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Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:01 AM

Nasa scientist: climate change is a moral issue on a par with slavery

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/apr/06/nasa-scientist-climate-change
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Averting the worst consequences of human-induced climate change is a "great moral issue" on a par with slavery, according to the leading Nasa climate scientist Prof Jim Hansen.

He argues that storing up expensive and destructive consequences for society in future is an "injustice of one generation to others".

"The situation we're creating for young people and future generations is that we're handing them a climate system which is potentially out of their control," he said. "We're in an emergency: you can see what's on the horizon over the next few decades with the effects it will have on ecosystems, sea level and species extinction."

Now 70, Hansen is regarded as one of the most influential figures in climate science; the creator of one of the first global climate models, his pioneering role in warning about global warming is frequently cited by climate campaigners such as former US vice president Al Gore and in earlier science prizes, including the $1m Dan David prize. He has been arrested more than once for his role in protests against coal energy.

Hansen will argue in his lecture that current generations have an over-riding moral duty to their children and grandchildren to take immediate action. Describing this as an issue of inter-generational justice on a par with ending slavery, Hansen said: "Our parents didn't know that they were causing a problem for future generations but we can only pretend we don't know because the science is now crystal clear.

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Reply Nasa scientist: climate change is a moral issue on a par with slavery (Original post)
malaise Apr 2012 OP
xchrom Apr 2012 #1
lunatica Apr 2012 #2
malaise Apr 2012 #3
Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #15
Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #4
randome Apr 2012 #14
intheflow Apr 2012 #5
txlibdem Apr 2012 #6
libtodeath Apr 2012 #7
Gibby Apr 2012 #8
malaise Apr 2012 #9
Gibby Apr 2012 #12
izquierdista Apr 2012 #10
malaise Apr 2012 #11
JAbuchan08 Apr 2012 #13
Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #16
Gregorian Apr 2012 #17
jwirr Apr 2012 #18
malaise Apr 2012 #20
indepat Apr 2012 #19
raouldukelives Apr 2012 #21

Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:05 AM

1. Du rec. Nt

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:06 AM

2. I totally understand his frustration

I really believed climate change would be humanities rallying cry for a higher consciousness regarding our planet and ourselves.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:08 AM

3. I'm always fascinated that ReTHUGS discuss the debt being left for their grandchildren

(after their beloved Bush ran up the debt) while deliberately ignoring the state of the planet

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:26 AM

15. they don't really believe it's happening.

I know many otherwise smart caring people who simply don't believe climate change is happening in any major way, any differently from other times in earth's 6,000 year history.

People are afraid of feeling afraid & helpless, it's easier for them to stay in denial, not understanding the urgency of acting. And as long as there's a chorus of denialists, they feel supported.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:14 AM

4. +1

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:57 AM

14. It may still be.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:47 AM

5. Yes, yes, yes!!!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:52 AM

6. We're leaving them so many problems that the current system cannot tackle

They'll have to be smarter than us and wiser, too.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 08:59 AM

7. What the privilege class in this country has done for centuries is savage and unforgivable

will we ever learn and get beyond that to a better humanity.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:00 AM

8. Republicans Embrace Immorality

 

The right-wing luvs them their own corporately funded FAIL fantasy of climate change denial, and their own foul psychic squirrel-hole of hate, fear, and racism (key elements of the slavery mentality).

Never mind the Uber Evil right-wing Republican love and embrace of Torture -- a human perversion so evil and foul it is remembered in deep sorrow this very day every year: the Dark Day of the Torture of The Christ with Scourging and Crucifixion.

Republicans really need to look themselves in the mirror.

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Response to Gibby (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:07 AM

9. The problem is that they never see themselves

They project big time.

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:25 AM

12. They can't handle the truth about the darkness in their own souls

 

If you can't face the truth of your own darkness, then you never conquer. Instead it rules you in ways both subtle and gross. This is what we see with so many Republicans.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:21 AM

10. This is going to get a rise out of the fundies

 

Their Bible already says slavery is just peachy; next they will find verses justifying climate change.

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Response to izquierdista (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 09:24 AM

11. Remember they already have dominion over the earth and seas

That means they have permission to destroy whatever they choose.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 10:55 AM

13. It's not too different either when you think about it

rich capitalists exploiting poor brown people with near complete disregard for their well being.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 11:34 AM

16. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, malaise.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:06 PM

17. I have been saying that it's a personal responsibility.

But also that it's foundations are based in population.

Sooner or later people will be realizing this. But until then it's a threatening idea. Because it is not the corporations, not the government. Although they could be vocal about us all going in a different direction. It's us. Just like democracy is us. Electric cars is only an incremental fractional change in CO2 output. Population is driving all of this.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 01:12 PM

18. And all we need to do to see the truth of this is to look at the Horn of Africa. There are horrible

results from this. For those deniers who think God would not let this happen - remember actions (greed) has consequences. It is a moral issue.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:12 PM

20. IF we could abandon all these gods we might actually

mature and become responsible stewards of planet earth

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:09 PM

19. Corporate greed must be allowed to run amok notwithstanding the likely, if not inevitable,

destruction of the earth's ability to sustain life for billions of people a few years or decades down the road. The Congress must make sure the bidness of America is bidness with everything else just having to take care of itself.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:41 PM

21. If only we could get more than a handful to truly care.

The rest just pay it lip service and continue working for, supporting & investing in the corporations leading us all over the edge.

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