God Bless America

[randys1]

A. there is no god

B. if there was, why would he bless America and nobody else?

[onehandle]

1. It's not just God Bless Only America.

Regardless, it shouldn't be on license plates or moolah.

[Swede Atlanta]

7. Actually those that say that in word, on t-shirts, license plates, etc.

believe it is ONLY the U.S.

They believe in American exceptionalism which is true. We are exceptionally stupid. We elect stupid people to office. We are #1 in infant mortality rates for a developed nation. We are #1 in the world in terms of people in prison. We are #1 in terms of the number of guns, etc.

Trust me the ones who say God Bless America only mean one thing. God - smite all our enemies.

If they meant anything different they would have said God Bless this world including America.

[Jenoch]

9. What 'moolah' has God Bless America on it?

[onehandle]

10. In God We Trust.

Same diff.

[Jenoch]

11. I always thought words have meaning.

[el_bryanto]

2. Actually it turns out there is a God

and he blessed all lands.

Bryant

[randys1]

3. Well, while there is equal evidence for the existence of leprechauns and god, i like your idea

better than the alternative of the rightwing xtian morons who think only white american xtians are loved by god

[A HERETIC I AM]

5. Spoken with the authority of.....

WHAT...exactly?

[el_bryanto]

6. Exactly as much authority as the declaration there is no God.

I didn't bring it up though.

Bryant

[A HERETIC I AM]

12. Then Unicorns, Leprechauns, Faeries.....

Zeus, Apollo, Athena, Thor, Hercules and all the rest are real too.

You can't have it both ways.

[el_bryanto]

13. Actually I can have it anyway I like it. You see here in America we have something

called freedom of religion. Which means I'm allowed to believe as I like. As you are allowed to believe as you like - in any of those things or none of them.

Bryant

[A HERETIC I AM]

14. You're right. I should rephrase my first response to you;

Actually, as it turns out, God is a COMPLETELY mythical construct.

[el_bryanto]

15. No - he isn't. nt

[A HERETIC I AM]

16. LOL....'I know you are, but what am I?'

Ahhhhh...the eternal question.

"There is a god."


Yeah? Fucking prove it.


Luckily for me, I've had this conversation before, with people much better at it than you are. So, if nothing else, it bores the shit out of me. It is tedious, vapid and banal, and by putting it forward, so are you.

[el_bryanto]

17. That would hurt my feelings if I cared

Is it the official statement of DU that God doesn't exist? If so I haven't read it anywhere. My assumption was that this board was open to people of all different beliefs and that we had a religion forum for those who want to have these kinds of tedious discussions (and I do agree that they are a waste of time).

Why clutter of GD with unproveable assertions? You are as unlikely to disprove God to my satisfaction as I am to prove God to your satisfaction.

Bryant

[A HERETIC I AM]

18. You started it!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5301935

[el_bryanto]

19. what? I didn't start this thread. randys1 did

I admit I thought you were the one who had started it, though - so I apologize if I offended you.

Bryant

[A HERETIC I AM]

20. .......

[ChisolmTrailDem]

35. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you freely admit that

you believe in such things?

Why is it that the supernatural beings we were raised being brainwashed with are all accepted as hoaxes by the time we're adults, except for one?

[el_bryanto]

38. Freely admit? Should I be ashamed to be a believer?

I suppose so from your point of view.

Bryant

[Throd]

39. No you should not.

The main reason I am reluctant to identify myself as an atheist (which I have been all my life) is that too many of us are the same intolerant dicks we profess to hate so much.

I respect and accept religious people until they give me a reason not to.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

41. I think that's a sideways way of calling me a dick? For askkng a question in the face of a

very definitive declaration of a profoundly extraordinary claim.

Also. I'm not an athiest as you implied. I am an agnostic.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

40. Yes, freely admit. As in your right to freely practice religion.

Also. where did I say you should feel ashamed? What I did do is ask two questions, both of which you ignored. Instead you responded with your own questions and a supposition.

[el_bryanto]

43. OK well let's answer those questions.

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you freely admit that you believe in such things? I expect people to judge my comments based on the content of them; when belief isn't dragged out into DU to be insulted I generally try and make positive comments - that said, if memory serves you haven't found my other comments to be particularly good either, so it's possible you aren't going to take me seriously anyway. This is the question which caused me to wonder if you feel like I should hide my religion, i.e. be ashamed of it, as it presupposes that a believer shouldn't be taken seriously.

Why is it that the supernatural beings we were raised being brainwashed with are all accepted as hoaxes by the time we're adults, except for one? I assume you are referring to the Judeo Christian God here when you say "one," but in fact there are dozens of religions in the world if not hundreds many of which worship different Gods, and many of which have profound spiritual insights to share if one takes the time to study them.

Bryant

[LanternWaste]

28. As are national borders, nations, politics and economics.

"God is a COMPLETELY mythical construct..."


As are national borders, nations, politics and economics.

And while many people may deny believing they too exists, it would be much more difficult to deny not basing multiple decisions upon these imaginary constructs every day.

However, I do realize we often hold some imaginary constructs to a much stricter standard than other imaginary constructs.

[A HERETIC I AM]

30. There is a difference between imaginary and mythical

http://dictionary.reference.com

[Lordquinton]

32. when your primary argument is that it is not illegal

To hold your position, I would suggest some soul searching to see if there is any actual substance there.

[el_bryanto]

33. That's not my actual argument

That's just as much of my actual argument as I'm willing to drag out into General Discussion.

Bryant

[JEB]

4. A vengeful god would bless a greedy ruthless country.

[PowerToThePeople]

8. The United States of Capitalist Pig.

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Here is your GOD

[longship]

21. One has to have Kate Smith in this thread.

An absolutely horrible song. Why would anybody want to replace Take Me Out to the Ballgame with that utter rubbish?

[Octafish]

22. Maybe God can bless more than one place at one time.

Or, maybe God is everywhere and everyone.

Who knows?

I may be a coward, but I err on the side of caution and hope for the best.

[napkinz]

23. ...

[LanternWaste]

24. Much as when I tell a friend "I hope you make it" directly implies I hope no else does...?

Much as when I tell a friend "I hope you make it" directly implies I hope no else does...?

[Nye Bevan]

25. If you were really sure of (A) you wouldn't have bothered with (B) (nt)

[randys1]

37. LOL

[hrmjustin]

26. Who said God does not bless other nations?

[Boom Sound 416]

27. Oy vey

[GeorgeGist]

29. C. if there was, why would it take orders?

[Inkfreak]

31. Ok, then. Thanks for your thoughts. (nt)

[randys1]

34. Now that THAT is settled...LOL

[Dreamer Tatum]

36. Finally, someone to doubt God's existence on DU.

was wondering when someone would summon the guts to have such a controversial take.

You should have your own TV show.

[LostOne4Ever]

42. Finally, someone to call out an atheist for professing their nonbelief on DU

was wondering when someone who is freely able to profess their religious beliefs in real life without any negative ramifications would summon the guts to call out these atheist for doing what theists do every single day in one of the few places where we can do so without fear of losing friends, getting disowned by family, or risking our careers.

You should have your own TV show.