New War 22 Billion yr, meanwhile $8.7 B Cut in Food Stamps causes Families to Lose $90 per month

[J_J_]

WASHINGTON (MCT) — The air war in Syria and Iraq has already cost nearly $1 billion and ultimately could cost as much as $22 billion per year if a large ground force is deployed to the region
http://www.stripes.com/news/middle-east/cost-of-air-war-against-islamic-state-already-near-1-billion-as-strategy-shifts-1.305511


Feb 7, 2014

On Friday, President Obama added his signature to legislation that will cut $8.7 billion in food stamp benefits over the next 10 years, causing 850,000 households to lose an average of $90 per month. The signing of the legislation known as the 2014 Farm Bill occurred at a public event in East Lansing, Mich.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-signs-food-stamp-cut


$90 per month is a lot of money to people who need food

That is such a pittance for the federal government, why did they do that?

To save money?

They cannot be serious that ISIS is so much more important that 850,000 Americans who are starving.

All of a sudden, money is no problem.

Where are the debt conscious Republicans that just wouldn't shut up before?

Imagine a headline, "ISIS causes 850,000 Americans to go hungry"

Imagine the outrage from the corporate media


We need to tell these assholes that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

This is completely unacceptable and they need to hear it from US!

[Autumn]

1. If I could rec this a million times it wouldn't be enough.

[msongs]

2. words mean nothing, it is actions that show the values of a president & congresspersons nt

[CrispyQ]

3. This: Imagine a headline, "ISIS causes 850,000 Americans to go hungry"

[L0oniX]

32. That is the real headline! No imagination needed.

[CrispyQ]

33. Imagine seeing it on CNN. -nt

[Moostache]

47. The headline should read:

"American Politicians use ISIS scare mongering to starve 850,000 citizens"

or

"Democrats cave to Right-wing (again); 850,000 scared Americans now set to starve"

or

"Obama's War: How ISIL is allowing the administration to destroy one of its only positive accomplishments"

or

"Fuck it....we are all screwed 6-ways to Sunday anyway, 850,000 Americans to be starved out of their misery earlier"

[FiveGoodMen]

53. "Democrats cave to Right-wing (again)"

I'm thinking 'cave to' should be 'collude with' at this point.

... but the 'again' part fits!

[woo me with science]

58. Thank you.

[leftstreet]

4. DURec

[yeoman6987]

5. There is no way President Obama signed off on this

We need to let the President know what he could sign if put in front of him. He gets tons of paperwork put in front of him. He needs our help letting him know details.

[Autumn]

10. He did sign off on it. Back in febuary.

[yeoman6987]

13. Why did the President sign off on this?

[Autumn]

16. It was the farm bill that the Senate passed

he doesn't have a line item veto.

[yeoman6987]

18. The Senate????? What the heck good is having a majority?

If the write bills like this?

[karynnj]

24. The Senate and the House must BOTH pass the conference bill - that limits how good it could be

Not passing the farm bill would be worse as then there would be NOTHING (including food stamps) that is contained in it.

[BrotherIvan]

26. Welcome

[nationalize the fed]

6. k+r

http://costofwar.com <--watch the numbers increase

that's a lot of $. The biggest theft in history. Debt slavery for the children of the people that allowed this to happen. Some of them are going to be less than pleased at what their parents left them.

[SoapBox]

12. And then the Pukes and Baggers have the "brass" to talk about saddling

future generations with debt from Social Security and Medicare.

Makes me so fucking mad.

[yeoman6987]

14. I just found out the President signed this tripe

Did he forget the VETO pen? Why are you blaming the Republicans when he have the Senate and President. Seems a lot of blame to go around.

[AZ Progressive]

19. Maybe we should be crediting the ruling class then?

[yeoman6987]

20. Bingo! Post of the day!!!!!!!!!

[deutsey]

23. Bingo

[truedelphi]

34. It is very hard for people to face what is going on.

Being in a state of denial at least offers some hope. "Why those terrible and idiotic and greedy Republicans."

As long as you beleive that, you have hope.

When you realize the corruption is systemic and that about 95% of all politicians are ruled by the Same Big Money forces, then it is despair time, and who wants to face despair on a daly basis?

[AZ Progressive]

17. I have to admit, the Republicans are 10th degree con artists

They could probably even swindle the devil himself.

[logosoco]

7. Another sad point about this is that the troops on the ground, the ones who aren't at the

top and who do most of the dangerous work, they aren't getting a cut of this. Many of their families rely on food stamps. Then, when they get home, if they have physical or mental health problems, their benefits are meager, especially compared to the amount of money put into the whole thing.

[Caretha]

8. K&R

[Skittles]

9. disgusting

cue the pretzel-logic folk to arrive excusing why this HAS to be done

[BrotherIvan]

27. He's not a dictator!

[truedelphi]

35. No he's not. He is someone who

Is dictated to.

And the rewards for him and his family will be multi-fold.

[uponit7771]

55. or.. que the winger meme that Obama is a dictator and therefore all that is bad policy is his fault.

...because congress doesn't exist.

Yeap...

Oh wait..

the "we had a majority" bullshit will come next or something like it no?

tia

[KG]

11. Because...reasons!

[ColesCountyDem]

15. Terror! Benghazi! Socialist! Hillary! Something! n/t

[jalan48]

21. Oil

Don't be silly. Everyone knows there's no oil reserves in food stamps.

