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Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:05 PM

Andrea Mitchell: "Hillary Rosen has been to (Obama's) house...his admin threw her under the bus"

Peggy Noonan tried the same shit on "Morning Joe" this morning..."She's been to the White House 35 times!"

At any rate, Rosen APOLOGIZED, and yet "MommyGate" rages on.

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Reply Andrea Mitchell: "Hillary Rosen has been to (Obama's) house...his admin threw her under the bus" (Original post)
Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 OP
Mz Pip Apr 2012 #1
gateley Apr 2012 #2
Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #3
Stinky The Clown Apr 2012 #5
Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #9
gateley Apr 2012 #14
gateley Apr 2012 #13
ecstatic Apr 2012 #42
gateley Apr 2012 #46
truebrit71 Apr 2012 #4
Amerigo Vespucci Apr 2012 #6
AtomicKitten Apr 2012 #7
gateley Apr 2012 #15
Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #31
gateley Apr 2012 #38
tularetom Apr 2012 #8
FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #11
gateley Apr 2012 #16
FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #20
gateley Apr 2012 #25
Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #32
Arkana Apr 2012 #40
gateley Apr 2012 #45
Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #21
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #26
gateley Apr 2012 #27
GoCubsGo Apr 2012 #10
FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #12
gateley Apr 2012 #17
FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #19
gateley Apr 2012 #22
FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #24
gateley Apr 2012 #29
FrenchieCat Apr 2012 #30
gateley Apr 2012 #35
Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #18
Arkana Apr 2012 #37
SpencerShay Apr 2012 #23
MineralMan Apr 2012 #34
TwilightGardener Apr 2012 #28
arthritisR_US Apr 2012 #43
Fumesucker Apr 2012 #33
Arkana Apr 2012 #39
Arkana Apr 2012 #36
ecstatic Apr 2012 #41
leftynyc Apr 2012 #44

Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:08 PM

1. So what?

This is all the GOP has. They don't have solutions to today's problems so all they can do is make a mountain out of a molehill remark by some CNN democratic strategist.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:13 PM

2. I couldn't help but think, when I listened to Biden's, Michelle's and BO's statements -- did they

listen to the entire quote?

Don't they know better than to fall for a Republican faux outrage and spin?

They had the PERFECT opportunity to point out the real meaning -- that most Americans need two (or more) paychecks in order to SURVIVE! They blew this, IMO.


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Response to gateley (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:17 PM

3. EVERYBODY took the bait.

Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a slut, someone who wanted to be paid to have sex.

Rosen basically said that Ann Romney had to make a FINANCIAL decision between working at a "job" (as in an office) to pay the bills and being a full-time, stay-at-home mom (which no one said "is not work").

But that's the Republican way...they just lie in wait for the next opportunity to DEMAND an "apology," and they GOT what they wanted, but this one is too ripe and juicy to just let it go.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:20 PM

5. No, not everyone took the bait.

I never took the bait. I knew perfectly well she meant.

My issue is how fast the Obama people threw her overboard and then ran her down.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:25 PM

9. To clarify...by "everyone" I meant Joe Biden and the Obamas.

I was responding directly to what was posted, so no, I didn't mean "everyone" as "everyone." I meant it as all of the people mentioned in the post that I replied to. Just now Debbie Wasserman Schults called the matter "so overblown," and Mitchell is now digging her hooks into Chuck Todd. It apparently is Mitchell's "big story of the day."

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:40 PM

14. None of US took the bait and as I just said to AV, doesn't it seem like they didn't

hear the entire quote? I don't know which upsets me more, that they just took an aide's condensed version and Republican response and ran with it, or if they DID realize the intent of the statement and STILL knuckled under.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:37 PM

13. I agree! It's embarrassing that they seem to be able to whip us around like that. And

seriously, it seems like they didn't hear the entire quote. That's inexcusable.

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Response to gateley (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:12 PM

42. That's my take too

But I'm wondering if they did the calculations and figured it made more sense to distance themselves rather than try to explain the comments?

