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(20,582 posts)He was amazing.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)He flew B-25's...
But he was a badassed boxer on ship.
And he loved watching two boxers after the wars...
Ali.. and Teófilo Stevenson from Cuba.
He thought that that would be a true bout, between true boxers.
The Cold War screwed that up.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I had to look up Ali and Teófilo Stevenson - he would have had to defect from Cuba? That's too bad. I actually hate seeing people get hurt boxing and know the long-term effects, but understand what a thrill it must have been for those whose lives revolved around it. Who do you think would have won?
WillyT
(72,631 posts)He just admired the footwork, the puches thrown, etc...
And was sad that it would never come to be.
I think they both won medals in the Olympics... but would never meet professionally.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)It was too bad he couldn't be in the big fights.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I really think he would have made a fortune in the pros.
Wasn't his amateur career finally derailed by a drunken driving incident?
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)No, he wasn 't involved in a drunken driving accident. He did get into trouble for head-butting an airline employee at Miami International Airport. He died of a heart attack.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)I'm not sure where I got the drunken driving thing. Most of my boxing info back in olden times came from Sports Illustrated, so I'm not sure who I was thinking of.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)I wasn't sure either.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)but I would bet the farm that Ali would have cleaned Stevenson's clock. Stevenson was great, but in my opinion, no other heavyweight came close to Ali in his prime. I'm not convinced that we ever even saw Ali at his best since he was sidelined for five years when he refused to be inducted into the Army.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I had a bit of a teenaged crush on him
polly7
(20,582 posts)NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)First round, first minute. My wife picked it up somewhere because she knows what an Ali fan I am.
LloydS of New London
(355 posts)malaise
(269,174 posts)at the US Open. I saw something I liked and decided to do some research on him.
The kid - Jared Donaldson- was born in Rhode Island and his
'Idols growing up were Muhammad Ali (boxing) and Bill Russell (basketball)'.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Do/J/Jared-Donaldson.aspx
I found his idols really 'interesting' for a 17 year old white kid.
Journeyman
(15,040 posts)the television was on and the coverage of Sinatra was non-stop. There were maybe half a dozen or more guys sitting around watching the tube, waiting for our cars.
In the midst of it all, one of the well-coiffed talking heads said,
"You know, Sinatra -- he's the only person in the world, you just say his name and everyone knows exactly who he is."
Television dweeb paused for a breath, and in the silence of the room I muttered two words:
"Muhammad Ali."
Every guy there just nodded his head. I could said that name in Zaire, in Belgium, the Ukraine, or Outer Mongolia, and gotten the same recognition. I don't believe Ol' Blue Eyes would have ever had half the recognition the Greatest has enjoyed.