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bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:12 PM Aug 2014

There are all manner of debilitating medical conditions.

Some anatomical conditions can not only be physically debilitating, but can also bring about bouts of depression. I myself suffer from several severely damaged discs in my lower back. Over the years I have learned coping mechanisms to be able to function in a relatively normal fashion, but the pain is never truly gone, and sometimes an activity will flare up the injury and leave me immobile for a period of time. Major surgery (fusion) would likely reduce the instance of painful episodes, but there are no guarantees, and it would also greatly reduce my mobility. I have suffered some degree of depression due to this injury over the years, and while it was profoundly unpleasant, it was only as long lived as the intensity of the back pain.

Depression as a disorder causes a persistent feeling of sadness and loss of interest, it affects how one feels, thinks and behaves and can lead to a variety of emotional and physical problems. One may have trouble doing normal day-to-day activities, and depression may make one feel as if life isn't worth living. Depression isn't a weakness, nor is it something that one can simply "shake" off. Depression may require long-term treatment, and many people with depression feel better with medication, psychological counseling or both, but as with any medical condition, and especially one involving the complex organ that is the human brain, there are no guarantees.

I have known several people in my life that suffered from major depression and succumbed to the debilitating effects of the disorder by their own hand. With all of them I was devastated by the loss and saddened by the futility, but in each case I knew the pain and suffering they endured and understood their action. Not to say that I agreed with their choice, or condone or endorse it, but I did understand it.

Someday medical science may be closer to 100% effective in treating depression, but until that day there will be people that are unsuccessful in their attempts to manage their condition and choose to end their lives. I will mourn them, but I will never criticize them.

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There are all manner of debilitating medical conditions. (Original Post) bluesbassman Aug 2014 OP
One of the biggest problems is the stigma steve2470 Aug 2014 #1
Absolutely. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #3
Thanks very much for this post. freshwest Aug 2014 #5
I've had back pain, and it drives you batty steve2470 Aug 2014 #7
Also keep in mind they may not know what "normal" is. jeff47 Aug 2014 #10
I'm actually thankful to be a garden variety depressive Warpy Aug 2014 #2
... bluesbassman Aug 2014 #4
.... steve2470 Aug 2014 #8
Williams' death was part of the fatality incidence of the disease BainsBane Aug 2014 #6
Mr. Redwitch has two herniated discs. redwitch Aug 2014 #9
Thanks redwitch. I'm glad he's getting some relief. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #13
And we should not forget that persons with depression or bipolar do not live in a vaccum. We watch jwirr Aug 2014 #11
From someone who suffered with clinical depression upaloopa Aug 2014 #12
Thanks upaloopa. bluesbassman Aug 2014 #14

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
1. One of the biggest problems is the stigma
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:17 PM
Aug 2014

With many illnesses, you can talk about it and not be looked upon as a "whiner" or "weak". The stigma causes depression sufferers to hide it, to not talk about it, to not reach out for help, to try to tough it out or self-medicate. When all that doesn't work, then the ultimate option is sometimes used, sadly.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
3. Absolutely.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:26 PM
Aug 2014

A person with a depression disorder is no more "weak" when they are in the throes of their condition than is someone who can't function due to back pain flare-ups. Yet neither of these individuals have "outward symptoms" and those that have never experienced anything like it can sometimes have trouble relating.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
10. Also keep in mind they may not know what "normal" is.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:09 PM
Aug 2014

Often, people with depression are suffering a life-long mental illness. They really haven't experienced "normal".

My parents and older relatives say I started out as a happy kid, but at one point something went "click" and I was no longer a happy kid. I was way too young to remember, so I can't give them much of a clue about what happened. If I had to guess, it was because I was "the fat kid" in school, and the abuse may have just gotten to me at some point.

As a result, I really didn't have an understanding of what "normal" was in my teen or later years. I'd always been depressed, so I didn't know I was depressed. And looking back, a lot of the positive parts of my life were dealing with that depression - the drama teacher loved me and my acting ability. I was good at it because I spent 24/7/365 acting like I thought a kid was supposed to act.

As a result, it was my mid-20s before I finally got some mental health care and dealt with my problems. It took so long because I didn't know what "normal" was, and was good enough at acting that people around me didn't know what was going on in my head.

Warpy

(111,327 posts)
2. I'm actually thankful to be a garden variety depressive
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:23 PM
Aug 2014

because I come from a family of bipolars. Most of them self medicate with alcohol for a while--and it works for a while--before they get into treatment. A few end up bipolar alcoholics and die from the alcohol. I understand the pain of depression. I'm still here because my own depression is nearly paralyzing, I just don't have the energy to stick my head in the oven.

Bipolars on the way up or (worse) on the way down do have the energy. I know the pain and I can understand being afraid of it. I can't criticize anyone who just can't take it any more. It is just so damned hard on all the people they leave behind.



BainsBane

(53,053 posts)
6. Williams' death was part of the fatality incidence of the disease
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:36 PM
Aug 2014

and should be understood as such rather than cowardice or weakness.

redwitch

(14,946 posts)
9. Mr. Redwitch has two herniated discs.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:02 PM
Aug 2014

His lack of mobility and the near constant pain make him depressed too. But his dr. prescribed something for the depression and I gave him an inversion table for Christmas and both things help. I hope you find some relief too!

I wish they could promise better results from surgery, he would go for it in a heartbeat!

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
13. Thanks redwitch. I'm glad he's getting some relief.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 07:55 PM
Aug 2014

I've tried the inversion tables and in practice they actually increase the pain. I have radial tears, so inversion pulls the tissue apart and pinches nerves. The best therapy I've found is aquatic exercise. The near weightlessness relieves the pressure on the discs without pulling them apart.

We live in hope for advanced surgery. I'd do it in a heartbeat too if there was something better than fusion.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. And we should not forget that persons with depression or bipolar do not live in a vaccum. We watch
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:11 PM
Aug 2014

news, hear about wars and death, etc. I don't think there is a person on DU who at some time is not depressed about the news despite the fact that they are not bipolar or clinically depressed. The world has become a very depressing place. There are so many triggers out there that can set us off. We need to recognize that everything that effects us is not just something related to the disease. On top of the disease, the world can push you over the brink.




Just wanted to add that I think the old DU is back - we are having caring discussions that seek to help and educate. Thank all of you.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
12. From someone who suffered with clinical depression
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:21 PM
Aug 2014

and has a chronic low grade depression, your OP is one of the best on the topic that I have read on DU.
I had the "just snap out of it" relatives who still have no concept of mental illness.

bluesbassman

(19,379 posts)
14. Thanks upaloopa.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:00 PM
Aug 2014

May your efforts at managing your condition continue to provide you relief and peace.

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