The ALEC exodus means one thing...

[Scuba]

... name change. Look for all the old players to re-form under a new and different cover for their treasonous crap. A little bad PR is not going to stop these fascists.

[HereSince1628]

1. Yep. And it will likely be worded just the opposite of what it actually is.

I really don't think names like "Kochs R Us" or "Legislation for the Complete Ignoramus" are likely names.

[Aerows]

30. "The Center for Economic Freedom"

Or "Americans for Progress", something like that. Freedom and Progress for the members, everybody else, well, fuck 'em.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

2. How will this be done, I wonder? What will the next right wing think group be called? nt

[Cerridwen]

3. Look for names having to do with corporate responsibility to the

environment/community/people/etc.

Hell, I'd even go so far as to think they'd use 99% somewhere in their new name.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

4. True. Right wingers always give deceptive names to their think tanks and groups to dupe

people into thinking they're give a damn about Americans.

[socialist_n_TN]

13. Using the "99%" somewhere.........

OR "Occupy" as another poster downthread mentioned, wouldn't surprise me at ALL. When there was talk last Fall about people trying to "co-opt" the Occupy movement, everybody was worried about political parties or commies or whatever and I mentioned the capitalists. THEY are the ones MOST likely and they have a LONG history of co-opting any counterculture thing that becomes popular to sell shit.

So the new version of ALEC probably WILL be named something "populist".

[Cerridwen]

16. Yep. I saw that post, too. "Occupy" or "populist" will be

key words to watch for.

Sad. But, predictable.

[hootinholler]

11. The Third Way n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

21. The Third Way can kiss my big behind. I can't stand Repukes trying to pass as Dems nt

[dotymed]

20. Well, in the last few decades "New-speak"

has become the norm, especially in politics. Their name will indicate an organization whose goals are exactly the opposite of their actual agenda.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. True - Repuke group names are all the opposite of what they do. Always.

We should make lists of these.

The first one that comes to my mind is,

Pro-Life (which is pro-death - they're sooo happy about the death penalty, war, etc.)

[dmr]

5. Yea, they'll probably call themselves 'Occupy Something'

But, you are right. It's typical of these kinds of groups.

[Fuddnik]

26. Or Smart ALEC

[LiberalFighter]

6. Just look for an organization that claims to be bipartisan and provide assistance with creation

of legislation.

The legitimate one is the National Conference of State Legislatures. If Republicans at the state level attend any other group providing support to state legislators they will have expense showing them attending it and paying membership fees.

[Scuba]

34. Thanks for pointing out that there is a legitimate alternative to ALEC....

... watching for membership in anything else is a good tactic for keeping tabs.

[bluedigger]

7. Probably some charitable organization doing good civic works.

There's always another rock to hide under.

[Justice wanted]

8. Yeah. It also means we need to understand more of what Corporations are doing to our Government.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. So true.

There's millions born every day.

[Mopar151]

10. More complex than that - the smartest rats leave the sinking ship first

ALEC's more agressiive stance on social issues has scared many of it's patrons - they have decided that their issues (union-busting, privitasiation, tax and regulation) have suffered with ALEC's alignment with the Tea Party crowd.
These players (The Smarter Rats), when they find a new alignment of expression, will be sure to do it with a little more savior faire'. Watch for the national Chamber of Commerce undergo a similar exodus.

[Scuba]

35. Thanks. Agree the Nat'l Chamber is vulnerable...

... to having local Chambers abandon them. Their real money comes from... oh yeah, they don't have to tell.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

12. They can run, but they can't hide.

[WillyT]

14. Did You Catch This ???

Link: http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/1002563872

[Scuba]

17. I had not seen it. Thanks for the link!

[BootinUp]

15. That was my first thought as well...nt

[obxhead]

18. Their beliefs have not changed.

The companies that are leaving the ALEC fold have not changed their beliefs in any way. They juts want to get away from bad publicity that might interfere with profits.

You're absolutely right. They will all form a new group or ALEC will change it's name and they'll all sign right back up after the publicity blows over.

[madokie]

19. Exactly, PNAC comes to mind

and right at the moment I can't tell you what they call themselves now but its the same major players

[Avalux]

23. That was my thought exactly.

As far as I know PNAC didn't organize under a different group, although the players are part of the American Enterprise Institute.

[Agony]

27. bunch of 'em landed here

http://www.defenddemocracy.org/about-fdd/team-overview/category/leadership-council


they are all just patriots...

you know... like you and me.

[Scuba]

36. Good example, thanks for posting.

[Odin2005]

24. Yup. The DLC pulled this crap, recently.

[Zorra]

25. +1. Perfect example. nt

[Scuba]

37. Good example, thanks.

[Drew Richards]

28. IF you are asking a serious question then the answer is Alec will become The CATO group...

Koch brothers are trying to take over the think tank right now...

They don't even care to hide or disguise their moves now a days since they are untouchable due to their wealth.

I'm sorry but I wish these two along with Darth Cheney would just suffer fatal heart attacks.

[CrispyQ]

29. Nailed it.

k&r

[xxqqqzme]

31. Homeland Environmental Legislative Program

H.E.L.P.

[October]

32. Yes, "Cela" perhaps? Corruption of Elected Legislative Assholes" <should I trademark it?>

/nt



Cela = Alec backwards... sorry to be so obvious.

[patrice]

33. Think of how close officially or otherwise ALEC could work with churches to "educate" on the issues

No, ALEC isn't going away. Churches need to do what they call "education" on the issues and to provide a political means by which the righteous can feel "empowered" against Satan, in order to keep those donations flowing into the collection. Need to feel good about yourself? Fight those evil _________________. Go to church where you'll find lots of people who will share their self-righteous buzzzz "education" about this or that (ALEC) legislation with you.

[Scuba]

38. Another reason I don't go to church.

[malaise]

39. 100% correct

Remember the PNAC group resurfaced elsewhere with the same scumbag warmongerers.

[PA Democrat]

40. They are like cockroaches when you hit the light switch.

They scurry and hide, but they are still there, waiting in the shadows, biding their time for the opportunity to reemerge.