I'm supposed to believe an unarmed man fleeing for his life as an armed man shoots at him

[mmonk]

suddenly turned around and ran towards the man with a gun trying to kill him? Yeah, right. A billion or more to one that is what happened. Have a sane day.

[conservaphobe]

1. Someone with a badge said it was so.

Who are you to question that, civilian?

[n2doc]

5. Did they even say that?

Or was it some anonymous or self-identified 'friend' who wait that? Because I haven't seen an official report on the incident that contains anything but blank spaces.

Not criticizing your post. I just feel like the actual verifiable facts are pretty slim right now, and the ones that we can be certain of aren't flattering to the cop.

[atreides1]

7. When you can find an "official report"

Let us know! Because the one released by the Ferguson PD was so redacted that any useful information was blacked out...and the report released by St Louis County PD wasn't any better...you could put more information on the back of a postage stamp!

[DrewFlorida]

16. At this time there have been no details released by the Ferguson police regarding the.....

Incident report. The lack of incident details is a violation of the "Missouri Sunshine Law"


http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-releases-incomplete-police-report-on-death-of-michael-brown-221844542.html

[conservaphobe]

8. Josie claimed to be a friend of the wife, repeating the story Wilson told his wife.

But that hasn't been verified.

Not sure about anything else.

There's a LOT of misinformation out there regarding the cop's side of the story.

The only consistency has been on the side of those who witnessed Brown's death.

[n2doc]

9. So basically it is based on the word of an self-identified person

Absolutely no credibility whatsoever then. I could make up a story about how Rand Paul was in the area and shot Brown, which would be just as credible.

[conservaphobe]

10. Exactly. nt

[NYC_SKP]

26. No. AFAIK "Josie" is a pseudonym, she called in to a radio show, didn't share her real name.

Agree, no credibility, but I wouldn't call her self-identified.

Here’s the transcript:

“He pulled up ahead of them. And then he got a call-in that there was a strong-arm robbery. And, they gave a description. And, he’s looking at them and they got something in their hands and it looks like it could be what, you know those cigars or whatever. So he goes in reverse back to them. Tries to get out of his car. They slam his door shut violently. I think he said Michael did. And, then he opened the car again. He tried to get out. He stands up.

And then Michael just bum-rushes him and shoves him back into his car. Punches him in the face and them Darren grabs for his gun. Michael grabbed for the gun. At one point he got the gun entirely turned against his hip. And he shoves it away. And the gun goes off.

Well, then Michael takes off and gets to be about 35 feet away. And, Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something.”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/exclusive-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-speaks-out-on-shooting-of-mike-brown-audio/

The video is longer than the above excerpt. Here you go:

[n2doc]

31. What I meant was, she said she had first hand knowledge

But provided no actual proof. You are correct, even her name is probably made up.

[NYC_SKP]

34. Worse, she's relating what was told to her by Wilson's "significant other".

It doesn't even qualify as hearsay, it's more like "someone told me that someone told them...".

Of course, all of this has been taken as fact by the press.

Further, the media still tells of a "strong arm robbery", but the video evidence suggests that Mike paid for his Cigarillos.

In this longer video, you see the same thing- it appears that he had grabbed more than he could afford, hands some to his friend and then pays for what he can, might even have dropped some change.

The apparent exchange with the smaller older gentleman at the door is unexplained, but I'm unconvinced that anything was stolen here.

[BlueCaliDem]

2. The Brotherhood in Blue say so.

And we know they never lie, don't we?

[justiceischeap]

3. This has been my problem with that narrative the entire time

However, here's what I think happened... Brown was running for his life, then decides to stop and turn around, throwing his hands in the air. Wilson, perceived and later convinced himself that Brown wasn't surrendering but rushing him. That said, doesn't the "bum rush" bit come from the now debunked "Josie" story?

[truedelphi]

13. I think his hands were already in the air, but the force of the first two

Bullets caused his body to spin around.

Of course, what matters in the end is that he is dead, and poor people and people of color get to see who their real friends were.

[jwirr]

4. Instinct alone would make you run away from danger. To turn around and hold up his arms in surrender

took courage. And to run toward the cop would have been suicide. I do not believe he was running toward the cop.

[Solomon]

6. Anything works when its a black man involved

Not only did he charge the officer, but before that he tried to get into the police car and arrest himself.

Don't forget. They claimed Trayvon did the same thing. After running for his life he decided to double back and ambush Zimmerman.

[mmonk]

11. Yep.

[mmonk]

12. Sorry I had to post this.

But I think in logic. Certainly not in fear or racial stereotypes. And to tell you the truth, I'm tired. I'm at a point where I think this country is useless in the 21st century and we all have to endure it's ignorance, racism, and the rise of 1% rule. But I decided I'm not going to sit on my ass. I'll offer my services to a movement for change. Silent no more. There are no more chances.

