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[Scuba]

1. I can't imagine why anyone would believe our media would be biased.

[lostincalifornia]

2. Thank-you. This is at least as bad as what I have read about the McCarthy era

[malaise]

7. Did you notice that Meet the Press is now sponsored by

Morgan Stanley

[jwirr]

19. They pretty much rule our news sources and they are out to make it hard to for the other source

internet - with net neutrality.

[Jefferson23]

30. +1, that is the story you won't see on any MSM that I am aware of...will not happen. n/t

[Enthusiast]

35. Just wait until they get the internet under control.

[ProSense]

3. The goal of the MSM

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"The MSM is absolute garbage. 90% of them are part of the right wing echo chamber. This is the result of their inept and intentional half ass reporting, dealing with a nation of sheep "

...is to keep spinning Obama as unpopular to create the impression that he's incompetent. From the Yahoo article:

And the foreign-policy approval rating for Obama might actually be artificially high. The poll was conducted before the crisis in Iraq, a situation for which Obama has been roundly criticized, bubbled up and grabbed international attention.

Obama's handling of international events have earned him criticism over the past few months — from the crisis in Ukraine to his administration's decision to execute a prisoner swap to free U.S. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl in exchange for five Taliban-affiliated prisoners from the Guantanamo Bay military prison.

According to the poll, 44% of respondents said the administration should not have made the exchange, compared with 30% who supported it.

Really? So they're anticipating his numbers to be negatively impacted by his decision to not go into Iraq, and claim most American disapprove of saving an American? Is the implication that Americans prefer a Republican foreign policy, war all the time?

Poll Finds the American People Strongly Side With Obama On Not Sending Troops To Iraq

By: Jason Easleymore from Jason Easley

A new poll released to day by PPP found that by a nearly two to one margin (54%-28%), the American people are strongly siding with President Obama’s decision not to have sent combat troops back into Iraq.

There are two interesting points in the PPP poll:

-Only 16% of Americans would support sending combat troops to help deal with the crisis in Iraq, compared to 74% who are opposed. There’s a bipartisan consensus on that issue with with Republicans (28/57), Democrats (10/86), and independents (9/86) all strongly opposed to sending combat troops.

<...>

-Asked specifically whose vision they agreed with more about having US troops in Iraq between Obama (no troops under any circumstances) and John McCain (troops should have remained in Iraq after 2011), voters side with Obama by a 54/28 spread. In addition to Democrats strongly siding with Obama’s perspective, independents (53/28) and Republicans (49/30) do as well.

People aren’t buying what the Republicans are selling on Iraq. Republicans are blaming the violence on withdrawal of American troops, but 67% of Americans think the conflict is rooted in centuries of internal conflict that was exacerbated by the Bush administration’s decision to invade Iraq. Americans overwhelmingly support providing intelligence to the Iraqi government (56%-30%), and a major international diplomatic effort (52%-30%) to stabilize Iraq.

It turns out that the American people aren’t about to get fooled again by the same lies that got the country into Iraq in the first place. The Republican Party is playing a politically dangerous game by trying to blame President Obama for the wave of violence in Iraq. Instead of blaming Obama, the Republican attacks are reminding the American people that it was the GOP who lied and got the nation into a war of choice.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/06/17/poll-finds-american-people-strongly-side-obama-sending-troops-iraq.html

More the Yahoo piece:

•When asked their predictions on the rest of Obama's term in office, 54% said they thought he "cannot lead and get the job done," compared with only 42% who said the opposite.

LOL! Right, that's why Diaper Vitter is trying to convice people he would expand Medicaid if only the people of Louisiana would elect him Governor. Notice the MSM isn't reporting 24/7 on the ass kicking Republicans are taking on Obamacare?

President Obama is serving up a can of STFU to the Republicans and their MSM shills.

"Obama effectively painted a bull’s eye, inviting Republican apoplexy. And yet, crickets. "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025106329#post10

It's Just Not Fair! Damn Obama!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025113605

Krugman: 'Mr. Obama is looking like a very consequential president indeed'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025104323

And he's not done.

