New clashes break out in Kiev's Maidan Sqauare.

[another_liberal]

Isn't this what is bound to happen when a naïve government gives weapons and official status to Nazi-admiring fascist street fighters? In this case it seems Kiev is even employing them in a crowd control role! Oh well, it's not like no one tried to warn those now in power about the danger they were courting.

Maidan self-defence activists clash with fighters of Kiev-1 volunteer battalion on Independence Square in Kiev on August 7, 2014.(AFP Photo)

Police & activists clash on Maidan, tires burn anew in central Kiev

Activists and police have clashed in the Ukrainian capital’s center after communal workers tried to dismantle the camp. It follows a months-old conflict over the camp with the city administration. Law enforcement officials have been injured in the clashes with activists on the Kiev’s Independence square, according to the Interior Ministry press service.

It’s not known how many people were injured, ITAR-TASS reports. The majority of injuries were from stones thrown by protesters. The smoke from burning tires can be smelt all over the city center, witnesses say.

Earlier on Thursday, communal services were dismantling the barricades, and confiscated about 20 boxes containing bottles of flammable mixture. Law enforcement officials and Kiev authorities have been urging the activists to leave Maidan and free the seized buildings for months, but the activists have refused to do so. In July, Ukraine's Prosecutor General Vitaly Yarema urged the activists to leave Kiev’s Maidan and free seized buildings. Yarema underlined that the refusal to obey would entail criminal responsibility.

Kiev’s Independence Square has been the main hub of the popular uprising since last November. Around a thousand people were still on the square in July, according to Kiev’s Mayor Vitaly Klitschko. Protesters seized 19 buildings, including administrative offices and hotels, with almost 500 activists living there, according to the prosecutor general.

Read more, and see videos, at: http://rt.com/news/178612-maidan-clashes-police-activists/

[malaise]

1. Truth will out

even if the West shows as little as they can about the proceedings in Ukraine.

[another_liberal]

2. I can't see Western Europe supporting this civil war much longer . . .

With the exception of a few war hawk, conservative politicians and some high-ranking NATO Generals, that is.

[malaise]

3. It's not in their interest

Reverse sanctions will hurt Western Europe big time. Do you remember when Nuland said Fuck the EU and exposed the US role in this mess?

[another_liberal]

4. Yes, that was a stunning revelation indeed.

Though I have to admit that at the time I really didn't think she meant it literally. Live and learn.

[MohRokTah]

5. .

What's Infowars take on this story? Got a link to World Net Daily on it, too?

[another_liberal]

6. Sometimes the truth does actually hurt a little.

As the Zen Masters say, "Make room for the pain."

[MohRokTah]

7. Not a word of truth in the OP linked story. eom

[another_liberal]

9. The clashes are being reported in the Ukrainian press as well.

They are part of the public record, no matter how much you might wish to believe otherwise.

(see post #8 on this string)

[jakeXT]

8. Protesters thwart city government attempts to clear Maidan

Protesters have resisted the most serious attempt yet to clean up Maidan, or Independence Square, since the EuroMaidan Revolution ended with the ouster of the corrupt President Viktor Yanukovych on Feb. 22. Dozens of remaining demonstrators – perhaps more than 100 – set tires on fire on Kyiv's main square to protest the government's attempt to free the city's main road for traffic.

The square still has a tent city left over from the revolution. However, the protesters' space has gradually diminished as city officials have attempted to return the area to normalcy since the May 25 election of Petro Poroshenko as president and Vitali Klitschko as mayor. Many are who remain there are suspected of occupying the area after the popular uprising ended in late February. 

A part of Khreshchatyk Street was cleared off last month.

Klitschko is taking a harder line regarding the protesters and called on the city's police chief to defend the residents and communal worker. “The things that are going on there last time are criminal. Attacks, shootouts, explosions and taking over of businesses,” he was quoted as saying, according to his Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform website. “This is a total desecration of the Maidan to which the Ukrainian came in autumn.”

