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It appears that women voters have disappointed all over the map. I don't get it. nt (Original Post) kelliekat44 Nov 2014 OP
What happened to the record D GOTV effort? Epic Fail! caber09 Nov 2014 #1
Don't look at me shenmue Nov 2014 #2
You can only pander so much. earthside Nov 2014 #3
Republicans learned their lesson davidn3600 Nov 2014 #4
Gee, I thought it was white male voters who continue to disappoint theHandpuppet Nov 2014 #5
My friend, the truth is this. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #6
Democrats ran the war on women meme into the ground buried it in a hole deeper than the Grand Canyon DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #7
That is certainly true mythology Nov 2014 #8
There are other issues. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #9

earthside

(6,960 posts)
3. You can only pander so much.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:25 PM
Nov 2014

In Colorado the Udall campaign really did run his whole effort on birth control and abortion.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
4. Republicans learned their lesson
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:26 PM
Nov 2014

No Todd Akins this time around.

They aren't going to throw easy interceptions anymore.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
6. My friend, the truth is this.
Tue Nov 4, 2014, 11:36 PM
Nov 2014

Democrats ran the war on women meme into the ground buried it in a hole deeper than the Grand Canyon. I read somewhere that 60% of the ads mentioned the War on Women. We used it on Republican Women candidates. That's the gender equivalent of calling a black man an Uncle Tom.

We ignored the issues, and our campaign was basically that we sucked, but we sucked a little less than the Republicans did.

Colorado residents, two old friends from High School included, started calling Mark Udall Senator Uterus. It was all he campaigned on.

I mentioned a couple old friends, we grew up in the same school in Anaheim California. In 1988 we voted Democrat to protect a woman's right to choose. I know them, and have known them for more than thirty years. Missy told me today that she voted for Gardner because she was pissed that Udall was more worried about her birth control than all other issues combined. She felt he was manipulating her, or trying to.

How many times did I warn about this very outcome on this board? The War on Women became the same detested category of overused phrases like "Wazzup" and "Is that your final answer?" Back when I was in school, it was "Where's the beef?"

Without the Republicans playing along, willing to put forward the "real rape" quote we need, then the constant drumming makes many people feel like they are being sold a bill of questionable goods.

But, that's my take. Yours may be different.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
7. Democrats ran the war on women meme into the ground buried it in a hole deeper than the Grand Canyon
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:27 AM
Nov 2014

excuse me, but did the GOP stop trying to ban abortions?
Did the start compaginign for equal pay for the same work, regardless of gender?

No. so apparnetly the GIOP is still against women.

Unless of course, your point is to ignore that (sarcasm)

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. That is certainly true
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:41 AM
Nov 2014

But just pointing out that the other side is scary isn't enough.

But as another poster said, Republicans didn't have any Todd Akin's who decided to shoot himself in the foot with a howitzer.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
9. There are other issues.
Wed Nov 5, 2014, 12:45 AM
Nov 2014

That is not the only issue that the voters cared about. Take the Economy.

Republicans tie everything into the economy. From the "Job killing Obamacare" to the "Job killing minimum wage hike". Where the minimum wage was on the ballots, the people picked higher wages. BUT. The Democrats ignored it as an issue nationwide. They ignored the economy, other than to praise how well Wall Street was doing, which is the playground of the 1%. The answer is crap. People want to hear plans, and they want to hear that our plan is not to do the bare minimum. If we're going to go to the expense of dropping bombs, we should have a better plan than dropping weapons to the enemies by mistake because we don't have any of our people on the ground, supposedly. People instinctively believe that we aren't winning a fight if we don't have troops on the ground, right or wrong.

Ebola, more than half the people want to see quarantines. Nobody buys the line that you go from perfectly safe one day, to extremely contagious the very next day when the disease has a 21 day lead time.

I could go on typing until my fingers fall off. I could type issue after issue that Democrats universally ignored. We had the Baghdad Bob wannabe in DWS up on the news every day or so swearing that we were going to win big, and that all indications showed that Democrats were winning.

The truth is we desperately needed a Tod Aiken to use a Real Rape quote, and the Republicans learned to prep their candidates better.

Women's rights especially concerning equal pay and reproductive choice is an issue, but it's not the only issue. By focusing on that, and only that, we energized the small percent of the population who view it as the single biggest issue facing the nation. We may even energize the thirty percent that view it as a very important issue, even if it's not the most important issue. The problem is, we were going to get those votes anyway.

If we should learn one lesson from this debacle it's this. Read the polls, and respond to them. When the people think something is important, listen to them. At least address the issues in your speeches and highlight things you've said/done/proposed on those issues. If the public thinks you are tone deaf to their concerns, you're in big trouble in politics.

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