Tonight, the GOP's wet dream comes true: bombing and killing in the name of fighting terrorism. nt

[kelliekat44]

[misterhighwasted]

1. And next week they will call for Obama's impeachment

for illegally bombing a soveriegn nation.
Expect the gop to use this to their advantage

[sabrina 1]

4. No, they will not do that. They may try to do it based on something else, but they would NEVER

use our 'eternal war' policies to do so. On that BOTH Parties are united. Sadly.

[grahamhgreen]

10. Disagree. They are giving him enough rope to hang himself.

[ballyhoo]

22. Yep.

[RobertEarl]

27. Impeachment is off the table

They made a backroom deal. Cheney is happy as a pig in you know what.

[grahamhgreen]

40. Maybe.... Link? Pelosi said it for reals... I can't imagine them not doing it!

[Sopkoviak]

2. And just who is making that dream come true?

You seem to be leaving someone out of the equation.

[Luminous Animal]

3. And tonight, a Democratic President is fulfilling the Republican's wet dream.

[sabrina 1]

5. Seems to be part of the deal in order to even be considered for the WH now. Everyone is on board

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with turning the US into an Empire. The old British Empire was falling apart and then the NEW and powerful US decided that they could be become the next Empire with the old Empire as an adviser and ally. The old Empire is either USING US power and money to continue their Colonial policies or we are using them, their Experience, to further our own Imperial ambitions or the New Empire is using the old Empire to further their colonial ambitions. Either way, democracy appears to be a thing of the past.

[DocMac]

24. Nothing on Rwanda, though.

I wonder why?

[sabrina 1]

45. Do you really have to ask why 'nothing on Rwanda'? Why 'nothing' on so many

other parts of the world where people are oppressed? Why nothing on a few of our Dictator Allies eg, like Bahrain and Saudi Arabia? Qatar, whose 'troops' have become our 'proxy boots on the ground'?

Are you seriously unaware of why we are in the ME? Do you really think it is for humanitarian reasons?

We CREATED much of the bloodshed and humanitarian crisis' there with our illegal and brutal invasion of Iraq more than a decade ago. Did you think THAT was to 'shut down Saddam's torture chambers' also?

How do you feel about the Bahrain Dictatorship's brutalization of its own people who simply want some freedom?

How do you feel about the Uzbekistan Dictator's torture and genocide against his own people? He too is one of our allies, nothing on THAT horrific situation either?

Seems to me people are very selective when they talk about 'humanitarianism'.

Did you know that the US support for all these dictators is what allows them to CONTINUE to brutalize their own people?

How about we stop funding and supporting Dictators and stop invading countries in the ME for a change?

The Brits have been doing this for eons and still nothing gets any better for the people there. We and the Brits have joined forces to continue those policies.

Do you really think that policies that have failed over and over again for decades, more than that, will eventually SUCCEED if we keep on doing what has failed for so long?

[Union Scribe]

6. They get the war and the chance to blame Obama for it.

It's win-win for them. Lose-lose for the rest of us.

[neverforget]

7. Plus they get another chance to gut programs for Americans in order to pay for the war.

Has anyone said how this war is going to be paid for?

[Sopkoviak]

8. Actually the President explained in his Sept. 10th speech

My fellow Americans, we live in a time of great change. Tomorrow marks 13 years since our country was attacked. Next week marks 6 years since our economy suffered its worst setback since the Great Depression. Yet despite these shocks; through the pain we have felt and the grueling work required to bounce back — America is better positioned today to seize the future than any other nation on Earth.

Our technology companies and universities are unmatched; our manufacturing and auto industries are thriving. Energy independence is closer than it's been in decades. For all the work that remains, our businesses are in the longest uninterrupted stretch of job creation in our history. Despite all the divisions and discord within our democracy, I see the grit and determination and common goodness of the American people every single day — and that makes me more confident than ever about our country's future.

And He added...

"May God bless our troops, and may God bless the United States of America."

So we got that on our side too.

Which is good.

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/10/347515100/transcript-president-obama-on-how-u-s-will-address-islamic-state

[neverforget]

9. Sorry but that doesn't explain where the money is going to come from in the budget

that's what I want to know.

[MattBaggins]

15. Pass the Dutchie on the left hand side

[golfguru]

18. With borrowed money from China

to protect oil supplies from middle-east to China.
With the money we owe them China can call the shots.
They are our masters now.

[Dreamer Tatum]

11. Nice try. There is exactly one person who made this happen. One. nt

[cstanleytech]

20. Nope there are alot who made it happen, the main one though is George W. Bush.

Without his asshattery as president Iraq would probably be fairly stable instead of the mess that its in.

[sabrina 1]

46. Bush didn't do it alone, he had plenty of support from both parties.

[cstanleytech]

47. Well doh, I already said that there were alot who helped make it happen in the post you replied to.

[sabrina 1]

48. Yes, you did. It can't be said often enough imo. But sorry about that should have mentioned

that you did mention it.

[oldandhappy]

12. Love your headline.

[Octafish]

13. Wars without end...

...mean Big Money that goes on and on.

[DocMac]

26. How many refugees do you need to see

before you get on board? Do I need to explain how horrible it is for those people?

