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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 03:53 PM Sep 2014

1 in 5 U.S. Women Raped During Their Lifetimes, CDC Reports

One in 5 U.S. women have been raped in their lifetimes, a new report from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention has found.

Additionally, 43.9 percent of women reported experiencing some sort of sexual violence during their lifetimes. The overall numbers for men are much lower, with 1.7 percent reporting they have been raped and 23.4 percent saying they experienced forms of sexual violence during their lifetimes.

The report, looking at sexual violence, stalking and intimate partner violence are the results of a phone survey completed in 2011.

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/1-5-u-s-women-raped-during-their-lifetimes-cdc-n198496

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1 in 5 U.S. Women Raped During Their Lifetimes, CDC Reports (Original Post) joeybee12 Sep 2014 OP
Kick for visibility. nt TBF Sep 2014 #1
Good Lord shenmue Sep 2014 #2
How long before we get the "those numbers aren't right" crew in here justiceischeap Sep 2014 #3
It sounds like a crock to me. badtoworse Sep 2014 #4
That didn't take long at all. justiceischeap Sep 2014 #6
Why the Gun Group? badtoworse Sep 2014 #7
You forgot this... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #9
Prove it. Show how this study is wrong. I'm waiting. alp227 Sep 2014 #14
Do you have evidence that disproves the the statistics? chrisa Sep 2014 #17
According to the NCVS lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #21
Because why? Hissyspit Sep 2014 #25
Because I believe the CDC has an agenda badtoworse Sep 2014 #29
Thought it might be something like that. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #30
It's about intellectual dishonesty. I know it when I see it. badtoworse Sep 2014 #31
Me, too. Hissyspit Sep 2014 #32
chicken dinnah! Raster Sep 2014 #35
Oh, shush. Manly Men just can't help themselves and the women asked for it. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #5
Kicking Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #8
One may think that the transgressors in these instances rationalize their actions by saying to the LanternWaste Sep 2014 #10
Here's an interesting passage from the report. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #11
If you add up the three categories, that's 78.4% of women vs. 30.8% of men as victims. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #18
According to the study linked by the OP... lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #22
that figure seems low marions ghost Sep 2014 #12
The figure had been 1 in 3 women, which is probably the accurate figure. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #13
That is fucking horrid. blackspade Sep 2014 #15
I think 1 in 5 is too low LittleGirl Sep 2014 #16
Sorry to hear that. I have two wonderful, beautiful daughters and my biggest fear is of Dustlawyer Sep 2014 #23
K & R for exposure. nt SunSeeker Sep 2014 #19
I believe that the real numbers are higher than that. NealK Sep 2014 #20
My guess is these numbers are low. mythology Sep 2014 #24
Thank you joeybee12 lovemydog Sep 2014 #26
"During Their Lifetimes" jberryhill Sep 2014 #27
Because 10 percent of all women are sexually abused before they turn 20. KitSileya Sep 2014 #33
Ah, okay.... jberryhill Sep 2014 #34
That number is low. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #28

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
6. That didn't take long at all.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:09 PM
Sep 2014

Are you claiming the women (and men) who responded to the poll are liars or that the numbers aren't actually high enough? I could see saying the numbers aren't high enough but if you're proclaiming they're too high, then you need to go back to the Gun group.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
14. Prove it. Show how this study is wrong. I'm waiting.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:19 PM
Sep 2014

C'mon. Bring the evidence forward buddy. C'mon.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
21. According to the NCVS
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:25 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=nvat

The 2012 rape and sexual assault victimization rate for women is 1.6 compared to 1.0 for men. That's 1.6 women per 1000 responded to the anonymous survey that they had been raped in the previous 12 months, or 0.16% per year.

Therefore, the upper estimate from the Justice Department would be 12.8%, assuming that no women are victimized in more than one year, and that women live to be 80 on average.

Disproof? No, but it is accurate to say that estimates differ.
 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
29. Because I believe the CDC has an agenda
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 07:55 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Tue Sep 9, 2014, 08:31 AM - Edit history (1)

They include gang violence in the gun death statistics for children. Do you think it might be to inflate the numbers? For all I know, they might be including "stare rapes" in the sexual violence numbers. Sorry, but I'm skeptical when the CDC reports numbers.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
5. Oh, shush. Manly Men just can't help themselves and the women asked for it.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:09 PM
Sep 2014

I mean, if girls wear girlie clothes what's a real man to do???

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. One may think that the transgressors in these instances rationalize their actions by saying to the
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:26 PM
Sep 2014

One may think that the transgressors in these instances rationalize their actions by saying to themselves (and only to themselves, as others recognize it for the crap it indeed, is) "I need sex. It's not a choice... it's a necessity of life", and go on from that to abuse far too many women...

