4chan users threaten to leak nude photos of Emma Watson because of her speech

[Threedifferentones]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/09/22/emma_watson_attacked_after_un_speech_on_feminism_4chan_users_threaten_to.html?wpsrc=fol_fb

But, you know, none of the people who leak nude photos are doing it because they resent or even hate women...

[NuclearDem]

1. 4chan keeps up its reputation as the home of whiny petulant shits.

[el_bryanto]

2. To be fair

It's really hard to be petulant without whining.

Bryant

[dipsydoodle]

3. Exactly how nasty and low some poeple can get defeats me.

Fuck the lot them.

[seabeyond]

4. womens sexuality is used as a weapon against us. to shame, degrade and humiliate. that is all

that is going on here.

men have no other means of holding women down, putting them in their place. this is their last stand. and they are out in force. the degradation is happening on the net, the media, the entertainments.

it is all about shaming, degrading and humiliating

[gollygee]

5. So true, and all women get this

women get called "slut" or "prude," and both are ridiculous meaningless categories made up for no reason other than to try to control women through their sexuality. Any woman can be called either, and a woman can be called one and then called the other. They aren't about any kind of truth, only control.

[seabeyond]

7. they lose even on that. the celeb hacking was an example. many men promoted they had a right to

get off on the pictures, once they were stolen. or stated the obvious victim blaming that it was the womans fault for even taking the pictures. all the dots close together, giving us an easy picture of privilege, to see.

no consent there was no consent to turn these women into mens porn to use to get off on. no consent.

and the argument for men and their porn, is consent.

they fail, as decent progressive humans. and it was clear to all.

that pisses the men off. they want the right. they do not feel htey need the consent. they are privileged. they are entitled. no clearer evidence women do not count as a human being.

in self reflection, it pisses them off, and instead of learning and progressing they double down. to look more the creep.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

10. It's the hypocrisy of 4Chan's actions that strike me the most.

Presumably 4Chan is NOT arguing "Men don't need to be included in the conversation, we'll just dictate terms of your surrender." Presumably they are pro-feminist. Presumably, if you were to ask them on any given day, "Should women be free to speak their minds?" the answer would come back with a resounding, "Yes."

But this is a reprehensible act of what is little more than sexualized extortion to remain silent on a position they don't agree with and apparently aren't smart enough to properly comprehend.

If the debate is: Should outside parties be allowed to weigh-in on issues pertaining to a particular group? 4Chan has said "Maybe not all outside parties, and we'll be the reason why."

[seabeyond]

14. otoh, i have experienced this action over the last handful of years, repeatedly, consistently,

constantly. i can easily identify what you are saying. no surprise. and not just 4chan. it is a means men have been employing for a while now. and they do not take... fuck that shit, well.

hey you.....

[bigwillq]

6. Congrats on 1000 posts!

[AngryAmish]

8. In my experience, things posted on 4chan are almost always true

4chan is more or less like The New Yorker, but with more fact checkers and an impeccable reputation for honesty.

[Brickbat]

9. I'm sure she'll be shocked to learn she has breasts and a vulva.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

12. It's the, "Be compliant or be sexually humiliated" aspect that is the most reprehensible part. nt

[BlancheSplanchnik]

11. threats. shut up or else.

Our chief weapons against women are violence, fear, shame,...and an almost fanatical devotion to...our dicks.

[Skidmore]

13. What is this 4chan? I've never heard of it before.

[ancianita]

34. Two descriptions. Even THESE are probably 4chan-controlled. But it should give you some idea.

Late posting on this. Sorry.

A short clip: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=4chan

A longer one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan

[mythology]

36. 4chan is a discussion board

It's also the home of the dregs of the internet.

[Romulox]

15. I can't control 4chan... nt

[seabeyond]

16. but you do have a voice to speak out against them. nt

[Romulox]

17. Nope. I've never posted there, and I don't even know who "them" is... nt

[seabeyond]

18. you do not have a voice to address the issue with 4chan? you had enough of a voice to weigh in on

the subject, that they are separate and therefore we immune to any dissension on your part, per their actions.