[LiberalArkie]

14. If this world is to survive (in more ways than one), someone needs to blast this

country to kingdom come.

[LiberalAndProud]

17. wow

Someone needs to what?

Although I wonder if it's true that we will reap what we have sown ...

wow.

[Codeine]

20. Someone needs to what now?

That's silliness.

[heaven05]

22. too strong, so far, militarily

yet I agree the problems of racism and bigotry of all sorts, from everyone, along with the sanctioned killing going on continuously in the streets of amerikkka has to be addressed and solved by the people who have america and it's citizens best interest in mind. Not the wilson crowd, not the zimmerman crowd but decent, fair and impartial human beings from all walks of life, not limbaugh and fux news robots. We must start a movement to bring people together to end this insanity.

[Rex]

25. And then what? I have news for you, the world will survive with us or without us

and that is not just America...the world doesn't need us or anything else to survive. So sick of people pretending the world is going to end, just because of humans.

Not even close.

[LiberalArkie]

27. That is what I was trying to say.

It used to be that we were kind of the moral compass in the world, not so much any more.

I look at Iraq, they would have been a lot better if the good ol USA did not exist, think about Palestine. Really any where. I think if the gold ol U.S.A. wasn't around, the world would have probably settled down to a nice stable place.

Just a rant from someone who is just pissed off at all the pain and suffering that this one country has caused.

[Rex]

28. Sorry was a little snarky.

Just seems people think we are the end all, be all of everything.

So far in geological time, we are merely a fart in the wind of the world.

[TheKentuckian]

32. Humans are capable of sterilizing this planet, creating a Venus effect, snowballing the globe,

mass extinctions, and any number of life and even planet threatening debacles and pretending otherwise is the same vein as the climate deniers. We are a danger well beyond ourselves.

[Rex]

33. And in a few million-billion years something else will rise up to claim dominance.

We are a mere fart in geological time, to pretend we can destroy the earth is poppycock. Oh sure WE can destroy OURSELVES...and some pretend that is all there is to it. AS IF the universe is going to stop when we stop existing.

The earth is billions of years old...nothing is going to destroy the planet, but we most assuredly can destroy THIS biosphere. The one we depend on for all life as we know it.

[TheKentuckian]

36. The sun will go red giant and die it's self well before a million billion years.

I notice now you have left Earth and expanded to the universe and yes that is beyond or reach or reckoning but with a concerted effort I bet we could take out the sun and yes we could sterilize this little blue marble to the point that no complex organism could evolve before Earth is no longer in the habitable zone and might be consumed by Sol.

[Rex]

37. I meant a million to a billion.

We still have eons left...no need to panic just yet well MAYBE we could cause the planet to become a tundra or a barren planet, I guess I should not underestimate our ability to fuck up a good thing.

For all that I read, it is already too late...and I keep seeing that data ignored year after year after year. All kinds of excuses made, year after year...I guess I've grown jaded toward hope and prosperity.

I just don't see it, we seem to be stuck on greed mode.

[stevenleser]

15. Just like the African American guy handcuffed with his hands behind his back shot himself in the

chest.

yessirree

[mainstreetonce]

18. They claim Brown reached for the gun?

The only way that could have happened is if the officer had the gun already drawn when he backed up the car.

Are we supposed to believe the kid reached into the window and tried to grab a holstered gun?

[heaven05]

23. why yes, yes we are

[Enthusiast]

19. Kicked and recommended!

Hey, mmonk, it's total bullshit.

[L0oniX]

21. Magic pig guns that attract humans like magnets.

[heaven05]

24. You can't believe that?

I'm surprised!!!!

[951-Riverside]

29. Even if he ran away and never turned back, their badge says he's fair game and subject to execution.

Even if he had his hands up...

Police officers can legally kill you for anything or nothing at all.

[NYC_SKP]

30. I'm convinced, from a couple of eye-witness descriptions, of a few things:

Mike and friend were walking in the street, not on the sidewalk. A lot of us do that, usually it's not a problem.

Wilson stopped and shouted out an order, then drove on.

Mike and friend didn't go to the sidewalk, Wilson stopped his SUV and quickly went back to the young men, tires squealing.

Some conversation was had at the door between the men and Wilson.

I believe that physical contact occurred between Brown and Wilson through the vehicle's window, and I further believe that Wilson violently pushed the door open into Mike Brown in anger.

I think the door came back and bonked Wilson in the head and that set him off.

The men wanted to get away from Wilson, Wilson fired several shots at Brown, some missed.

One or more shots hit Brown and he stopped, turned around, hands up, and might even have taken a few steps in the direction of Wilson.

Wilson, now even crazier than usual, chose to react by emptying his magazine into Brown, including a fatal shot to the head.

And then all the local agencies went into coverup mode.

They are still in that mode.

[Rex]

35. Not you...the M$M is sending that message out more to racists then anyone else.

And of course they are lapping it up like good dogs.