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:49 PM

46. I could see that IF the entire statement didn't so perfectly fall in line with

what we're yammering about -- the inequality in America. She practically wrote the script for them (her entire statement), and I don't see why they didn't run with it. But then, that's why I'm sitting here posting on DU and they're back there making 6+ figure salaries.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:18 PM

4. No Andrea, WOMEN like you threw Hilary under the bus by not accurately reporting what was said...

...but don't let that get in the way of you furthering the "liberal agenda"....

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:22 PM

6. Mitchell just said "I get the larger point, and she apologized for it."

She's trying to drag Debbie Wasserman Schultz into the "debate," but she just won't take the bait, and is saying this will not help Romney with his "gender gap."

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:23 PM

7. Hilary Rosen is not associated with the O campaign or with the DNC.

In fact, I'm pretty sure she is associated with the Americans Elect thing currently. But that doesn't matter. The wingnuts are going to take any comment made by any person not associated with the GOP and grind it into the ground. That's just how they roll.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:41 PM

15. We had an opportunity to show the difference between them and the majority of the country --

what is wrong with us?!?!?!?

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Response to gateley (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:44 PM

31. Not us, the leadership in DC.

Sorry, I am not taking the lashing for the President's foolish old fashioned sexist thinking. Sorry. It is the hung up straight centrists anti equality religionists, not 'us'.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:01 PM

38. That's who I meant by "us", obviously. And I'm not taking any blame, either, but we're the ones

who are the ultimate benefactors of these actions. So distancing ourselves from THEM accomplishes nothing.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:25 PM

8. Andrew Brainfart v. Shirley Sherrod part Deux

Once again the Obama Administration pushes the panic button and reacts to fake republican outrage.

It wasn't a big deal in the first place and it should have just been ignored. It's become a big deal because they stepped right into the middle of something that didn't concern them.

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Response to tularetom (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:30 PM

11. When the media wants to draw blood, they will......

not matter what you or I say about it.

Try fighting a media ready to fight you, and get back to me when you win.

I clearly remember how John Kerry's words were twisted back in 2004......
no matter how much it was explained.

But go ahead and blame President Obama....
I hear that is all of the rage anyways....
and exactly what the media has decided you should do...
since the only thing they want is the Obama admin to come up
the loser in this ginned up argument that the media has decided is
required in order of this election to be competitive enough that both
sides have to spend ALL of their millions on advertising...which is how
media makes its money.

Yeah...don't blame the media....blame obama.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:44 PM

16. The media jumped on this, Obama, et al, fell for it and missed a great

opportunity to explain that most Americans don't have that CHOICE -- more proof of the difference between them and us.

I love Obama, Michelle and really really love Biden, but I think they all missed the boat on this one.

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Response to gateley (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:54 PM

20. Like I said....

when you have fought the media and won, get back to me.

It ain't about anything other than what the media decides.......


I don't respect the media, and I'm not going to fault anyone other then them....
as they are the ones who have ginned up a nothing comment from a paid
CNN commentator and have decided that this is the news of the week.

It is not only ridiculous, but also it is the media how it will end,
and when it will end, and nothing that Pres. Obama says or does will change that.

If you don't know how the media operates by now...how when they get a bone
in their mouth, they will not let go, I don't know what to say about that.....

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:07 PM

25. But they could have USED this to our benefit, Frenchie. And we should have FOUGHT BACK.

They would have kept coming but this was so GOLDEN for us to be able to point out the disparities between the Romneys of the country and the majority of us. I think it would have reached a lot of ears, plenty of Republicans are in the same circumstances that we are.

This administration isn't perfect, and this is one of the times when I'm (obviously) frustrated by its actions.

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Response to gateley (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:47 PM

32. you are right. and also, the 'media' is not a new thing. How many times do they need to

get soaked to figure out that water is wet? "Oh, FoxNews acted just like FoxNews, who could know they'd do THAT!"
The Press Sec is paid 167,000 a year as head of an entire department that is dedicated to handing media issues. If they are so easily fooled, we should not spend that sort of money on them. Period.

