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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. People living in a delusional past
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:53 AM
Aug 2014

Pretty soon, they won't be able to do this. But I'll bet others will be forced to conserve first.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
2. Anyone want to bet the businessmen ( I won't call them farmers!)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 08:54 AM
Aug 2014

benefiting from cheap water in the desert vote the straight Republican ticket?



I can understand using irrigation water carefully for some crops - even winter produce - but alfalfa?

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
4. Not sure the utility of shipping alfalfa to China. ..
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:00 AM
Aug 2014

Having raised some calves from the bottle to the packer, the cost is almost not worth it, and that is driving 5 miles to buy alfalfa and hauling it myself. The only way livestock raising in the US is profitable is if one owns enough land to raise ones own feed. Even then much of the feed has to be raised on ground not suitable for crop production, or feeding the byproducts of crop production like corn stalks.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
5. It's using the empty shipping containers that are already going back to China.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:23 AM
Aug 2014

So the expense equation goes, "Is it cheaper to send my alfalfa to the Port of Los Angeles or Northern California?"

Port of LA is cheaper.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
6. I'm not seeing the problem. This is "free trade", just like you guys wanted.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:28 AM
Aug 2014

Similar to the recent Desani story.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
10. Jeopardy question: what do you call a country which ships agricultural products and
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:24 PM
Aug 2014

raw materials to another country, and receives finished goods in return?

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
13. Duuuuhh -- what is a colony ?
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:03 PM
Aug 2014

No, wait, that can't be right ! We're THE GREATEST COUNTRY THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN™!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
11. I agree, making money off the Chinese and then spending that money here.....
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:27 PM
Aug 2014

Sounds ok to me.

eppur_se_muova

(36,261 posts)
12. Alfalfa is a particularly thirsty crop ...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:00 PM
Aug 2014
Cadillac Desert is a great read. Also recommend Locust-- increased alfalfa farming in Western river bottoms may have driven the Rocky Mountain Locust to extinction.
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