[Romulox]

19. As is often the case, I don't understand your message. I have no special insight into 4chan.

You seem to know much more about it than I do. What are you doing to stop "them"???

[seabeyond]

20. redirecting the conversation where we as a whole are affected. what i see their role

is actually about so we recognize, acknowledge and then can address and resolve.

[Romulox]

21. So...nothing more than what I am doing. nt

[seabeyond]

22. you did nothing. you stood in the middle and stated you had nothing to say. no. not the same as you.

[The2ndWheel]

23. Yeah, not sure what anyone is supposed to do about it

Speak out about it? Ok. Then what? If a guy in a car honks at a random woman on the street and I'm walking in the same area and see it happen, do I try to run the car down to say he shouldn't do that? 4chan is an anonymous website. The people there are going to do what they do.

[seabeyond]

25. on a political progressive board do we just shrug our shoulders and bury our head in the sand?

some may challenge if we accomplish anything in conversation. i feel that conversation is the only way to understanding, recognizing a problem, educating ourselves to address and resolve.

this is no different.

and with every example of men, using womens sexuality to degrade, shame and humiliate, we have more and more people on our side in awareness. which is exactly what has happened over the last couple years, instilling a fear for so many that are lashing out now.

and they become more and more obvious. it cannot any longer be dismissed as just a few, but a cultural acceptance.

in that recognition, we then have people standing up and speaking out, saying.... not ok. then we create change.

[LisaLynne]

26. I agree.

I think pointing it out, someone -- anyone-- saying, "Hey, this is not ok -- we see what you are trying to do" DOES help. It moves us closer to change. Silence is seen as consent. We have to condemn things like this or it will never get better.

[seabeyond]

27. Silence is seen as consent.

i have felt this since i was so young. i remember at twelve, regardless of the fear, my need to speak out in racism.

[The2ndWheel]

30. Conversation about anything eventually only goes so far

At some point it's just going around in circles.

With something like 4chan, it's not even a workplace where you can make sexual harassment laws. Other than the authorities trying to arrest the guy that hacks a phone for the pictures, what is there to do about it? It's a pretty simple issue. There aren't a lot of variables involved. Acknowledging that it's wrong, and then...?

[seabeyond]

31. no. it does not go in circles. some like to try to make it so. another something i learned on du.

by listening. the efforts to take conversation in circles. i do not participate.

there is no circle for the terrorism 4 chan and others are committing toward women.

no a circle. not a swivel. they have reduced it to a very short, striaght, in our face, obvious line.

one sees.

and if one does not see?

i move on.

no circle for me.

[sufrommich]

24. So? Are we only supposed to discuss things we can control?

[LanternWaste]

28. I can't control ISIL...

I can't control ISIL... yet I'd consider myself a pretty self-absorbed individual if that's the best contribution I posses in regards to that organization

[Romulox]

33. This reminds me of confronting my Muslim neighbors about ISIS, actually.

Should I ask my neighbors to speak to ISIS?

[LanternWaste]

37. You may do what you wish...

"Should I ask my neighbors to speak to ISIS? "

You may do what you wish, as my permission is hardly required for any actions of petulance taken by others... regardless of how one minimizes and trivializes valid concerns.

[sharp_stick]

32. I'll alert the media

hopefully that stops the requests you've been receiving to stop 4chan activity Nationally.

[sharp_stick]

29. My guess is that if the asshole of the internet

that is 4chan actually had nude photos of Emma Watson they'd be all over the place by now.

That bunch of emotionally stunted fuckwits couldn't keep their glee at nakid pictures of Hermione to themselves for more than a second.

[ancianita]

38. With you on that.

[Recursion]

35. Not at all! It's a complete coincidence (nt)

[Wolf Frankula]

39. She Did a Nude Photo Shoot for the Book Natural Beauty

There are also thousands of fakes.

Wolf