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Look- I want to get rid of McConnell as much as anyone, but really----
A true DINO candidate - Procoal, anti-Obama, kissing voter ass. Guess that's how it's done.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Would love to see McConnell lose but she really hasn't been very impressive.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)We need more Dems in Congress and need to put aside our quest for perfection, sometimes.
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I like the guns part, not fond of the coal part but I know that in Kentucky you dare not speak to ending coal, even when you have a plan to retrain the workforce toward sustainable resources.
One simply can't do that while running.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)Lifelong Kentuckian here; I hope she does whatever she needs to in order to beat McConnell.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Because at the end of the day, a Democratic majority in the Senate is all that matters.
Kentuckians share a great many liberal wants and needs with Liberals across the nation, just as other working Americans who vote Republican. The problem is, RW propaganda outlets posing as our fourth estate and hateful baptist conservative ministers, have bamboozled the majority of Kentuckians, making them think they don't.
Lundergan-Grimes is doing her damnedest to unseat a corporate Republican whose only interest is enriching himself at the expense of working Kentuckians since he hasn't done diddly for them in decades! Now he even wants to take Kynect away from the poor and low income households there. Lundergan-Grimes won't allow that if she becomes the junior senator of Kentucky and Democrats hold the majority in the Senate.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)I live in a rural area, I have always voted Democratic and will always vote Democratic. I see no reason why we can not have reasonable restrictions to gun ownership.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)The extreme anti-gun portion of the party is a minority and only viable in cities. I dislike her running against the President, BUT, he isn't up for election. If it helps us keep the Senate, then I'm good with it.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)That number is becoming less every day due to demographic shifts. Still, not all gun owners are Rethugs.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)4/10 Democratic voters who may like that commercial? I think it is good she wants to hold onto the 4/10. Lose them and good luck winning an election.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)I do not see what is wrong with it. At the same time I am pointing out a fact that the gun vote swings to the right and will become more so over the next two decades.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Like this guy.
kentuck
(111,092 posts)The only reason Mitch McConnell is ahead in most of the polls is because of coal and the NRA. In my humble opinion, Alison is only doing what her opponent is doing in an effort to win the election. After all, she has had not only Bill Clinton come to Kentucky to campaign with her but, also, Elizabeth Warren. The issues that she is running on, raising the minimum wage, equal pay for women, preserving Social Security and Medicare, stopping corporations from shipping jobs overseas, are all bedrock Democratic issues. This ad is only for counter purposes to the hypocrisy that Mitch McConnell is trying to pull on the voters of Kentucky.
Do we want a "perfect" loser or do we want to get rid of Mitch McConnell?
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Remember the Karl Rove Playbook: Turn the opponent's strength into a weakness. We can, and should, do that too.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)kentuck
(111,092 posts)McConnell is the hypocrite. She is exposing him as a fraud. These are not the issues she is running on.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Is it safe to assume that she wants stricter gun control laws, more taxes and regulation on coal, and more EPA regulations than Obama? If so, I certainly misunderstood her ad when she said, "I'm not Obama".
kentuck
(111,092 posts)if she were in the US Senate. Mitch McConnell, in almost every ad, is trying to tie her to Barack Obama. Whether we like it or not, she has to put distance between herself and the President if she wants to challenge McConnell for the US Senate. These are not the primary issues that she is running on. She is not so easily defined.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)She, apparently, is defining what McConnell positions are, what are hers on the same issues. Progressive or conservative?
kentuck
(111,092 posts)If she votes for the minimum wage, for women issues, for preserving Social Security and Medicare, for stopping jobs from being sent overseas, then I guess we will have to weigh whether or not "skeet" shooting makes her as bad as Mitch McConnell?
Personally, if her vote is the deciding vote on any of the issues above, I think she would do the right thing and vote in the best interest of the nation. Just my opinion.
IronGate
(2,186 posts)it's Kentucky where coal, guns, religion is huge.
I'm glad she's exposing McTurtle for the fraud he is, this is a good strategy for her.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)They've created a truly outstanding ad that exposes her opponent for the fraud that he really is.
I really like the fact that she's taking the fight to him. She's not backing down or playing nice. She's hitting him where it hurts.
From what I understand, this is a 6-figure ad buy. I think it is $$$ well-spent and may push some who were on the fence into her corner.
kentuck
(111,092 posts)that this ad is for those that might be on the fence.
Anything Mitch can do, Alison can do better!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Lots of Democrats own guns.
elleng
(130,895 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)But it does look like a way to kick out a reviled incumbent
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:34 PM - Edit history (1)
is local politics. Unless you live in Kentucky, you don't get a say on how she runs her race. I'd think her people know better than any of us what she needs to do to win.
In these United States, there are states that will ONLY elect a Blue Dog Dem. I suspect Kentucky is one of those states.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)That's the job.
Township75
(3,535 posts)Senator. People are different across the country and that is what makes up thhe Democratic Party. So it is no surprise we see that reflected in our candidates. This is part of a democratic system.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)healthcare, crickets.
Also, way to alienate the black vote. In a close election, who needs minority voters.
BeyondGeography
(39,371 posts)When her numbers went down, many here screamed it's because she's not a true progressive. Which is what they always do. I wonder what would happen to her numbers if she took their advice...