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Response to gateley (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:05 PM

40. How do you "fight back" with this?

Obama had two choices:

1) Defend Rosen and double down on her comments. This gets him into a mud-wrestling match with Romney, and for the next month the campaign becomes about some throwaway line some woman who used to work for the DNC said in reference to Ann Romney. Obama's poll numbers sink, the gender gap closes, and then the narrative becomes "ROMNEY CLOSING THE GAP!"

2) Disavow Rosen's comments. Romney flails at thin air for a couple of weeks, the gender gap doesn't shrink, and the story is forgotten. Obama continues hammering Romney for being completely indifferent to the plight of working women and not disavowing any of the crazy shit his own people have said.

If you're a political operative, which do you choose? Which one gives you the best opportunity come debate time? You know, when Mitt Romney will attempt to use Rosen's comments to insinuate that Obama hates women?

e: Holy shit, I am not good at using plurals.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #40)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:44 PM

45. I think there's a third option (the fighting back) --

Here's what I would have said:

Hillary Rosen's comment has been mischaracterized and politicized. Her complete statement showed this was a comment on the economic inequity that is in America:

"His wife has actually never worked a day in her life, she's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids? How do we send them to school? And why we worry about their future?"

Ms Rosen has children and knows what a tough job it is being a mother. Her point was that most women in America don't have an option of choosing to stay at home or work outside the home. For too many, two paychecks are needed in order to merely survive.

Ms. Rosen doesn't work for us but her point is a valid one, Mrs. Romney has not had to face the fears, concerns and pressures of raising a family AND having to work to put food on the table.

THAT'S what I would choose. And I'd have had my writers come up with a short, brief soundbite to get that point across and THAT'S what the Democrats would have responded with and how I'd respond to Romney in the debates. Although, it probably won't be Romney who brings it up -- we can rely on the mediators to do that, I'm sure.


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Response to gateley (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:54 PM

21. Yes they did.

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Response to gateley (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:09 PM

26. "fell for it"? You mean the POTUS, his VP, and his wife were all duped?

They couldn't be expressing their actual values, and their reaction to an incendiary remark made by another Democrat? As we're often reminded here, we are not teabaggers. Hilary's colleagues were on The Diahn Rehm show this morning, and they all pretty much had the same reaction to the quote. It was uncharacteristically inarticulate for a professional like Ms. Rosen. She was called on it!

Does anyone get the irony here? The outrage junkies think the president jumped the gun, and "missed an opportunity". But they never miss an opportunity to jump down his throat for the slightest perceived infraction. Not everything is, or should be, political. And not everything is an opportunity to turn the tables on your opposition. Some things are just stupid, and since Ms. Rosen has apologized, I'm gonna bet in hindsight she would have phrased that quote quite differently.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:21 PM

27. They succumbed to the pressure and "outrage" and toed the line.

And I really disagree that it was an incendiary remark. If Rosen had only said that one sentence, I'd be cringing and thinking she could have worded it better, but the REST of the quote "..she's never really dealt with the kinds of economic issues that a majority of women in this country are facing in terms of how do we feed our kids? How do we send them to school? And why we worry about their future?" CLEARLY shows it was a statement on the economic disparities our country faces, not a slam on Ann Romney which is what the Republicans are portraying and how the Dems responded.

I'm not one of the ones who jumps down Obama's throat at the drop of a hat. I'm a strong supporter and really love him (and REALLY love Biden - but I fault him, too). I just think this one was a no brainer and yes, they "missed an opportunity".

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:27 PM

10. Boeher, McConnell, GHW and Jeb Bush, and a whole slew of other Repugs...

...have also been to Obama's house numerous times, too. So, what's your point, Mrs. Greenspan?

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:32 PM

12. Andrea Mitchell appears to be throwing women under the bus.....

but please, we shouldn't notice or say anything about that.

This is why pundits are referred to as media whores.....
they earn their keep by not caring one whiff about anything
more than what their pimp has ordered.....