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
11. Here's an interesting passage from the report.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:27 PM
Sep 2014
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6308a1.htm?s_cid=ss6308a1_e#Table1

Results: In the United States, an estimated 19.3% of women and 1.7% of men have been raped during their lifetimes; an estimated 1.6% of women reported that they were raped in the 12 months preceding the survey. The case count for men reporting rape in the preceding 12 months was too small to produce a statistically reliable prevalence estimate. An estimated 43.9% of women and 23.4% of men experienced other forms of sexual violence during their lifetimes, including being made to penetrate, sexual coercion, unwanted sexual contact, and noncontact unwanted sexual experiences. The percentages of women and men who experienced these other forms of sexual violence victimization in the 12 months preceding the survey were an estimated 5.5% and 5.1%, respectively.
An estimated 15.2% of women and 5.7% of men have been a victim of stalking during their lifetimes. An estimated 4.2% of women and 2.1% of men were stalked in the 12 months preceding the survey.
With respect to sexual violence and stalking, female victims reported predominantly male perpetrators, whereas for male victims, the sex of the perpetrator varied by the specific form of violence examined. Male rape victims predominantly had male perpetrators, but other forms of sexual violence experienced by men were either perpetrated predominantly by women (i.e., being made to penetrate and sexual coercion) or split more evenly among male and female perpetrators (i.e., unwanted sexual contact and noncontact unwanted sexual experiences). In addition, male stalking victims also reported a more even mix of males and females who had perpetrated stalking against them.


Catch that? "Being made to penetrate" is not rape; it's "another form" of sexual violence. For example, if Alexandra Romanos' 13 year old alleged victim had been questioned by the study authors, his response would have fallen into the "other form of sexual violence" category.

So when it says that 1.7% of men report having been raped, this is almost exclusively the subset of men who have been raped (as the term is conventionally understood) by other men. When you add 1.7% to 23.4%, you can see that the problem is not exclusive to women. This is clarified by the finding that 5.5% of women and 5.1% of men have experienced violent sexual victimization in the last 12 months.

More needs to be done to support sexual assault victims, and men and boys are the largest unserved constituency.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
18. If you add up the three categories, that's 78.4% of women vs. 30.8% of men as victims.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:54 PM
Sep 2014

How can you say men and boys are "the largest under served constituency"?

What percentage of men are raped (forced to penetrate) by women?

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
22. According to the study linked by the OP...
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:36 PM
Sep 2014

6.7% of men have been forced to penetrate (7.6 million men and boys). The report does not specify what proportion of the perpetrators are women except to say "most".

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
12. that figure seems low
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 04:37 PM
Sep 2014

....I'd say it's more like 25% at least.

I think it's safe to say that just about everybody knows someone who was raped, and then there are those victims who never tell anyone...

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
15. That is fucking horrid.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 06:46 PM
Sep 2014

MEN need to get themselves under control.
These stats are terrible and probably low.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
23. Sorry to hear that. I have two wonderful, beautiful daughters and my biggest fear is of
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 07:43 PM
Sep 2014

someone raping or molesting them. We are very close, but who could say for sure they would tell me. I would hate to have them go through it alone, but they know by my constant warnings to be aware of their surroundings and exercise good judgement that I worry.
It shouldn't have to be this way at all! I was a teenage, young adult, middle aged man and "No" means "NO!!!!" I remember how horny an 18 year old can be, but you still know right from wrong. As to the child molesters and serial rapists, more would be caught if there was a much more caring and understanding process to help these victims feel safe and to receive counseling, more would be reported. As it stands, there are areas in the country with serious backlogs in testing the rape kits. I am sure many victims feel, "Why bother?"

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
24. My guess is these numbers are low.
Mon Sep 8, 2014, 08:53 PM
Sep 2014

Saying to a stranger, even over the phone, that you were raped or otherwise sexually victimized would be incredibly difficult.

I would assume the unreported numbers for men would be higher given our societal understanding that men "can't" be raped.

But either way the numbers are way too high for both genders.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
33. Because 10 percent of all women are sexually abused before they turn 20.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 10:53 AM
Sep 2014

That's the numbers the UN came up with recently. 10% of all the girls in the world are sexually abused before they turn 20. Contemplate that number, and then turn around and wonder what world women live in, where we know perfectly well that we are putting our very selves at risk just trying to live our lives - walking in our cities, living with our families, going to work, socializing. All these things puts us at a high risk of being sexually abused.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
34. Ah, okay....
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 11:54 AM
Sep 2014

I was getting a weird meaning out of that, since it is hard to be the victim of anything at some point other than during one's lifetime.
 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
28. That number is low.
Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:51 AM
Sep 2014

I think a lot of women don't even know about the concept of "date rape".

when i was young in the 70s we didn't have terms like "Date rape" and "sexual harassment". I thought it was "crap men do to women" and didn't have a name. Also rape and sexual assault are underreported. Even if it is reported, oftentimes prosecutors refuse to bring evidence to a grand jury in order to protect the men, and then the victim can do nothing to change the prosecutor's mind.

The good ole boys must be protected at all costs. The victims don't matter.

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