Re: Matt Damon, from Liberal comedian Rob Delaney

[FarLeftFist]

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[southernyankeebelle]

1. Can't say it any better than that. Damon needs to realize Obama is better than any republican.

[kenny blankenship]

12. you clearly didn't read a word of it beyond the headline!

[A Simple Game]

55. I believe Damon realizes that President Obama could be much better than he now is.

Saying he is better than any Republican is a backhanded compliment at best.

[izquierdista]

2. The grandkids may have health insurance....

....but they will get the same shitty run-around and denial of benefits when they actually try to get health [font size = 5] CARE[font size = 2]. Nothing has changed, just a minor revision in the quarterly profit projections for health con men, er, insurers.

FDR was a millionaire career politician who DID know that the common man existed.

[ProSense]

5. Right

"Nothing has changed, just a minor revision in the quarterly profit projections for health con men, er, insurers."

..."nothing has changed"

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ward-in-praise-of-obamacare-20111206,0,6794828.story

Not a single thing.

Low-income state workers begin to gain access to Children’s Health Insurance Program
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/2011/11/04/gIQAeDvotM_story.html

New Data: Obamacare Extended Health Coverage To At Least 2.5 Million Young Adults
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/12/14/389000/new-data-obamacare-extends-health-coverage-to-25-million-young-adults/

HHS announces record number of National Health Service Corps members
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hhs-announces-record-number-of-national-health-service-corps-members-2011-10-13

Rate Review: Cutting Costs for Consumers and Small Businesses – Chapter One
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/13/rate-review-cutting-costs-consumers-and-small-businesses-chapter-one

Reducing costs, protecting consumers: The Affordable Care Act on the one year anniversary of the Patient’s Bill of Rights
http:// www.hhs.gov/news/press/2011pres/09/20110923a.html

New Report Finds Vermont Could Save As Much As $1.8 Billion By 2020 From Shifting To Single Payer
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/11/02/359157/vermont-save-billion-by-2020-single-payer/

Vt. gets $18M for health exchange
http://www.pnhp.org/news/2011/december/vt-gets-18m-for-health-exchanges

Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer Will Seek Health Care Law Waiver To Establish Single Payer In His State
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/09/29/332031/montana-governor-waiver-for-single-payer/

[gateley]

11. I'm putting you on a plane to DC so you can be in charge of the Democratic messaging.

We NEED the people to see such clean, to-the-point, sound-bite FACTS that everyone seems to have missed.

What time shall I be by to pick you up?

[mmonk]

18. Has Vermont been granted its waiver yet?

[bigtree]

47. not yet

I think they're still in the 'health exchange' phase to satisfy the requirements of the 2010 Health Act. The only way around that would be to pass a specific amendment that would expressly allow single payer. At least that's the state of the issue right now.

The exchange would be replaced by the plan Vermont passed sometime between 2014 and 2017, if HHS is going to grant the waiver. Vermont is thinking more 2014, I'm sure. That would give Vermont access to the money in the national health act to set up their single-payer plan.

Of course, that does nothing to get rid of the other private insurers in the state, so it's going to challenge the cost-savings a single plan would offer.

There are also a few others needed for Medicare, Medicaid and veterans' affairs to get those on line.

[mmonk]

56. I didn't think so. Therefore, I don't think it should be counted

in a list of accomplishments. I have noticed quite the hypocrisy from the right when it comes to state's rights. They are only for it when it applies to their agenda or ideology.

[Feron]

38. As a uninsured person, it's not going to get better.

Now I'll be required to buy insurance I can't presently afford in two years. And because there are no price controls, the cost will only continue to go up.

Even if I do acquire insurance, it'll come with a large deductible. Which means that I won't be receiving health care unless it's a dire emergency and praying that the insurance will actually pay some of it.

And that means that medical bankruptcies will continue to rise or at least put more people out on the streets due to the bills.

Oh and the public option which would have reduced costs was traded away in a back room deal. Thanks Obama for your strong leadership for corporations!

A few good provisions does not make that law a good one.

Funny how people blasted Romneycare, but are now touting its twin Obamacare.

[izquierdista]

41. Yea, I wonder about how to make it to Medicare age too.

It's interesting to see how a thread like this has all the Potemkin carpenters busily hammering away, creating the scenery that all is wonderful in this Potemkin village called Obamaland.

[great white snark]

3. LOL

[phleshdef]

4. "Obama let you down? Blow it out your ass." YES!

Sounds like what I want to say around here at least 95 times a day (and would do so if it weren't for the cowards who jump on the jury system everytime someone hurts their fragile little feelings).

[ProSense]

9. Here's

what Damon said he preferred

“a one-term president with some balls who actually got stuff done.”

