9/11 and the Link to ISIS...28 pages of the report that should have been made public.

[kelliekat44]

Could have changed a lot about where we are today with ISIS.

I remember how folks were ridiculed for suggesting a link between the Bush family and the Saudis...accused of being baseless conspiracy nuts. Still think so? Listen to this discussion and recall what VP Biden said just a day ago.

http://www.cbc.ca/day6/blog/2014/10/09/did-911-report-censorship-pave-the-way-for-isis/

[niyad]

1. k and r for visibility

[billhicks76]

4. Yes We Have Been Hoodwinked

Conspiracy is about as dirty a word as liberal. It's bullshit. We have 500,000 people in prison on conspiracy charges but it's unthinkable that at the top high crimes aren't committed? They are committed more there. Just because small minds can't fathom it doesn't make it not true. And most of the disinformation propaganda is from paid contractors online. On HuffPost a huge chunk of people making it their job to discredit 911 conspiracy talk were paid military contractors.

[noise]

15. A couple of explanations come to mind

People don't like to think that the leaders of their country are acting in bad faith. Also the media doesn't like to be called out for ignoring corruption. It's so much easier for members of the media to bash 9/11 truthers. In US society the media typically is not called to task for their awful reporting on 9/11. By that I mean there are highly credible reports that the CIA deliberately withheld information about al-Hazmi and al-Mihdhar. Not a single US reporter has ever gotten a credible explanation for this conduct. In fact the chief of the CIA Bin Laden unit has never been interviewed.

We all saw how Roger Goodell got boatloads of criticism for his conduct in regard to mishandling the Ray Rice investigation. So I ask why on earth was there no scrutiny for CIA officials who withheld crucial information about 9/11 plotters? It's not a good analogy but my point is that the NFL Commissioner received more media criticism for mishandling an investigation after the fact than US government officials received for mishandling al Qaeda investigations before and after 9/11. It takes a cowardly media to look at this sort of conduct and respond by bashing 9/11 truthers.

[Enthusiast]

21. Media questions about 911 are verboten.

911 could never have been carried off without the cooperation of US intelligence agencies. It was a true conspiracy. No theory about it.

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[billhicks76]

27. I Agree

Our system is corrupted from the top down now and in this time of universal deceit telling the truth is looked at as an act of subversion.

[KoKo]

2. Althoug "ISIS/ISIL" is the latest name ....this is BLOW BACK

from Bush I and II coming home to roost. That those different Groups would "Come Together" under a banner that struck fear into the heart of President Obama and SOS John Kerry so that they took us to war AGAIN as Democrats not Bush Repubs......speaks to how America should NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED in this ME Fight in the First Place.

But...we have to protect Israel....and all follows from our vows to do that and the money spent for us to do that. It's not really about protecting Israel though. It's protecting Interests of Israel and their incredibly Powerful Netanyahu who will not compromise and seems to prefer eradicating Palestine and all those retailiating against the Israeli Settlements and Bombings (Mowing the Lawn) that Israel continues to do ....causing death, maiming and destruction to innocents in Palistine because Israel won't go to a bargaining table with Palestine to work out a solution.

This is where we are.

[zeemike]

6. Yep this is where we are.

But fear works so dam well...and we have the most effective device in history to deliver it...the TV...so damn well that even Democrats who used to oppose wars are now supporting them.

[kelliekat44]

11. +++1M nt

[Scuba]

3. More sunlight welcome.

[SidDithers]

5. You remember that, do you?...nt

Sid

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. She already said she did. What about it? nt

[riverbendviewgal]

7. I agree

Kick & Rec

[Triana]

8. Considering that the Bushes were pretty good friends with the Sauds/binLaden family...

...to the point that the ONLY flight allowed outside the US after 9/11 was one to send one of them back to Saudi Arabia (I believe this was the next day), I find this very VERY interesting, along with the fact that Bush essentially refused/deliberately failed to go after Osama after 9/11 - he had absolutely NO interest in exposing or retaliating against those WERE actually responsible for 9/11 - his buddies in the oil business - the Sauds. He instead cooked up bullshit excuses to invade and occupy Iraq instead.

VERY interesting.

Why isn't that effing psychopath and his Tricky Dick sidekick in PRISON?

[RobertEarl]

9. Kick

One day the Truth will be allowed to be known. One day. Sooner the better.

[johnnyreb]

10. Our government is protecting the real terrorists.

More precisely, those who are apathetic, ignorant, and those who ridicule, are empowering those in our government, media and institutions who are protecting the real terrorists.

Senator Bob Graham, at 2:53:

"My personal feeling is that it probably had more to do with things like protecting the special relationship between the United States and Saudi Arabia, the close family ties between the bUsh family and the Saudi, er, Kingdom. And the desire to avoid embarassment to the agencies, whose activities would have been disclosed by the release of those 28 pages."

