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fireflysky46

(224 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:46 AM Jul 2014

Russian nationalist thinker Dugin search war with Ukraine

Last edited Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

A prominent Russian ultra-nationalist philosopher has told BBC News that war between Russia and Ukraine "is inevitable" and has called on President Vladimir Putin to intervene militarily in eastern Ukraine "to save Russia's moral authority".

Alexander Dugin is the founder of Russia's Eurasian movement. His views are believed to be popular among the hawkish Russian elite. Until recently, he was also a professor at Moscow State University, but he says his current status with the university is unclear. His views have not changed, he says, but attitudes towards his views among those in power may be shifting.

He has been labelled the brains behind President Putin's wildly popular annexation of Crimea.

The next step, he proclaims, is military intervention in eastern Ukraine, which he regularly calls Novorossiya (New Russia). It is a name that has also been used by President Putin.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28229785

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Russian nationalist thinker Dugin search war with Ukraine (Original Post) fireflysky46 Jul 2014 OP
Oh good, glad to see there's sane people running the show over there. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #1
Sadly for that fascist, Putin has already geek tragedy Jul 2014 #2
This needs a kick, Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #3
That Is How You Tell a Leftist Nowadays, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #5
I haven't seen any that actually come out in support of Le Pen or Jobbik, Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #6
I Have Seen 'They're Right About This Or That At Least' Comments, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2014 #7
Oh yes ! Me too sir, thanks for mention ! Nt fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #8
I'll have to pay more attention. Thx. n/t Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #11
In contact ? fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #10
something tells me the pro Rus-Si-A du'ers won't show up to this thread snooper2 Jul 2014 #4
+1 why should they ? They approve. Nt fireflysky46 Jul 2014 #9
Dugin's essays are popular amongst the Russian National Unity folks. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2014 #12
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Sadly for that fascist, Putin has already
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:52 AM
Jul 2014

tucked his tail 'tween his legs out of fear of a few pen strokes from President Obama and the EU.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
3. This needs a kick,
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:47 AM
Jul 2014

so it doesn't get forgotten just exactly what the nature of Putin's regime actually is. It should be noted carefully that this fascist scum is in constant contact with the separatists. It should also be noted, again, that Putin and his United Russia party firmly support Marine Le Pen, Jobbik, and all the rest of the European far right.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
5. That Is How You Tell a Leftist Nowadays, Sir
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jul 2014

Unreserved support for fascism in Russia, and for that matter, for fascists opposing the European Union, is frequently presented here as de rigueur for leftists today....

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
6. I haven't seen any that actually come out in support of Le Pen or Jobbik,
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jul 2014

I always thought these wonderful people just dodged the question. Did I miss something?

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
7. I Have Seen 'They're Right About This Or That At Least' Comments, Sir
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jul 2014

And in any case, the overlap of position is obvious in several areas.

The hard left has never scrupled at allying with the hard right against the center-left.

 

fireflysky46

(224 posts)
10. In contact ?
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:28 PM
Jul 2014

They have also abduct, in Ukraine, an Ukrainian pilot who will be judge in Russia...that's a real joke of Kremlin Bob.

After having kidnap some European's officials ...

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
12. Dugin's essays are popular amongst the Russian National Unity folks.
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jul 2014

What is Russian National Unity? It's a fascist, arguably neo-Nazi paramilitary organization with a Russian ultranationalistic bent.

And who was a member of Russian National Unity? Pavel Gubarev, currently the self-proclaimed "People's Governor of Donetsk" and one of the key leader of the armed separatists.

That's right. For all those people claiming that the armed seperatists in east Ukraine are simply people who don't want to be ruled by illegitimate neo-Nazi putschists, they are currently being led by a....you guessed it....illegitimate neo-Nazi putschist.

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