Sen. Warren applauds Obama's executive order on student loans, says he needs more help from Congress
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025071586

Obama to create largest marine protected area ever, because bigger is better
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025113914

Despite the MSM polling, which has shown this President receiving low marks for years, he still won re-election by a landslide and continues to wow people wherever he goes.

Obama gets standing ovations at UC Irvine commencement

His remarks were frequently met with boisterous applause and whistles, and several standing ovations.

http://www.latimes.com/local/orangecounty/la-me-0615-obama-uc-irvine-20140615-story.html

President and First Lady's visit to the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025093774

I look forward to his NBC/WSJ poll numbers dropping into Bush territory and then Cheney's. After all, this is the MSM's goal.

[lostincalifornia]

4. I agree, and Maddow pretty much pointed this out on her show last night

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/maddow-iraq-media-coverage_n_5506739.html

[ProSense]

5. Yup, the warmonger circus is making the rounds. n/t

[proverbialwisdom]

15. Thank you for that phenomenal debunking.

MUST READ: http://aufc.3cdn.net/e18f2bbe97bb0e038f_7rm6bhuj1.pdf
Source: http://www.politicususa.com/2014/06/17/poll-finds-american-people-strongly-side-obama-sending-troops-iraq.html

[ProSense]

22. Thanks. n/t

[malaise]

6. More like 95%

The producers run the shows on behalf of the corporations and big donors.
That every single program host has not called them on the fact that Bush signed the SOFA tells us everything we need to know.

The sad truth is the vast majority of them take their cue from Roger Ailes at Fox.

[lostincalifornia]

11. It is really frustrating and infuriating

[ProSense]

8. LOL!

Chuck Todd: Polling Shows Obama's 'Presidency Is Over' (VIDEO)
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/chuck-todd-nbc-wsj-poll-obama-presidency-is-over

This comment nails it:

There's that liberal media at it again, Chuck Todd also declared Mitt Romney won the election and Obamacare is repealed

http://forums.talkingpointsmemo.com/t/discussion/5639/2

[LibDemAlways]

9. What's truly baffling is how they continually peddle

anti-Dem shit and yet people are still convinced that the media is "liberal." Absolutely no evidence to support it. With the exception of a few MSNBC hosts, it's a constant stream of rightwing propaganda on every "mainstream" outlet.

[Fred Sanders]

12. Not just propaganda, fluff and entertainment pieces and distractions and half truths. It is a con

game they play, the homogeneity of American media would be the envy of many dictators.

[LibDemAlways]

18. i know. Nightly "News" is a few minutes of anti-Dem

spin on Obama and/or the Dems in Congress, followed by evergreen feel good filler, with frequent breaks for commercials. Then, to add insult to injury, they follow this pathetic "News" show with a solid hour of meaningless entertainment crap. No wonder the average American is an uninformed dumbass. It's by design.

[Fred Sanders]

10. And look how Clinton plays to this controlling media, what are you going to do if you do not kiss

the ring of corporate media?

[Iliyah]

13. Ding ding ding

Right Wing polling pretty much.

I'll go with the Democratic party's polling system which is more in tune because their internal polling seems more competent.

[Liberalagogo]

14. Yahoo

has been the new Red State for quite some time. I left there a LONG time ago.

[gvstn]

26. Yahoo really is pathetic.

They spin every "news" story to the right whenever possible. Moat of their "news" commentary comes from Forbes, WSJ or BusinessInsider or the MotleyFool.

During the Obamacare website launch and the subsequent six months 1/3 of their "news" front page were negative spins on any ACA statistics coming through. Beyond any coincidence--pathetic.

[nolabels]

16. So what is new anyway?

Eight or ten years ago i thought it couldn't get any worse with this thing they call MSM and i would report that it hasn't. They have just become a lot less inventive and way more belligerent. It's kind of obvious why there are now thousands of tv channels and tens of thousands of radio stations you can access anytime.

I haven't really thought about MSM much lately and i also don't see MSM changing much anytime soon but i do know when something becomes bound up and constipated, it makes a big mess when it comes loose.

[valerief]

17. The ruling elite who own the ignorami also own the airwaves. nt

[davekriss]

20. Manufacturing Consent...Necessary Illusions

^^^Noam Chomsky books. (And he accurately dissected the media/propaganda machine BEFORE the mass consolidation of all major media in the controlling hands of 6 mega-corporations.)