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:45 PM

17. Plenty of posts are noting that, Frenchie. Be fair. nt

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Response to gateley (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:49 PM

19. Wish the media would note such......

DU posts aplenty means little in the larger scheme of things.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:55 PM

22. Ha! No kidding! We think everyone feels as we do! But the

media is a for-profit industry and it has to jump on THE story of the day. As infuriating and suffocating as it is, I don't think we can hope to expect anything better.

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Response to gateley (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:02 PM

24. The media made it the story of the day......

and yes, I don't hope for anything better.

What I'd like to see is us (yes....us, not someone else) revolt against this
media assault by writing, phoning, texting and posting on the FB of those
media pundits pushing this bullshit.

But no....we won't do that.

Instead, we'll sit back and talk amongs each other as to who is to blame
to have allowed this to occur as it did, when the guilty party continues to
sell us the bullshit that they pulled out of their asses.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:29 PM

29. I do think plenty of us contact the media -- and TPTB also indicate that the media

isn't "news" any more.

But these corporations are there to make a profit -- they're legally mandated to do the best for their shareholders. So the OUTRAGE crap draws viewers, ups ratings, sells more advertising and generates revenue.

They don't care about our letters and comments. It's all about the money.

I think the only thing that COULD effect a change is if we all just turned off the TV, period. Sadly, not going to happen (I know I couldn't do it!

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Response to gateley (Reply #29)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:33 PM

30. My television is off.....most of the time.....

apart from watching Sharpton, Rachel and sometimes McDonnell,
so I'm doing what I can!

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:59 PM

35. I wish that I, and millions and millions of others, had the strength to do that. nt

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 01:48 PM

18. Even if she has been to the White House 35 times, what does it mean? Nothing!

It means shit.

Obama doesn't share the views of everyone who has been to the White House.

It's total bullshit.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:00 PM

37. I hear tell that John Boehner went to the White House too!

THAT MEANS OBAMA AGREES WITH HIM!!!!!!!

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:00 PM

23. Fuck Andrea Mitchell

 

The G.O.Pigs are trying to push the guilt by association thing, like they did with Bill Ayers. But, it won't work. This is a non-story. The republicans are trying to drag this out. They are beating a dead horse. Hillary Rosen already apologized, even though she didn't have to, because what she said was 100% true. I'm annoyed that democrats threw Hillary Rosen under the bus, too. BUT, I kind of understand why they may have done it. President Obama probably realized it was a distraction, and wanted to put the non-story to rest quickly, so they could get back to discussing the issues. I also wouldn't be surprised if the DNC made Hillary Rosen apologize, so that they could put this faux controversy to rest, and move on. Faux outrage caused by an out of context comment from someone most people have never heard of, will not help Mitt Romney fix a large gender gap against President Obama. This whole thing was nothing more than a distraction by the Romney campaign, because they are desperate, and are worried about the gender gap with woman, plus they got nothing else.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:26 PM

28. Going to the White House doesn't mean you represent the President or his campaign.

He doesn't have to take responsibility for what Rosen said. And what she said was no big deal, anyway. Blown out of proportion for the Republicans' benefit, aka business as usual.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:14 PM

43. +1! nt

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 02:51 PM

33. The Democrats had Rosen't back just like they did Shirley Sherrod's..

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #33)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:01 PM

39. Rosen was a PUMA and works for CNN.

Obama doesn't owe her any goddamn loyalty.

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:00 PM

36. Noonan's a Republican and Mitchell's a senile liar who sleeps with Alan fucking Greenspan.

Who cares what either of them think?

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:09 PM

41. Bay Buchanan was saying that last night

She tried to sow division by telling Hilary that their treatment of her was wrong. It's a manufactured controversy and I guess they know what they're doing, but my response would have been to tell Ann to shove it!

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Response to Amerigo Vespucci (Original post)

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 03:15 PM

44. To the White House or his home in Chicago?

If it's the White House, has anyone ask Mrs. Greenspan how many trips she's taken to the White House? Is she a spokesperson for the administration also?

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