See Obama's entire record doesn't exist. He didn't repeal DADT, reform health care, regulate the financial sector or end the Iraq war. Nothing.

Prediction: Damon and others who spew fact-free nonsense to attack the President are going to solidify support for him. The OP is evidence of that.

[phleshdef]

13. Healthcare Reform and Financial reform alone are more than what most Presidents get done in 1st term

Of course queue the "blah blah its not good enough because it doesn't touch me in my progressive happy spot enough" BS.

[zipplewrath]

22. Sorta funny

This post both belongs in the Obama Group, and wouldn't be allowed there. You can't say;

"He’s a multi-millionaire career politician who doesn’t know you exist, you sissy,..."

even when you're supporting him.

This was the most back handed "vote for Obama 'cause the other guy is worse" kinda statement I've seen. It roughly suggests you can't expect to have a president that supports you, you just have to elect one that hurts you the least.

[phleshdef]

44. If you take that sentence at literal value, its mostly true.

Barack Obama is a multi-millionaire
Barack Obama has worked in politics for a number of years, though he has had other jobs that don't involve public office
Barack Obama has never met me and I doubt he has seen a picture of me or had someone tell him a story about me, so he likely does not know that I exist

[zipplewrath]

49. yeah, that's how he meant it

He was being real literal I'm sure.

[mmonk]

6. If the corporate health system is sustainable to last for them.

[EOTE]

7. This from someone who didn't vote for Obama in '08?

There was actually a legitimate reason to vote for him in '08. Since then, Obama has proven himself to be 100% a corporatist. This guy's got it backward. Yes, the democratic party is measurably less evil than the republican party of today. However, if we continue to give our votes unconditionally to complete corporate sellouts, it won't be for very long.

[ProSense]

10. I say

"This from someone who didn't vote for Obama in '08?"

...welcome aboard to him, and he's probably not the only one.

[EOTE]

25. I can pretty much guarantee that there will be more going the other direction.

I'm guessing not enough to cost Obama the election, but I think it's going to be closer this time around. This "all or nothing" style of politics isn't making the country a better place at all.

[Whiskeytide]

37. Well that may be true...

... but refusing to vote for Obama and other democrats just hands the keys back to the republicans, and I think everyone here believes that is exponentially worse.

There is not a satisfying solution to this dilemma. We all have to stop wishing there was and pouting about the fact that there isn't. If the far left abandons the democratic candidates, they have played into the hands of Rove, the Kochs and the special interests bent on completing the job of re-shaping this country to their liking. That alone is enough reason to support every democrat you can in every election you can, even if you think they are not always a good democrat.

[EOTE]

53. If the left abandons the democratic candidates, the candidates will have to come back to the left.

Yes, things may get very hairy for a while, but at least the republicans will be getting the blame for it. The alternative is to let the democratic party move further and further to the right until we truly have only one party. That's completely unacceptable.

[bvar22]

48. ANY Moderate Republican who voted McCain in 2008,

....should be happy to support Obama after looking at the last 3 years.
And THAT is what the "Centrist" Party leadership is counting on.




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[gateley]

8. I don't get the Damon reference -- but I'm gleaning he said he

felt Obama let him down?

[emulatorloo]

14. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/100256724

[gateley]

46. Thanks -- wow, don't know how I missed that! nt

[G_j]

15. so, he suggests we not attempt to hold a politician to their slogans,

and instead, blow it out our collective ass? That's not real constructive. It also sounds like he didn't vote at all last time around, so what is he talking about?

[ProSense]

19. Well

"blow it out our collective ass? That's not real constructive. It also sounds like he didn't vote at all last time around, so what is he talking about?"

..."blow it out your ass" was directed at Damon, and it's more constructive than what Damon said: “a one-term president with some balls who actually got stuff done.”

See the former quote impacts one person, Damon. The latter is completely delusional as it implies that the President didn't get "stuff done," that "balls" are needed to get "stuff done" and that the stuff that got done would be allowed to stand if that President lost.

I suppose Damon believes that the stuff the President got done that he's ignoring are going to survive if a Republican wins. Delusional.

[G_j]

23. sounds to me like he is talking to a certain group of people

"My least favorite people (at this second) are people who feel Obama “let them down” or “didn’t deliver on his promise.” Guys, “HOPE” was a one syllable slogan, a logo even, to get a corporate backed, big D Democrat elected in a cash contest. People like you are THE SAME THING as the “undecided” Republican caucus voters in Iowa being interviewed now and saying they’re not sure which candidate’s message (i.e. lies) resonates most with them."

[ProSense]

24. Nope

"sounds to me like he is talking to a certain group of people"

...he identified his "least favorite people," but this comment was directed at Damon:

"Obama let you down? Blow it out your ass. He’s a multi-millionaire career politician who doesn’t know you exist, you sissy, but he might be the reason your grandkids have health insurance."