[kelliekat44]

12. Kicking...don't let this die yet. Need more people to hear it. nt

[hardcover]

13. It was obvious from the start that Saudi Arabia funded 9/11

and it's funding Isil now. The secret dealings between the US and Saudi Arabia are the cause of the whole mess.
What will it take to get the truth out?

[noise]

14. Covering up the Saudi links to 9/11

makes a mockery of government claims in regard to needing police state powers to prevent terrorist attacks. For example the CIA torture program becomes nothing short of a full scale criminal conspiracy.

Note how we haven't had anything approaching a Church Commission. Instead in this day and age the CIA gets to redact a report that was intended to inform the public about the CIA's use of torture.

[JohnyCanuck]

17. We Were Lied To About 9/11 - Interview with Jersey Girl Laurie Van Auken

From Youtube description:

Lorie Van Auken was the wife of Kenneth Van Auken, a bond broker at Cantor Fitzgerald on the 105th floor of Tower 1 who was killed on 9/11. She, along with 9/11 Family Members Kristen Breitweiser, Mindy Kleinberg, and Patty Casazza were greatly responsible for the creation of the 9/11 Commission. Together, they were famously known as the "Jersey Girls," but are also known as the "September Eleventh Advocates." Lorie was part of 12 9/11 Family Members that made up what was called the 9/11 Family Steering Committee. She, along with the others, helped to monitor the 9/11 Commission, to supply 100's of well researched questions for the 9/11 Commission to answer, she worked with staffers of the 9/11 Commission, she helped the others fight for more time and money for the 9/11 Commission, and since the time of the 9/11 Commission, she has continued to be an advocate for 9/11 Justice.

[madokie]

18. Graham was trying his damnedest to tell us

I've always believed the saudi's had a hand in this from the get go. the bush/cheney cabal should be in the Dock at the Hague as I type or already convicted and hanged or whatever they do with people like them. they do not deserve to be walking freely amongst sane people anywhere at any time in the future. They are War Criminal and Traitors to the United States of America. Simple as that.

[CJCRANE]

19. I'd like to see the truth come out

but not in a way that can be used to cause more wars and chaos.

(Although suppressing the truth has also helped to promote more wars and chaos).

I'm not even sure the truth could come out to the masses given that the structure of the MSM is designed to prevent that.

I also worry that the UN is not strong enough to hold the world together.

There is a logjam of suppressed reports including this one, the CIA torture report and the (UK) Iraq Inquiry.

[panader0]

20. kick

[ChisolmTrailDem]

22. I want to hear from some of the furiously-commited-to-the-shrubco-official-story bunch,

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who have mercilessly chastised any here on DU who attempt to question the official story of 9/11, about this.

Where the fuck are you?

[johnnyreb]

23. 9/11 plaintiff family statements:

"It all ties together about financing power, leading back to the Saudis,"
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/17/4065348/federal-judge-waits-for-fbi-in.html

"It is all one big cover-up."
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/17/4065348/federal-judge-waits-for-fbi-in.html

a "coverup beyond belief."
http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/

"The US Government unfortunately chose not to stand by the families and survivors of 9/11. All we can say is that we were very, very disappointed"
http://www.browardbulldog.org/2014/07/u-s-supreme-court-green-lights-911-victims-lawsuit-against-saudi-arabia/

[Electric Monk]

24. K&R nt

[KoKo]

25. Recommend...Both Biden and Hillary put blame on Saudi Arabia...

from the article:

Graham says it's not just Joe Biden who has singled out Saudi Arabia for its support of extremist groups. Former U.S. Secretary of State Hilary Clinton made similar claims in a top secret cable released by Wikileaks.

"More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups," said the 2009 document signed by Clinton.

[JohnyCanuck]

26. The National Security Question Ann Kirkpatrick Won’t Answer

The National Security Question Ann Kirkpatrick Won’t Answer

“Congresswoman, have you read the 28 pages?”

SNIP

In our work to help achieve the declassification of this material—a goal that counts both the chairman and vice-chairman of the 9/11 Commission among its supporters—28Pages.org has grown increasingly convinced that a scandalously large number of House representatives have spurned the repeated and intriguing pleas of Jones, Lynch and Massie, choosing to remain in a state of willful ignorance where vital national security intelligence is concerned.

Arizona’s Ann Kirkpatrick may be one of those incumbents inexplicably disinterested in reading a passage that Jones described as “shocking” and Massie said caused him to “stop every couple of pages…and try to rearrange my understanding of history.”

To promote transparency and help create a full accounting of 28-pages readership on Capitol Hill, 28Pages.org has begun asking every incumbent representative and senator two simple questions:

Have you read the 28 pages?
If not, have you requested permission from your intelligence committee to do so?

http://28pages.org/2014/10/10/the-national-security-question-ann-kirkpatrick-wont-answer/