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/protesters-light-up-tires-on-maidan-as-city-government-attempts-to-clean-up-updates-359649.html

[another_liberal]

10. Even the Kiev Post admits this is happening . . .

Though they do choose to omit mention of the part played by Ultra-Nationalist, volunteer militia. Under the current conditions of fear and fascist repression, that omission may be quite understandable.

[jakeXT]

11. I wonder where Klitschko was when they threw Molotov cocktails

Klitschko is taking a harder line regarding the protesters and called on the city's police chief to defend the residents and communal worker. “The things that are going on there last time are criminal. Attacks, shootouts, explosions and taking over of businesses,” he was quoted as saying, according to his Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform website. “This is a total desecration of the Maidan to which the Ukrainian came in autumn.”

[another_liberal]

12. His gang needed the fire-bomb-throwers at that time . . .

The way Klitschko and his CIA handlers saw it then, the more violence and burning buildings the better. How else could they have fabricated a justification to overthrow the democratically elected government?

[Igel]

13. Yup.

But they also issued a general call for all the "fascists" (it would seem) to come and support them.

Of all the millions of ukrofascists, well, I guess they'll all in Slavyansk killing 3-year-olds.

This is one of those carry-over things that the government kept saying it would put an end to. You know, what many bill as a fascist government supported by fascists. That it directly contradicts the general tenor of RT doesn't matter. Suddenly there's a new direction that RT's nodding for the sake of PR, and all the bobble-heads are immediately set to nodding in agreement.

Also not that big a deal and about time. They found some weapons (some grenades, apparently suited for grenade launchers), some hunting rifles and a few handguns, plus some molotov. All told, for that group not so huge. They also--reports are--set their own tents on fire, with various rationales proffered. But ultimately the governmental not only have to deal with the russists that are scattered about but mostly concentrated in the East but the 2-3% of the fascists in the west. Right now the russists are doing a lot more killing, looting, gay-bashing, reporter-beating, press-closing, etc., etc. than those carrying the label of death and universal fear and pants-pooping, "fascist." Of course the russists, wanting as they all do to carry Putin's next babies, are good guys and to be adored and their littles toeses sucked for joy.

The international plane crash teams really have to get their work done. It's come to be in a strategic spot, and that area is effectively protecting the rebels.

One more bit: Did you see the latest theory on MH17? http://www.unn.com.ua/ru/news/1373410-na-18-lipnya-teroristi-ochikuvali-vtorgnennya-viysk-rf-v-nalivaychenko (It's in Ukrainian. There must be a Russian version someplace.) There are two Pervomaiskoe bergs in the Donbas. (This is true. May-Day was, like everything else Soviet--Red Partisan, Rosa Luxembourg, Lenin, Stalin, Beriya, etc., nice things to name streets, villages, and even children.) The Buk was sent to Pervomaiskoe, but they stopped at the wrong one because they weren't locals. You'd pretty much go through one to get to the other if you started across the Russian-Ukrainian border available to the resupply lines.

The first Pervomaiskoe was pretty much under the MH17 flight plath. The other was under the flight path of a Aeroflot plane, in the extreme west of rebel-held territory. Very close, in fact, to where all the Russian "proof" that was quickly issued that there were Ukrainian Buks in theatre put Ukrainian Buks, Buk chatter, etc. The claim is that all kinds of complaints about the Ukrainians ramped up by 7/17 and that intercepts show that the rebels anticipated Russian troops to show up en masse on 7/18. Which would have been triggered quickly by having "evidence" of Ukr Buks in exactly the right place at the right time, all the other complaints about the Ukrainians, plus having hundreds of dead Russians. It also shines new light on what are primarily Russian claims that the MH17 aircraft was diverted from its original course--if they did want to hide a planed downing of a plane, well, how could they give orders to down a plane that was moved at the last minute by Ukrainians from its original flight path?

As far as conspiracy theories go, it's a good one. It accounts for a lot of data while putting major support points exactly where there are gaps in the information. But it won't be picked up by CT lovers here because it has the wrong bias. The facts don't spin the right way, and the bobbly heads don't bobble equally well in all directions.