to polls to defeat Obama and only Obama. They don't give a crap about anything else....which pisses me off to no end. That is the most cynical bullshit and the voters who do that are hurting children, the elderly, their neighbors, themselves, women, men, vets...the list goes on. How can anyone hate that much or want to make a point based on something as singular as that? That alone should get the rest to vote...to support democracy...to support each other....we can then keep working towards making things right again and push for more progress. This is why it is vital that people get interested in their local politics as well. We need to keep inching things forward toward progress.

Dig deep.

[randome]

15. Go see a movie.

Or something.

[YoungDemCA]

17. This thread again?

nt

[DevonRex]

18. We're doomed. There's an asteroid headed this way, too.

And did you hear that the poles are gonna shift? So it really is all pointless. If that weren't enough, I didn't save 15% on my auto insurance.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. The sun will explode in about 4 billion years.

Really, there's no point in doing anything except maybe admiring Sean Hannity's hair helmet.

[Caretha]

30. I think it is much more dire than that

4 billion years! Piffle...12-21-2012 is only less than 8 short months away.

What are we gonna do....I say....what are we gonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa do!

[DevonRex]

36. He's much too nice a man

to deal with the catastrophe adequately. It will take a man with a chalkboard to handle what's coming our way, armed with HITLER references!!!!

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[liberal N proud]

19. A government completely controlled by the GOP?

God help us all if that happens.

How many wars could they start?
What would be left of social programs?
What environmental protection would be left?

[leftyohiolib]

20. and let me add SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS SCOTUS

ALL other considerations are secondary

[DevonRex]

22. I'm sorry, but he already gloomed and doomed that one to death

up above somewhere. Might as well prepare yourself for the end now. If we're lucky, the asteroid will hit first.

[dionysus]

49. man the cruise missle consoles!!!!11111

[tabasco]

21. HAHAHAHAHA!

I can't believe so many DUers wasted their time responding to this.

Including me!

[DevonRex]

23. I think he just watched Melancholia on Netflix.

That's the only reasonable innocent explanation I can come up with.

[thelordofhell]

24. Look no further than the great state of Arizona

We had a good Democratic Governor in Janet Napolitano that vetoed the crazy republican state bills that went through our republican dominated legislature. Then she took a better job in President Obama's cabinet and we were left with wacky repub Jan Brewer who has been useless for our state.

[CakeGrrl]

25. Oh looky - a cleverly disguised attempt to suppress Dem voter turnout!

[Warren DeMontague]

26. Hey Gus

Phone's ringin'.

[alcibiades_mystery]

37. Only reply in this thread worth a damn

[sharp_stick]

42. Sometimes I think

our good ol Gus could use that wired up chair.

[Tarheel_Dem]

55. !!!

[lunatica]

28. Give me a fucking break.

I wonder if there's a point to your life. Why should anyone bother with you. What difference do you make?

[Taverner]

29. I think we are going to take the house and retain the senate

You may think I'm crazy, but the reich wing is pissing off some serious folks

If the youth come out and vote, the GOP is toast

[Caretha]

32. Hell

the youth....they done gone and pissed off the women folks.

You know what they say..."Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned".

[Taverner]

34. That's not the youth. That's Republicans.

There is a big difference

[Caretha]

40. I'm not sure

I understand your reply to me. Believe me, I do not underrate the youth...."Age is not an accomplishment & youth is not a sin" is a motto I've embraced. The youth came out big time in 2008, my youngest daughter made me look twice at Obama...

I'm simply trying to state in obviously an ineffectual way, that the Republicans brought the tsunami on themselves, the wrath of the female voter.

With both a larger than ave. youth & female voter turn-out, me thinks that the media and the poll maker-uppers (I made that term up) is way behind the curve, and they, being the Republicans & corporate controlled media will be taken totally unaware come Nov. 2012.

[Taverner]

41. Female Youth, and the men they have as friends, would never let Romeybot be President

Add all other Females and...


That's AT LEAST 50% of the vote right there!

[Caretha]

43. Not including

registered Democrats.

Zowhie! I think we're talking at least 137%

That is how Repugs do math, right?

[Warren DeMontague]

45. I agree.

I think, at least, we've got a shot.