I thought being liberal was a big part of empathy.

[Octafish]

42. This guy would understood your message, DocMac...

Human beings are not things, they are miracles.

[sabrina 1]

43. Did you want everyone on board since the US drove FOUR MILLION Iraqis

out of their country, maybe more by now, into JORDAN and SYRIA over the past ten years? WE are the reason for those millions of refugees.

Have you ever seen the Iraqi refugee camps WE are responsible for? And thanks to our HUMANITARIAN bombs and our WMDS and the financing of extremists in Syria, those millions of Iraq refugees are now subjected to even more violence?

Or do we only become concerned when they are useful to start even more war?

I have not heard a single elected official even mention that 4,000,000 people who lost everything thanks to our bombs. Not once.

Now we are supposed to believe that refugees matter to them?

Sorry, this is all about the West's 'interests' in the ME as it has been for decades. If there was no oil in that part of the world, no one would ever have heard of the ME.

[Iliyah]

14. Nopes they are not united.

[Iliyah]

16. Vote for what you believe in

vote.

[golfguru]

17. Right, and who is the enable of their wet dreams?

[totodeinhere]

19. Except that some in the GOP like Rand Paul are not on board.

And then there are the super hawks like McCain who want American troops to go in there with guns blazing.

[SoapBox]

21. GOPukers love that killing!

WTF is up with that?

And...better cut taxes 'cause this is going to cost us a few million trillion!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. A bipartisan coalition for more killing.

[golfguru]

25. When they cut necks of journalists with dirty blunt knives,

ISIS was asking for punishment from president Obama.

[DocMac]

29. And that doesn't even get

close to what they are doing to women! Those bastards need to see what a real war looks like.

[golfguru]

35. True! ISIS is practicing barbarism of the 7th century

They deserve to be bombed into smithereens.

[DocMac]

36. I agree, and I despise war.

I can't seem to get past our inaction on Rwanda!! And now we have all these people fleeing violence.

To me, it seems like we are doing the right thing, if we have any moral high ground left.

[former9thward]

28. And I thought Obama was a Democrat...

Learn something everyday on DU.

[DocMac]

30. Indeed!

Edit to say that you and I voted for that man, unless you prefer Robme!

What part of saving people from fucked up shit escapes you?

[DocMac]

31. Here ya go....

[flamingdem]

32. Nah. Obama is not Bush

He got this coalition together and we'll see but it's a response to a problem. That's different from yellow cake.

[delrem]

38. That, flamingdem, is bullshit.

For what purpose, I dunno, but purest bullshit.

[delrem]

33. Yep, it's a PNAC splooge fest, I'm almost afraid to say.

[Schmice2]

34. This is a trap. Can't they see it?

[DocMac]

37. Do you have some special info?

You must be a four star general. Welcome to DU!!

[freshwest]

39. Yes, I think he does have military experience:

[Cha]

41. Killing Daesh.. the can of worms that they opened.. Fuck the gop and their "wet dreams".. Bernie,

Elizabeth, and Jimmy Carter are on board with this..

They Support attacking ISIS with Airstrikes.. Jimmy Carter, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren all well respected leaders, have access and know a hellava lot more about this than those on the internet who can't grasp this isn't being run by the bush-cheney neocon crowd.

"I think we need to attack ISIS. I'm really concerned about them."

"Is the bombing of ISIS justified? I say yes. And I hope President Obama has every possible success in getting allies to join with us, some with ground troops effected inside Syria."

FrodosPet http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5566788

Bernie stands with the President on this "Enormously complicated issue".. as he calls it. He disagrees with staying out of ISIS like some around are clamoring on about.

As he stated it's an "International effort" and guess what.. "they have to put money in it too."

Hartman and he talked about one republiCon saying.. they'll "blast him if it doesn't work and ask why he didn't do it sooner if it does." Sounds like a familiar whine.

Senators Warren and Sanders are on board with the President..

FrodosPet http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5527989

Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she supports President Obama's decision to authorize airstrikes in Iraq

BOSTON — Warning against a new U.S. war in Iraq, U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren on Friday stood by President Barack Obama’s decision to authorize targeted airstrikes to help defend Americans in Erbil, Iraq, and provide aid to a religious minority taking refuge in the Sinjar mountains.

“It’s a complicated situation right now in Iraq and the president has taken very targeted actions to provide humanitarian relief that the Iraqi government requested, and to protect American citizens,” Warren told reporters. “But like the president I believe that any solution in Iraq is going to be a negotiated solution, not a military solution. We do not want to be pulled into another war in Iraq.”


Senator Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., said she supports president Barack Obama's decision to authorize new airstrikes in Iraq but cautioned against U.S. involvement in a new war in the Middle East.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/08/sen_elizabeth_warren_warns_abo.html

[Vinca]

44. It's a "win win" for the GOP.

Whether it's successful or not, they've got more impeachment fodder since war wasn't authorized in Congress. If it's successful they will say, "I told you so. Obama should have done it sooner." If it fails they say, "Obama. Failure. What did you expect?" Meanwhile, they're at home watching their war machine stocks soar and jerking off as the bombs strike innocent civilians.