[JoeyT]

21. By all means, news agency,

tell me more about what the guy that got the secret rendition, indefinite detention, and torture balls rolling and his dipshit daughter think of freedom.

[nyabingi]

23. If you spend any time watching foreign-based

news sources like RT (which I know everyone here hates), China's CCTV and Al Jazeera America, you'll immediately notice the lack of a saturation of the advertisements on which American broadcast television builds shows around.

These channels actually have correspondents around the world who actually talk to the people in these countries, interview them on camera, put their names on the screen and tell who they are, and generally provide at lot more firsthand information on whatever the situation is than any American, corporate-owned new outlet.

Why anyone even watches CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. is beyond me...

[1Greensix]

24. CIA director Bill Casey concurs with you

Former head of the CIA, William Casey, was quoted as saying every single news person of any national stature was ON THE CIA PAYROLL. I seriously doubt if he was lying, or that percentage has changed with the passing of time. Is it any wonder why most Americans don't watch any news program at all? One network, or newspaper, just spews the same lies as the next. And the lies are always in the "best interest of the nation", or at least that's what is told to us after the real truth comes out. WE were just too stupid to understand facts and truth, when the government knew we would be happier with lies and propaganda. Just look at the WMD lies from Iraq. WE were told time and again that Iraq had WMD's, but we were lied to by the politicians and news organizations who benefited from those lies.

[Oldtimeralso]

25. This Is The New Golden Rule

He who has the gold makes the rule!
We are not the 1% with the gold.

[factsarenotfair]

27. I couldn't believe NBC's Today Show this morning.

The anti-Obama spin was breathtaking. They put the quote from Cheney on the screen like it was the most important utterance of any human in the entire world on this day in history. The rest, with Chuck Todd and Andrea Mitchell, was just as bad but slightly more subtle. I don't know why I continue to be shocked after all these years of "MSM" propaganda, but I am.

[Fred Sanders]

28. This type of hateathon and deflection paves the way to corporate rule and invisible fascism.

[LLD]

33. Morning Joe told me the day is gone on TV at least until Ed comes on.

Obama sticks his head above water (Benghazi capture), bash him good the next day to bring him down again.

[spanone]

44. the today show is news comedy....news lite....i cannot & will not watch

[spanone]

29. the media creates that poll by slamming the President 24/7 - 365 days a year

[bradla]

31. The media is at its worst right now

In addition, we just do not see very many democrats backing the president on tv. It is just endless republicans bashing the president. I personally haver never seen anything like this in my lifetime. It is astounding.

[Boomerproud]

39. The silence of the dems is as breathtaking as the fire-breathing RePugs is predictable.

Welcome to DU. It isn't always a safe place, but for now it's saner that the rest of cyberspace.

[factsarenotfair]

40. The National Enquirer even has an Anti-Obama cover story about the Bergdahl trade!

Michelle: "Whose Side are Your On?
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/mad-michelle-more-fed-idiot-prez

They also have a "exclusive" about impeachment!
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-inside-obama-impeachment-furor

I haven't been keeping measurements, but it does seem worse than ever.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. And the little Indy media is attacked

[Enthusiast]

34. The media has never been so bad.

Even the "liberal channel", MSNBC, got rid of Phil Donahue as soon as he refused to go along with the Iraq War propaganda. The media has only gotten worse since then.

[Rex]

36. One reason I got rid of my TVEE...blood pressure is great now!

I have the WWW...why would I waste time with self-absorbed asshole millionaires and their shitty opinions? I don't even consider the M$M a news apparatus...more like a commercial apparatus.

[Cha]

37. Ya think?! I haven't watched or read since the day after the elections in

the elections in 2002! I've seen though that they've only gotten exponentially Worse through DU and other sites.

thanks for your post, lostincalif

[Zorra]

38. Yahoo seems to be totally catering to the walking dead these days. nt

[lostincalifornia]

41. They have been doing that for some time now

[MaggieD]

43. Agreed 100%

They create the narrative, then poll people to confirm they have swallowed the narrative they created. Then tell us it must be correct because that's what the polls day. It's all bullshit.