[CanonRay]

22. Well, Somebody's got to pay for the war!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Fortunately, some of those 850,000 slackers and reprobates can join the military and eat well.

And, considering all the wars we're in and will be in for a looong time, the job is a sure thing.

[BrotherIvan]

28. ^^^^^^^That right there^^^^^^^^^^

It's not a coincidence that we cut social programs and college grants: it's the perfect funnel for recruitment. Poor kids dying for rich kid's trust funds and there's nothing we can do about it.

[marble falls]

29. Its unacceptable. If they don't pay taxes why shouldn't we get to decide where OUR taxes ....

go? I vote food, education, national health, a living wage over a military larger than the next ten militaries combined. Where does it end?

[Ed Suspicious]

30. But, but, but . . . BEHEADING!!!!!! :scared:

[L0oniX]

31. Because starving kids for war is patriotic.

[truedelphi]

36. There was a better, easier way to fund this war -

Kickstart it!

You want it, you fund it.

Because Obama!

[liberal_at_heart]

37. When will we the voters start holding these war loving politicians accountable?

[liberal_at_heart]

38. kick.

[Rex]

39. The plutocracy is working perfectly for the Ownership class.

[HereSince1628]

40. We can't put the nation, Europe, and the Middle East at risk just to feed children!!

This is a matter of priorities! Very sadly NOT

[grahamhgreen]

41. Kick!

[mokawanis]

42. kick

Money for war, but not for the poor. Disgusting.

[daredtowork]

43. Americans are Over-Utilizing Food

And poor people are just using access to food to make the choice to become obese and further over-utilize health care.

In the GOP mind, the obvious solution is to this Moral Hazard is tough love: if poor people don't have access to food they will make the preferred "choices".

[davidthegnome]

44. Something else to consider

The little store where I work stopped taking EBT cards (food stamps) on the 20th of this month. Apparently, the federal government is going to be charging about six hundred bucks a year to use the machines that swipe them. A good number of stores in the area would end up paying more to use the machines than what they get in profit, actually losing money on it. So a lot of the local ones will not be taking them anymore. This means, basically, that poor people will have to drive another ten miles or more to get into a bigger town with a bigger store. So they'll be spending more for gas (the ones that have cars and actually CAN make that trip) and now losing food money on top of that as well.

You're absolutely right that this is completely unacceptable. Particularly when you consider the price tag for this war effort, or the price of updating our nuclear weapons, building new ones and so on... a trillion here, a trillion there, eh, no big deal.

We can write our congress people, our senators, the white house... but ultimately, I don't think we'll have much success there.

One thing I've thought about though, is that if enough of us Americans who give a damn created our own fund, unattached to the government, and used it to fund our own food stamps program? Perhaps even build grocery stores with healthier food and drink, that, basically, if people earned under a certain level of income, they could go in and get food on credit, or buy it for a more reasonable price, or sign up for a program that would use donor money to buy them their groceries.

If the government is going to fuck us... well, maybe there's something we can do ourselves. Just a thought.

[840high]

45. We need to tell these assholes that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Best place to tell them is in the voting booth. Then they listen.

[liberal_at_heart]

46. This needs to be brought attention to every single day.

[blkmusclmachine]

48. The 1% and the politicians on their payroll have priorities, you know...

[jtuck004]

49. Part of supporting the money of people like Mi$$ RobMe. This is the plan, and if you don't think

so, please read Obama's Treasury Secretary Timothy McVeigh - I mean Geithner, I get my killers mixed up - the person who wrote "Stress Test" - which explains this plan and how it was shoved down the throats of bankers and others - because it was the best thing for bankers and thus, for you and all of us. They say.

After that look up asshole Timmy's interview on Jon Stewart, back in May, I think, where voters laugh at his face as he tries to explain what a good idea it is to fuck over everyone for the good of a few bankers.

And know that the fucking isn't over. There are still 9 million home loans underwater, and millions of foreclosures and business closures ahead as we raise interest rates. People are still burning through their savings and 401K's and millions of people who were formerly middle class will live in poverty for the rest of their lives, and most likely bring their children right into it with them.

Then go listen as the screechers try to find someone to blame it on, anyone other than whom the responsibility rests with.

[woo me with science]

50. Obscene. Sociopathic.

This is your government on corporate cash.

[SmittynMo]

51. WTF is going on in this country?

I blame both sides of the aisle on what is going on in the country. Especially the Republicans. Let's cut government subsidies for the poor(food stamps,etc), don't invest in the country by rebuilding infrastructure, ignore minimum wage, attempt to destroy national healthcare, shutdown the government, secret service inability to protect the white house, war on women, etc. I could go on and on. While at the drop of a hat, we can piss away all this money on another war we CANNOT afford and cannot win. Why are we not investing in our own country and it's people?

WTF is going on here!!!

[woo me with science]

57. Jimmy Carter: "America no longer has a functioning democracy."

[JEB]

52. The increased austerity also helps

drive the economic draft. Kids enlisting to escape a hopeless life of poverty.

[Marr]

54. That's it in a nutshell, isn't it?

And the money spent on oil wars is done purely for ultra-wealthy interests who then dodge taxes and do everything possible to hide their money overseas and outsource jobs.

So working people here get to go hungry so they can pay for the equipment their children will need to protect the investments of the prick who fired them last year.

Nice system, if you're a rich prick.

[woo me with science]

56. This needs to stay on top.

[J_J_]

59. More Than 48 Million Americans Live In Poverty, Census Bureau Reports

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014920745