[muriel_volestrangler]

26. Almost certainly NOT directed at Damon

Damon is not mentioned once in the blog posting; and "who doesn't know you exist" seems incredibly unlikely to be aimed at Damon. That would be like saying Obama is too ignorant of US culture to know who Matt Damon is.

[ProSense]

27. Disagree

"Damon is not mentioned once in the blog posting; and "who doesn't know you exist" seems incredibly unlikely to be aimed at Damon. That would be like saying Obama is too ignorant of US culture to know who Matt Damon is."

It was intentionally hyperbolic.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

30. Your interpretation is incorrect

Whether this is by design or not, I don't know, but this comedian is clearly talking about those not happy with Obama, as personified by Damon's statement.

[muriel_volestrangler]

32. Not mentioning Damon was 'hyperbolic'?

I don't think you know the meaning of the word.

[boston bean]

16. A man who didn't vote for Obama, heralded here, in this post, deserves recs?

this post is hypocritical, and would usually not elicit the many replies from some, just for the reason he didn't vote for Obama. He would usually be raked over the coals.

Interesting times, yes indeed.

[newspeak]

20. it seems like it's bash matt damon

try to find anything someone says about him, to discount what he said. Matt Damon is an intelligent, talented individual and I agree with him.

Yeah, we don't know how government works, the president is powerless, and those bad DINOs and repugs are blocking everything. I think you can go on the board before the 2010 elections and see some of the remarks, how disappointed some were with Obama's cabinet choices. Those cabinet choices are very telling about the direction Obama was going, especially when it came to the economic crisis.

It's amazing how the repug party, after nearly destroying this country and getting us in to a fabricated war, creating a huge deficit-some how was allowed to resurrect itself. While the corporate media after obama was elected was asking "is the repug party finished?" That was the time to be on the offensive, not the bi-partisan bullshite.

[ProSense]

21. Oh please

"A man who didn't vote for Obama, heralded here, in this post, deserves recs?"

See the two threads: "President Obama Richly Deserves to Be Dumped"

[UTUSN]

17. I alternated cheers& hisses all through the piece.(Cheers on the OBAMA side, to remove all doubt)nt

[joeybee12]

28. I love minimally talented celebrities who take umbrage

at everything a real celebrity says and has to try and one-up them.

We need that unrec button.

[ProSense]

29. Hmmm?

"I love minimally talented celebrities who take umbrage at everything a real celebrity says and has to try and one-up them."

Yeah, who does this peon think he is critizing "a real celebrity" like Damon?

[Bluenorthwest]

40. Who is he? A guy who did not vote for Obama.

That's your new hero? No vote for Obama, calling people names, and you dig that? Did you vote for Obama?

[CakeGrrl]

33. Yeah, I would've loved to unrec the Damon post.

[CakeGrrl]

31. Great rebuttal to Damon's naive outburst.

Matt and his millions can put up or shut up if he has a "ballsy" successor in mind.

[EFerrari]

35. Obama is a millionaire who doesn't care about anybody is a great rebuttal?

Will you be generating the bumperstickers?

[CakeGrrl]

36. No...seems you missed the gist of it. Read up.

[EFerrari]

50. I didn't miss anything.

He calls Damon naive for ever believing a millionaire cared about him and he says the Republicans are worse. Brilliant.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

57. Yes, Obama 2012:

He's a liar and doesn't care about you but the other guy is even worse.

I'm filled with enthusiasm.

[Zalatix]

52. That part sounded facetious to me. Considering what he said next.

[DeathToTheOil]

34. K'd & R'd

Massive!

[Bluenorthwest]

39. So Delaney did not vote for Obama and he's quarreling with those who did?

Sorry, the abstaining crowd has zero standing at all. Also, those who say 'you sissy' lack standing.
What makes this name calling guy a liberal?

[Starry Messenger]

42. Ah yes, the famous Rob Delaney.

Also known as "Wild Girls Gone: Whipped Cream Ass Man". A name to conjure with, to be sure.

[EFerrari]

54. Middles everywhere thank him for making them look respectable.

lol

[Bluenorthwest]

43. Another of his 'liberal jokes'

"Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. Except maybe a cute chubby girl's pussy."
See what he did there?
Men who say that kind of shit and call other men 'sissy' are a certain sort of men. . Macho stooge.
'

[Cameron27]

58. +1

[Bucky]

45. If I was a C-list celebrity, it'd be smart for me to pick a feud with an A-lister like Matt Damon

This is all wankery and self promotion on both their sides.

[Zalatix]

51. Bingo!!! K&R