If it happens, though, we better not fucking blow our majority, again. Time for REAL leadership. Equality on LGBT marriage rights, an end to the drug war. Legalization of MJ, or at the very least a full reschedule and backing off in leiu of state-by-state decisions. And if the SCOTUS torpedoes the Health Care law, it's time for medicare for all.

[boxman15]

33. Unbelievable.

Here are a few reasons, and this is just the tip of the iceberg:

1. A re-elected Obama will crazy right-wing bills that will inevitably pass under a Republican Congress (if that happens)

2. A re-elected Obama can turn the Supreme Court back to the left, which will have a lasting influence on US policy for a generation.

3. A re-elected Obama will continue to be a great diplomat for the United States of America. Our standing with the rest of the world will continue to improve.

I could go on for hours. Any progressive who falls for the "Woe is me, what's the difference between Obama and Romney?" trap is falling for the same trap the GOP (with the help of Ralph Nader) set in 2000 with the "Woe is me, what's the difference between Bush and Gore?" bullshit. And the result will be equally disastrous.

Parts of the left never cease to amaze me. It's attitudes like this that have stagnated progress in this country post-LBJ. That's why we can't have nice things. It's because the bozos on the right show up in droves to vote and huge swaths of the left convince themselves that it's not even worth it and stay home.

Wanna know why you're not seeing as much progress as you might like? WE'RE NOT VOTING. Make our voices heard, and they'll listen. Sit at home and moan all day, and nothing will happen. Because you're not the ones deciding if they keep their jobs or not.

Fuck.

[Rex]

35. No I don't think so, we will win back the House.

Why would we give up when we have the advantage? That makes even less sense.

[onenote]

38. There is about a million times more point to Obama winning re-election

than there is to this OP.

[TheKentuckian]

39. To keep the barbarians from controlling the entire government?

Veto their garbage?

Keep the Scalia types off the bench?

A Presidential term is two sessions of Congress, so even if we can't regain this year we have another session?

Keep Rmoney from being on TV all the time?

Piss off the bigots?

Keep McTurtle from being the smartest person in a key leadership spot?

To continue to make some headway in getting non-nut jobs into the bureaucracy?

[bluerum]

44. Ha ha ha. Ur funny.

A bit,,, obvious, but funny.

[Telly Savalas]

46. U.S. politics is about damage control

That's the point.

[Logical]

47. Self delete and save face! Face palm!

[treestar]

48. Someone to veto crazy right wing bills?

I dunno, seems like that separation of powers thing works out sometimes.

[Auntie Bush]

50. The whole country will be like WI, OH and AZ. How's that worked like them.

I just can't imagine the horror of having a Rethug President and congress...not to mention the SCJ...probably TWO of them.

[mmonk]

51. To give the right the finger? That's good enough in itself.

[opihimoimoi]

52. The GOPers will lose the House, the Senate, and the Presidency..they have lost the trust of too many

people in these past few years...enough people have taken notice to make the difference in NOV...

[Generic Other]

54. You better be right DUDE!!!

If I have to spend another 4 years with those evil beings in control...well let's just say I will be very mad.

[spanone]

53. everything

[Tarheel_Dem]

56. Quite a few doom & gloom posts over the past few days. Gee, I wonder what that's about?

[GeorgeGist]

57. Somedays ...

[WI_DEM]

58. Fairly ignorant post? A president can stop the GOP using his veto!!

[jpljr77]

60. Echoing others on the SCOTUS, with specifics:

Unless you want Ginsburg (and potentially Kennedy and Breyer) replaced with an Alito clone, then there's no reason at all to worry about Obama winning re-election. There is also an outside chance (very, very outside, but still possible) that Scalia will leave at some point. He just turned 76 and has 25+ years on the Court, fwiw. It would be swell if a Democrat chose his replacement (and again, he'd never, ever, ever, ever leave on his own volition under a Dem president, so like I said, it's an outside chance).

Oh, and one other thing: a Republican majority in both chambers with Romney sitting in the Oval Office. Bye-bye Dept. of ED, HUD, etc.

[AlinPA]

61. 1. The veto. 2. The veto. 3. SCOTUS appointments. 4. The veto.